With a massive stable of fighters to preside over, UFC president Dana White naturally tolerates foolish behavior from his employees on a regular basis.
From failed drug screens to arrests for violent crimes, White has had to both temporarily and perman…
With a massive stable of fighters to preside over, UFC president Dana White naturally tolerates foolish behavior from his employees on a regular basis.
From failed drug screens to arrests for violent crimes, White has had to both temporarily and permanently dismiss plenty of title contenders in his day.
But White still evidently believes that a post-fight sucker punch that Paul Daley landed on Josh Koscheck at UFC 113 proved one of the most unforgivable offenses to date in the Octagon.
During thepre-fight media scrum for UFC Fight Night 41 on Friday, White talked about the Daley incident and why he’s had such a difficult time sympathizing with the British slugger.
Paul Daley had his management write me a letter a few days ago, basically saying that he has grown up a lot since that incident, he’s been on a win streak, and it’s one of the biggest regrets of his life, and things like that. I showed it to [UFC CEO] Lorenzo [Fertitta], and Lorenzo’s like, ‘It’s up to you brother, what do you want to do?’ And it’s such a hard one for me. It’s a hard one for me. … It’s just one of those things that’s hard to forgive.
White briefly flashed back to the night in May 2010 when Daley cracked Koscheck after the bell, offering the following sentiments to reporters on hand: “I always liked Paul Daley. I liked him as a fighter and the way that he fought and everything else. But I’m telling you, I walked up into the Octagon that night, when that was going on, and he just didn’t give a s–t. He didn’t give a s–t.”
Koscheck easily handled Daley en route to a unanimous decision in what was a title eliminator bout at UFC 113.
Since falling to Koscheck, Daley has gone 11-4 with seven wins coming via TKO or KO. Daley has won five of his last six fights, each win coming by TKO or KO.
Regardless of Daley’s potential to excite and draw fans, White made it obvious that he’s not yet ready to forgive him.
“He’s the only guy in UFC history that’s ever sucker-punched somebody after the fight. One guy…and there’s a lot of things that I have forgave in the past, [but] that’s a tough one.”
Banning a cage-fighter for punching his opponent in the face is kind of like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500. Of course, context is everything in MMA. Between the first horn and the final horn, you’re allowed to inflict massive head trauma and wrench limbs until they break apart, as long as you avoid the relatively small list of no-nos set forth in the Unified Rules. But if you hit a guy directly after the fight is over? You’re garbage, and nobody wants you.
I’m not trying to call that hypocritical in any way. In fact, it’s these small distinctions — these subtle nods to context and polite behavior — that prevent mixed martial arts from devolving into pure barbarism. Otherwise, MMA would eventually become Thunderdome, and nobody wants that. Well, I’m sure some people want that. But we’re not sociopaths, are we? We’re sports fans. At the end of the day, having fights end with mentally handicapped man-children literally dying in the cage does us no good as a society.
(By the way, how many times have I referenced Master Blaster while running this site? Dozens of times? Thousands? Indeed, it has been a long journey.)
Four years ago today — May 8th, 2010 — at UFC 113 in Montreal, Paul Daley spent three rounds being smothered by the superior wrestling of Josh Koscheck. The fight was as dull as it was predictable. Clearly, Koscheck wasn’t interested in a standup battle against Paul Daley, one of the most dangerous welterweight strikers in MMA history. So, Kos scored a few takedowns and hung out in top position for fifteen minutes. And when it was all over, Paul Daley got to his feet and popped him one.
Banning a cage-fighter for punching his opponent in the face is kind of like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500. Of course, context is everything in MMA. Between the first horn and the final horn, you’re allowed to inflict massive head trauma and wrench limbs until they break apart, as long as you avoid the relatively small list of no-nos set forth in the Unified Rules. But if you hit a guy directly after the fight is over? You’re garbage, and nobody wants you.
I’m not trying to call that hypocritical in any way. In fact, it’s these small distinctions — these subtle nods to context and polite behavior — that prevent mixed martial arts from devolving into pure barbarism. Otherwise, MMA would eventually become Thunderdome, and nobody wants that. Well, I’m sure some people want that. But we’re not sociopaths, are we? We’re sports fans. At the end of the day, having fights end with mentally handicapped man-children literally dying in the cage does us no good as a society.
