Dana White on UFC Fighter Pay: ‘The Guys That Are Complaining Don’t Matter’

The hot topic of the moment in mixed martial arts, fighter pay, got a little hotter Thursday when fired-up UFC president Dana White sat down to discuss the topic with the media following the UFC 162 pre-fight press conference. Many feel that for a comp…

The hot topic of the moment in mixed martial arts, fighter pay, got a little hotter Thursday when fired-up UFC president Dana White sat down to discuss the topic with the media following the UFC 162 pre-fight press conference.

Many feel that for a company allegedly worth as much as it claims, the UFC is underpaying the majority of its athletes. In a 2011 story in the New York Times, UFC CEO Lorenzo Fertitta said, “I feel pretty comfortable saying we’re the most valuable sports franchise on the planet, more than Manchester United, more than the New York Yankees, more than the Dallas Cowboys.”

Forbes recently put Manchester United’s worth at $2.23 billion, the Yankees at $1.85 billion and the Cowboys at the same value.

The UFC is a privately held company and it doesn’t disclose financials, so it’s hard to tell if Fertitta’s statement is accurate. 

One way White said the UFC could change the pay scale is to get rid of fighter bonuses.

“It wasn’t just the fight of the night bonuses, it was all bonuses. There are a lot of bonuses that fly around this company, and the reality is that the bonuses that are given are bonuses that are deserved,” White said. 

White then blasted those that he sees as complainers:

The guys that are complaining about this are the guys that don’t matter. That might sound [expletive] mean and harsh and ‘Why would nobody matter, everybody matters.’ We’re in a society now where everyone should win a trophy. No, everybody shouldn’t win a [expletive] trophy. The guys who stand out and the guys who deserve bonuses, the guys that make it exciting, and the guys that rise to the top are the guys that deserve the money.

White proceeded to point to two fighters he feels the system has really worked for, Joe Lauzon and Sam Stout. Fighters that White feels fans want to see and make a good living in the middle of the pack, delivering the type of exciting action that benefits them via bonuses. He had some harsh words for those that do not fit that description:

If you’re not that guy, and boo [expletive] hoo, you don’t matter. I’m sure that [expletive] sucks, and I’m sure that hurts. I’m sure you want to scream that from the rooftops. ‘I’m pissed, and this isn’t fair, and this isn’t right.’ This is [expletive] life, dude, get ready, because every day life is standing right there to kick you in the [expletive] face and you better be ready to do something about it.

White’s speech, while interesting, missed the point. White took the question of fighter pay and made it about the bonus aspect of the UFC pay structure. No one is saying that they aren’t thankful for the bonuses, but they are saying the base pay is low, a subject that was not addressed.

By threatening to remove bonuses, White is looking to create a rift between the fighters. As someone who has sat on both sides of the table during collective-bargaining sessions, I can tell you that White’s statement on removing the bonuses is one of the oldest tricks in the book from the management side. There’s always the implication (or is that a threat?) that a certain benefit will disappear for all when higher wages are sought. In this case, that threat is the removal of the bonus program.  

Every sport has gone through this growth period, where the ink turns from red to very, very black.  At that point, the owners have been forced to loosen the purse strings a bit. Most of the time, it was done very reluctantly through collective bargaining. The NHL is the most recent example of this growth. Between the 1984-85 and 2010-11 seasons, the average player salary grew from $149,000 to $1.93 million.

No one is saying the UFC salaries should reflect those of the NHL, NFL or MLB, or that the fighters will unionize, but for what the promotion asks of these fighters, the salaries do need to increase. This has zero to do with bonuses, and everything to do with base pay.

The pay issue is not going away for the UFC, and it will be interesting to see how the promotion handles things.  Putting down the fighters and trying to create tension between the haves and have-nots in the UFC isn’t the solution.

When you keep telling everyone that will listen that the promotion you represent is bigger than the NFL, well, don’t be surprised when the fighters hear that and wonder when they will get their share of that growing pie.