(By the way, how many times have I referenced Master Blaster while running this site? Dozens of times? Thousands? Indeed, it has been a long journey.)
Four years ago today — May 8th, 2010 — at UFC 113 in Montreal, Paul Daley spent three rounds being smothered by the superior wrestling of Josh Koscheck. The fight was as dull as it was predictable. Clearly, Koscheck wasn’t interested in a standup battle against Paul Daley, one of the most dangerous welterweight strikers in MMA history. So, Kos scored a few takedowns and hung out in top position for fifteen minutes. And when it was all over, Paul Daley got to his feet and popped him one.
It was a desperate move born out of frustration and a total lack of impulse control. Apparently, Koscheck was talking shit to Daley during the entire fight, which doesn’t excuse Daley’s actions, but helps to illustrate what an unpleasant experience that fight must have been for the British slugger. As soon as the sucker-punch landed, referee Dan Miragliotta jumped in to restrain Daley, barking “ARE YOU KIDDIN’ ME?” in his burly East Coast accent, reflecting the utter disbelief of everybody who was watching this unfold live. The infamous Strikeforce Nashville brawl had happened less than a month earlier, and now the sport had another public embarrassment to deal with. Suddenly, Paul Daley was the biggest heel in MMA. Then, Josh Koscheck grabbed the mic and immediately reclaimed that title…
Whatever sympathy Koscheck briefly gained from being cheap-shotted was immediately snuffed out when he started insulting Montreal’s sports heroes, unprovoked, in a classic example of his cartoonish assholism. Seven months later, Koscheck returned to Montreal to get torn apart by Georges St-Pierre, in a beatdown so satisfying that we named a Potato Award after it.
“He’s done. I don’t give a shit if he’s the best 170-pounder in the world. He’ll never come back here again…I’m probably the most lenient guy in sports. And this is probably one of the most lenient organizations. We’re all human, we all make mistakes, things happen. [But] there’s no excuse for that. These guys are professional athletes. You don’t ever hit a guy blatantly after the bell like that whether you’re frustrated or not. It was probably one of the dumbest things I’ve ever seen…I don’t care if he fights in every show all over the world and becomes the best and everybody thinks he’s the pound-for-pound best in the world. He will never fight in the UFC ever again.”
And if he hadn’t punched Josh Koscheck after the bell, that one fateful night in Montreal, then what? Maybe he’d stick around for a few more years, collecting UFC knockout bonuses against mid-level veterans, winning a couple and losing one, winning a couple and losing one, until finally the UFC realized he was making too much money for a guy who would never work his way up to a title shot. And in that alternate universe, Paul Daley would be signed to World Series of Fighting right now. I’m not sure which scenario is worse.
(Don’t worry, this is the only time you’ll be seeing this guy on the list.)
With three of the fights on UFC 170‘s main card ending in the first round, the CagePotato.com staff has decided to revisit the greatest one-round fights in MMA history during today’s CagePotato Roundtable.Despite their brevity, these fights were memorable enough to be worthy of any discussion on the greatest fights in MMA history. Read on for our picks, and please continue to send your ideas for future roundtable discussion topics to [email protected].
Greatest fight that only went one round, you say? Psh, please. How about a fight that had more total strikes thrown in the first 30+ seconds than in the entire multi-year relationship between that (piece of crap) Ike Turner and Tina? Ok, ok, maybe not that many but Don Frye vs. Yoshihiro Takayama still resulted in a shit load of punches. So, to all the other contributors to this RoundTable, I respect your opinions but much like the original Highlander – There can be only one – your choices are all The Kurgan (and he was “the hardest screw that ever walked a turn at Shawshank State Prison” mind you, so you can take solace in that you losers).
After a multitude of viewings, according to my bloodshot eyes and my bourbon breath, there were 91 total strikes thrown by both Don Frye and Yoshirho Yamasaka in the opening 34 seconds of their epic collision way back at Pride 21 in June of 2002. True, I am not Reed Kuhn and these figures are not exact like a Cagepotato Databomb but let those punch-stats sink in. For a little more than half a minute, almost 3 strikes were thrown per second with almost ALL of them landing.
(Don’t worry, this is the only time you’ll be seeing this guy on the list.)
With three of the fights on UFC 170‘s main card ending in the first round, the CagePotato.com staff has decided to revisit the greatest one-round fights in MMA history during today’s CagePotato Roundtable.Despite their brevity, these fights were memorable enough to be worthy of any discussion on the greatest fights in MMA history. Read on for our picks, and please continue to send your ideas for future roundtable discussion topics to [email protected].
Greatest fight that only went one round, you say? Psh, please. How about a fight that had more total strikes thrown in the first 30+ seconds than in the entire multi-year relationship between that (piece of crap) Ike Turner and Tina? Ok, ok, maybe not that many but Don Frye vs. Yoshihiro Takayama still resulted in a shit load of punches. So, to all the other contributors to this RoundTable, I respect your opinions but much like the original Highlander – There can be only one – your choices are all The Kurgan (and he was “the hardest screw that ever walked a turn at Shawshank State Prison” mind you, so you can take solace in that you losers).
After a multitude of viewings, according to my bloodshot eyes and my bourbon breath, there were 91 total strikes thrown by both Don Frye and Yoshirho Yamasaka in the opening 34 seconds of their epic collision way back at Pride 21 in June of 2002. True, I am not Reed Kuhn and these figures are not exact like a Cagepotato Databomb but let those punch-stats sink in. For a little more than half a minute, almost 3 strikes were thrown per second with almost ALL of them landing.
The two combatants literally played the roles of the Blue Bomber and the Red Rocker while trying to knock each others blocks off. Most hockey fights fail to deliver that type of jackhammer-punching and mano y mano awesomeness. Even Ryu and Ken have fewer strikes thrown in a three round contest than Frye and Yamasaka unleashed in the opening moments of their one round affair.
Sure, the fight was not exactly a technical masterpiece but it even had the passionately polite crowd at the Saitama Super Arena in a fanatical frenzy. The Frye vs Yamasaka contest went on to win Fight of the Year in many publications and it now lives in online infamy. Because Frye. Because Pride.
The 2004 PRIDE heavyweight grand prix semi-final between PRIDE heavyweight champion Fedor Emelianenko and 1992 Olympic silver medalist in judo Naoya Ogawa ended in less than a minute with Fedor winning via armbar. But the result was a combination of Fedor’s thwarted Olympic aspirations, PRIDE’s deception and skilled management.
When Fedor was on Russia’s national judo team, resentment collected as he was unable to surmount the politics that kept him from representing Russia in the world championships or the Olympics:
“In all of the Russian championships I was always third-third-third. In our sport the first place always goes to the world competitions, the second to Europe’s. I was always third. I was tired and was asking them if they had a conscience at all. I’m fighting, and the entire room’s yelling at the judge, ‘What are you watching?’ I couldn’t get through, so I left.”
Pro wrestler Ogawa had many asterisks next to his 7-0 win column in MMA. Gary Goodrige said he was offered a bribe of $20,000 to lose to Ogawa (Goodridge, who lost via keylock, claims he turned the bribe down). Going into the first round of the 2004 grand prix against Ogawa, kickboxer Stefan Leko could barely walk, but when his compensation was more than doubled from $150,000, Leko agreed to be shot full of painkillers and the fight went on. Leko quickly lost to Ogawa via arm-triangle choke .
Said Fedor and Leko’s then-manager Miro Mijatovic, “Fedor knew humiliating Ogawa was another step in building his legend amongst the general Japanese public. We insiders knew Ogawa was crap, and I was pissed at our role in allowing that fraud to get so far.”
The PRIDE brass wanted Fedor to take on Sergei Kharitonov in the semi-finals, but Fedor’s team knew that smashing Ogawa was a better proposition.
That Ogawa was an elite judoka who had enjoyed the opportunities to shine on the world stage denied to Fedor provided the fuel. The lack of a handshake before the contest was dropped like a lit match as Fedor coldly dismantled Ogawa in the first round en route to winning the 2004 PRIDE heavyweight grand prix.