 

*All quotes obtained firsthand by Bleacher Report unless otherwise noted.

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Vitor Belfort Not Likely to Receive Another Shot at Anderson Silva for the Title

UFC middleweight Vitor Belfort is gunning for a title shot, but it seems like his waiting game will continue so long as Anderson Silva is sitting on the throne as champion. Belfort has looked ultra impressive lately with back-to-back head-kick knockout…

UFC middleweight Vitor Belfort is gunning for a title shot, but it seems like his waiting game will continue so long as Anderson Silva is sitting on the throne as champion.

Belfort has looked ultra impressive lately with back-to-back head-kick knockout victories over former Strikeforce champion Luke Rockhold and perennial UFC contender Michael Bisping.

The wins have put Belfort back near the top of the middleweight division rankings, and he said recently on Twitter how he was hoping to score the winner of the UFC 162 main event between Silva and Chris Weidman.

The only problem is if Silva is victorious on Saturday night, convincing him to face Belfort for a second time won’t be an easy task for White or the UFC if they even tried to make the fight happen.

Silva already bested Belfort at UFC 126 in 2011 with one of the most memorable knockouts in MMA history.

Because of that moment and Silva’s time in the sport dwindling as he approaches 40 years of age before too long, it’s going to be a hard sell for White to put the rematch together.

“The hard position that Vitor‘s in when you talk about a rematch with him, it’s like (Anderson) went out and kicked him in the face in the first 60 seconds in one of the most devastating knockouts of all time,” White explained when speaking to the media on Thursday. “So when you go back to Anderson Silva, who’s in the twilight of his career, and you say to a guy like Anderson ‘hey what about Vitor?’ ‘I annihilated Vitor, I made it look like Vitor wasn’t even a fighter, we shouldn’t have been fighting or whatever, I’ve got other fights, I want to fight other people and you talk about his legacy.’ Those are tough fights to make.”

Belfort‘s saving grace wouldn’t even be a Weidman victory, because White has already stated that if Silva loses his belt at UFC 162, he will be granted an immediate rematch for the title.

White wouldn’t completely shut the door on Belfort getting a rematch against Silva, but the opening to make it a reality seems awfully slim, at least right now.

“I’m not saying that Vitor couldn’t get the next shot, or couldn’t get a shot soon, but if you’re Anderson Silva you’re looking for another challenge,” White said.  “It would be a hard argument. 

“You could make a better argument that Dan Henderson should get the next shot. Yeah, he hasn’t looked impressively and he hasn’t won, but (Anderson) didn’t beat him as bad as he did Vitor.”

Damon Martin is a Featured Columnist for Bleacher Report and all quotes were obtained firsthand unless otherwise noted

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With Matt Serra Unavailable, Chris Weidman’s Father to Corner Him at UFC 162

Due to medical issues and the birth of his third daughter, Matt Serra won’t be able to corner his star pupil, Chris Weidman, in the UFC 162 headliner against Anderson Silva (via MMA Fighting). However, “The All-American” saw the situation as a ble…

Due to medical issues and the birth of his third daughter, Matt Serra won’t be able to corner his star pupil, Chris Weidman, in the UFC 162 headliner against Anderson Silva (via MMA Fighting). 

However, “The All-American” saw the situation as a blessing in disguise, since his father, Charlie Weidman, will now be able to corner his son for the biggest fight of his life. 

Weidman discussed the matter at length with ESPN

“Having my dad out there brings another dynamic,” Weidman told Franklin McNeil. “He’s real spiritual. It’s important for me to be spiritual, in the right place. He’ll pray for me before I go out. And that’s a huge part of me having an advantage going against Anderson Silva. [My father] has been driving me to wrestling camps and every match that I’ve had growing up, since second grade — sitting in the stands. He’s never been in my corner, even for wrestling. This is his first time .. “He’s my biggest fan. This is a great thing for him, too. It’s like a lifetime dream; he’s happy.” 