So what if it’s a little under 10 minutes long – technically, the first battle in the three-part war waged by Wanderlei Silva and Quinton Jackson took place within a single round, so it qualifies for this list. Silva and Jackson, two of the greatest light heavyweights (or in PRIDE terms, middleweights) in the history of the sport, met in the culmination of the 2003 Pride Grand Prix for Silva’s middleweight title. At the time, the argument could be made that they were the best fighters on the planet. Jackson had just defeated Chuck Liddell earlier in the night, and Silva had dominated a game Hidehiko Yoshida as well. Silva was in the midst of his prime and Jackson was just entering his own.
If that context wasn’t enough, there was no love lost between these two heading into the finals. Following a knockout win over Kevin Randleman at Pride 25, Jackson had called out Silva for a title fight. Silva responded in kind by rushing into the ring, yelling “MY BELT” at Jackson and shoving him across the ring. Before it even came to blows, they engaged in one of the most intense staredowns in MMA history – Jackson unblinking and snarling as Silva hopped back and forth, their eyes never dropping for an instant. When the fight began, Jackson rushed across the ring to slam Silva as was his wont in those days. Silva countered by pulling guard and attempting a guillotine. While unsuccessful, he was able to avert the fate of Ricardo Arona and the fight continued from his guard. Jackson was active, but Silva was able to avoid any significant damage by utilizing an effective defensive guard.
Jackson was able to pass Silva’s guard after the latter attempted an armbar, and proceeded to land knees to Silva’s face from side control. Silva regained half-guard, but Jackson continued to work with body shots. His success was fleeting; Silva quickly regained guard and proceeded to stall where he was able. A somewhat questionable standup followed, as Wanderlei received a yellow card for inactivity but also benefitted from returning to his feet. Taking advantage of this opportunity, Silva managed to stun Jackson with a knee from the clinch. What followed was one of the most brutal and memorable displays of sanctioned violence ever. Silva chased down the backpedalling Jackson and managed to secure a Muay Thai plum. He proceeded to deliver 17 unanswered knee strikes to Jackson’s head, with the occasional soccer kick thrown in for good measure. In a surreal moment, Jackson and Silva seemed to lock eyes one final time and smile at each other before Silva delivered the final blow and Jackson crumpled to the canvas.
The fight itself is one of the most exciting and vicious you will ever see in MMA. It featured two of the best fighters at their peaks fighting for a title after each had already dispatched legitimate fighters earlier in the evening. Not only was it a seminal moment in the history of the sport, it contained seminal moments within it. Few other fights can claim to possess these accolades. None can do so having only lasted a round. That’s why this is the greatest one-round fight that ever was, and perhaps the best that will ever be.
We all may rip on Nick Diaz for being a delusional, numb-skulled stoner with sociopathic tendencies around here, myself included, but it’s hard to deny that the man was destined to be a mixed martial artist (which makes it all the more frustrating that he up and retires every time a fight doesn’t go his way). Few fighters display such a blind sense of confidence in the cage, and Diaz’s ability to do so from the very get-go of a fight, or regardless of whether he’s actually winning a fight, is a thing of beauty to watch. It’s goddamn heroic, is what it is. Call Nick Diaz stupid all you want, but I bet you’d be willing to trade in a few brain cells for the gift of fearlessness in a heartbeat. I sure as hell would. I sleep with a night light to keep out the monsters to this day. Nick Diaz sleeps under his bed every night hoping that one of those punk-ass bitches *tries* to start some shit with him when he’s not looking.
And that’s not even to mention his skill set. Diaz not only possesses some of the best Jiu-Jitsu in the game, but the kind of smothering, in-your-face boxing skills that have broken many a so-called “superior striker” in his heyday. Take his fight with Paul Daley at Strikeforce: Daley vs. Diaz in 2011, for instance. Although Diaz was the promotion’s welterweight champion at the time, Daley was the one being heralded as the guy who could change the complexion of a fight with a single punch. We expected nothing less than a Rock’em Sock’em match in Diaz vs. Daley, and they delivered one in the most dramatic fashion imaginable.
To his credit, Daley was able to drop and nearly finish the unbreakable Diaz with punches on two separate occasions in their one round war. As was the case in most of Diaz’s fights, it took getting dropped for Stockton’s finest to realize that his opponent hit like a bitch. Had Daley known that rocking a Diaz is like cutting one head off a Hydra, he would have probably pulled a Claudinei Angelo right then and there. Yet he kept fighting, the brave bastard.
Diaz quickly recovered on both occasions, picked his shots, clinched when necessary, and waited for his moment of opportunity, never reverting from his signature “come at me, bro” pose in the face of danger. That moment came with 20 seconds left in the first round, when during an exchange along the fence, Diaz blistered Daley with an overhand right that sent him tumbling to the canvas. A few follow up punches in the closing seconds came shortly thereafter, and just like that, Nick Diaz became the first man to ever stop Daley with strikes.
Nick Diaz, the guy who strikes with strikers and wins. The champion who favors a good fight over a gameplan, a back-and-forth slugfest over an easy decision win. How can you hate that?
On one hand, this is an extremely tough spot to be in: Both Matt Hughes vs. Frank Trigg II and Cheick Kongo vs. Pat Barry are still on the board, yet I can only pick one of these fights as my choice. Yet on the other hand, this really isn’t a difficult decision. Cheick Kongo vs. Pat Barry gets the nod here.
Everything that can possibly be written about this classic already has been, so I’m not going to beat a dead horse and recap it blow-by-blow. Besides, if you’ve ever so much as heard about this fight, you know exactly what happened. Kongo vs. Barry had everything that a great fight should: evenly matched opponents, logical strategies, and a dramatic build-up to the a climactic finish. And that was before Cheick Kongo came back from seemingly being knocked out to shut out Pat Barry’s lights.
You could take two of the best fight choreographers in Hollywood, two of the most talented professional wrestlers in the WWE, and give them an entire year to build up a fight to such an exciting finish in only two minutes and thirty-nine seconds, and their creation wouldn’t hold a candle to this. “Anything can happen in a cage fight,” MMA promoters will tell you. Sometimes, it’s actually true.
Did we omit your favorite one-round fight? Let us know your pick in the comments section.
(Aaaaaaand boom goes the dynamite. GIF via Zombie Prophet.)
It’s a well known fact that a Brazilian’s merit in the cage can be determined by how many names they have before Silva (the fewer the better). Think about it: Anderson Silva, Wanderlei Silva…Giant Silva — all great fighters, all adhering to the two-name paradigm. Bruno Gustavo Aparecido da Silva, on the other hand, is simply too long to fit on a lunchbox and therefore not capable of achieving greatness. Unfortunately, Romario Manoel da Silva was a “Manoel da” away from said greatness when he stepped into the cage against Paul Daley at BAMMA 14 last weekend and was nearly decapitated for his insolence.
In a classic “Did he died?” moment, Daley unleashes a hellacious left uppercut on da Silva early in the second round, folding him up like a steel chair after an ice cream social. With the win, Daley improved to 5-1 in his last 6 and 34-13 overall. With punches like that, it should come as no surprise that all of Daley’s past 5 wins have come via (T)KO.
We’ve thrown a full video of Daley-da Silva after the jump, so check it out and give us your best Smokey fromFridayreaction to the KO in the comments section.
(Aaaaaaand boom goes the dynamite. GIF via Zombie Prophet.)
It’s a well known fact that a Brazilian’s merit in the cage can be determined by how many names they have before Silva (the fewer the better). Think about it: Anderson Silva, Wanderlei Silva…Giant Silva — all great fighters, all adhering to the two-name paradigm. Bruno Gustavo Aparecido da Silva, on the other hand, is simply too long to fit on a lunchbox and therefore not capable of achieving greatness. Unfortunately, Romario Manoel da Silva was a “Manoel da” away from said greatness when he stepped into the cage against Paul Daley at BAMMA 14 last weekend and was nearly decapitated for his insolence.