The undefeated prospect looks to bring his record to 10-0 against Silva, widely recognized as the greatest MMA fighter of all time. 

The pound-for-pound great is 16-0 inside the Octagon with 14 finishes, and has faced few challenges in that span outside of his two encounters with American rival Chael Sonnen

However, Weidman‘s elite blend of wrestling and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu could give “The Spider” a tough challenge on Saturday night at the MGM Grand Garden Arena.

Serra, a former UFC welterweight champ, spoke with ESPN as well, expressing his belief that Weidman has everyone he needs in his corner for UFC 162. 

“I feel very confident in Chris for this fight,” Serra said. “He’s got all the guys in his corner: Ray Longo for striking, John Danaher for the ground, jiu-jitsu, and I think it’s nice that he got his father in there. It might be more important [having Charlie Weidman] than having me there right now. It will mean more for him, his spirit. It’s a beautiful thing, having his father in the corner.” 

“The Terror” put New York’s Serra-Longo Fight Team on the map when he shocked the world by capturing the welterweight strap from Georges St-Pierre at UFC 69 in April 2007. 

Will Weidman be able to pull off a similar feat by stopping Silva’s reign atop the middleweight division this weekend?

 

John Heinis is a Featured Columnist for Bleacher Report. He is also the MMA Editor for eDraft.com and contributes MMA videos to The Young Turks Sports Show.  

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Dana White: GSP Isn’t Interested in Fight with Anderson Silva ‘That’s a Fact’

The talk of a superfight between UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva and welterweight champion Georges St-Pierre has been a fantasy fight for fans for several years now, but it appears at least one of them isn’t very interested in it actually hap…

The talk of a superfight between UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva and welterweight champion Georges St-Pierre has been a fantasy fight for fans for several years now, but it appears at least one of them isn’t very interested in it actually happening.

UFC president Dana White has stated in the past that he believed both Silva and St-Pierre were on board for the fight, it was always just a matter of the timing working out to make it a reality.

Lately, however, White isn’t seeing that same kind of enthusiasm out of St-Pierre.

Leading up to UFC 162, when Silva faces current top middleweight contender Chris Weidman, St-Pierre has stated time and again that he believes the champion will lose and get finished by the challenger.

“Georges St-Pierre would not even think about this fight (against Anderson Silva) because (Chris Weidman) is going to win, according to Georges St-Pierre,” White stated when speaking to the media on Thursday.

The real question then becomes, were those St-Pierre’s genuine thoughts on the fight or a bit of wishful thinking on the part of the UFC’s top welterweight fighter?

St-Pierre has never openly stated that he actually wanted to face Silva in a superfight no matter how many times the question has been asked.  His most recent declaration in support of Weidman speaks volumes about the perception that he has no interest in ever challenging the fighter universally recognized as the greatest of all time.

“There’s no doubt about it.  That’s a fact,” White said when asked if it seems St-Pierre isn’t interested in a fight with Silva.  “If that was the case, he’d say f—k Weidman, I’ll take that fight, I want that fight, I really think Weidman‘s going to beat him, (but) I don’t want Weidman to have that fight.  I want to be the guy to beat him.”

White says there’s no ill will towards St-Pierre if he opts not to take the fight with Silva.  Superfights only happen when both parties are willing and want the matchup to happen, and right now it seems St-Pierre isn’t interested.

“At the end of the day he weighs 170 pounds,” White said about St-Pierre.  “If he weighed 185 pounds and felt that way, I’d be real pissed.”

The one part of the scenario that White doesn’t quite understand with St-Pierre is how he chose to take a fight at welterweight against a fighter like Johny Hendricks, who could very well end his reign as champion, as opposed to a huge payday and legacy fight against a legend like Silva.

“What’s crazy to me is GSP opted to take a very dangerous fight at 170, without trying to take a dangerous fight at 185,” White stated.

St-Pierre won’t return to action until November when he faces Hendricks for the UFC welterweight title. Any talk about him entering a superfight will have to be shelved until at least after that bout takes place.

No matter what St-Pierre is willing to say, White at least knows one of his champions are on board for the fight to take place.

“Anderson Silva wants to fight a superfight, either way,” White said in closing.

Damon Martin is a Featured Columnist for Bleacher Report and all quotes were obtained firsthand unless otherwise noted.

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UFC 162 Live Streaming of Anderson Silva vs Chris Weidman Fight Card Weigh-In

Anderson Silva will put his UFC middleweight title on the line against Chris Weidman on Saturday, July 6. Also at stake in UFC 162’s main event will be Silva’s perfect 16-0 UFC record and his run of 10 consecutive UFC title defenses. As for…

Anderson Silva will put his UFC middleweight title on the line against Chris Weidman on Saturday, July 6. Also at stake in UFC 162’s main event will be Silva’s perfect 16-0 UFC record and his run of 10 consecutive UFC title defenses. As for the challenger, in addition to looking to dethrone the champion, he will be trying to protect his perfect 9-0 professional record.

The evening’s co-main event will see Frankie Edgar looking to hold on to his spot near the top of the UFC’s featherweight division. Edgar’s opponent, Charles Oliveira, will look to use a win over Edgar to launch himself into the top ten in the division.

The other three fights on the main card could also have an effect on the rankings in the featherweight and middleweight divisions.

UFC 162 will feature 11 fights total. The card will kick off on Saturday at 7 p.m. ET with the Facebook prelims. Before that can occur, all fighters will have to step on the scales.

The weigh-ins for the event will begin at 7 p.m. ET / 4 PT from the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas. Bleacher Report will have the results posted right here as they happen.

UFC 162 Full Fight Card:

Anderson Silva vs. Chris Weidman

Frankie Edgar vs. Charles Oliveira

Roger Gracie vs. Tim Kennedy

Tim Boetsch vs. Mark Munoz

Dennis Siver vs. Cub Swanson

Andrew Craig vs. Chris Leben

Norman Parke vs. Kazuki Tokudome

Gabriel Gonzaga vs. Dave Herman

Edson Barboza vs. Rafaello Oliveira

Seth Baczynski vs. Brian Melancon

David Mitchell vs. Mike Pierce

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UFC 162 Weigh In Results: Anderson Silva vs Chris Weidman Fight Card

UFC 162 will take place on Saturday, July 6 in the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nev.  Headlining the event will be a middleweight title fight between long-reigning champion Anderson Silva and top-ranked challenger Chris Weidman. The bout w…

UFC 162 will take place on Saturday, July 6 in the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nev.  Headlining the event will be a middleweight title fight between long-reigning champion Anderson Silva and top-ranked challenger Chris Weidman. The bout will be Silva’s 11th consecutive attempt to defend his title.

The co-main event will feature former UFC lightweight champion Frankie Edgar versus Charles Oliveira. For Edgar, this fight will be quite a change of pace. Edgar has not fought a three round, non-title bout since he defeated Matt Veach in December 2009.

The rest of the main card will feature fighters looking to move into the top ten in their division or fighters looking to hold onto their ranking as the best in their division.

Before the 22 fighters competing on Saturday can step into the Octagon, they have to step onto the scale.

Weigh-Ins will get under way from the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas at 7 p.m. ET / 4 PT and Bleacher Report will have the results posted right here as they happen.

To catch the live streaming of the weigh-ins, head over here: UFC 162 Live Streaming Weigh-Ins

Full UFC 162 Fight Card:

Anderson Silva vs. Chris Weidman

Frankie Edgar vs. Charles Oliveira

Roger Gracie vs. Tim Kennedy

Tim Boetsch vs. Mark Munoz

Dennis Siver vs. Cub Swanson

Andrew Craig vs. Chris Leben

Norman Parke vs. Kazuki Tokudome

Gabriel Gonzaga vs. Dave Herman

Edson Barboza vs. Rafaello Oliveira

Seth Baczynski vs. Brian Melancon

David Mitchell vs. Mike Pierce

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