In a classic “Did he died?” moment, Daley unleashes a hellacious left uppercut on da Silva early in the second round, folding him up like a steel chair after an ice cream social. With the win, Daley improved to 5-1 in his last 6 and 34-13 overall. With punches like that, it should come as no surprise that all of Daley’s past 5 wins have come via (T)KO.
We’ve thrown a full video of Daley-da Silva after the jump, so check it out and give us your best Smokey fromFridayreaction to the KO in the comments section.
While legal troubles and a certain lifetime ban may prevent Daley from ever becoming a UFC champion, there are few things in this world that stand the test of time as well as his murderfists. Off the top of my head, I can think of only two: The reluctance of children to check out this awesome surprise I have in my van and the effectiveness of pepper spray. That every one of these bastards has a smartphone nowadays surely isn’t helping. I mean, what fun is it if they can just select an app and the cops are already on their way? GOD I MISS THE NINETIES.
It looks like Paul Daley’s dream return to the UFC won’t materialise after all. A lack of interest from the world’s top MMA promotion has led the British welterweight to re-sign with BAMMA just weeks after his departure from Bellator….
It looks like Paul Daley’s dream return to the UFC won’t materialise after all. A lack of interest from the world’s top MMA promotion has led the British welterweight to re-sign with BAMMA just weeks after his departure from Bellator.
Daley was a hot property at 170 pounds in 2009 when he joined the UFC. He instantly made his mark with some head-turning knockout wins over Martin Kampmann and Dustin Hazelett, proving his worth as one of the most dangerous and heaviest-handed fighters in all of MMA.
But all that came crashing down after a moment of madness following a frustrated three-round decision loss to Josh Koscheck in 2010 at UFC 113. After the final bell, with the match clearly lost, Daley punched Koscheck, earning him an instant dismissal from the promotion.
Three years fighting for other prominent MMA organisations, such as Strikeforce, Bellator and BAMMA, followed, resulting in some successes and a recent four-fight winning streak.
However, the fighter has never been far from controversy. In December 2012, shortly after starting a new contract with Bellator, Daley was denied a visa to fight in the US and rumours, which the fighter denied, suggested it was because of criminal charges related to a bar brawl he was facing in England.
Those issues never got resolved with relations between the two parties worsening after Daley aired his grievances over Bellator’s contract demands.
Two weeks ago Bellator finally released him, with the MMA media abuzz with talk of a return to the UFC.
Daley himself wasted no time in expressing his desire to return to the sport’s top promotion. However, UFC president Dana White showed a distinct lack of interest in the idea.
Perhaps the fighter, with visa issues and a history of discipline problems, came with just too much baggage for the UFC. In any case, he has signed a new deal with BAMMA, where he last fought in 2011, saying (H/T MMA Mania):
“I’m extremely happy to sign with a premier European promotion… BAMMA provides exciting match-ups for hardcore fans, with a TV production that appeals to mainstream viewers. I’m aiming to bring my own brand of fight entertainment into households around the world the only way I, Paul ‘Semtex’ Daley, know how … knockout victories.”
No date has been set for his return to BAMMA, although his fight against an unnamed opponent for Russian MMA promotion, Legend Fight Show 2, will still go ahead in November.
MMA’s Great Debate Radio returns for Thursday’s show where we break down UFC 163, react to the news about Rampage vs. Tito Ortiz in Bellator and welcome in Phil Davis as well as Paul Daley.
UFC 163 goes under the microscope today with picks and predict…
MMA‘s Great Debate Radio returns for Thursday’s show where we break down UFC 163, react to the news about Rampage vs. Tito Ortiz in Bellator and welcome in Phil Davis as well as Paul Daley.
UFC 163 goes under the microscope today with picks and predictions for the entire main card, as well as some other important stories surrounding the upcoming event in Brazil.
We also give our take on the newly announced matchup headlining Bellator‘s first ever pay-per-view putting former UFC champions Quinton “Rampage” Jackson and Tito Ortiz against each other.
UFC 163 co-main event fighter Phil Davis also stops by the show today to talk about his fight with LyotoMachida, and he also explains how he has something in common with actor Liam Neeson.
Also on the show, British heavy hitter Paul Daley talks about his desire to return to the UFC, and a rematch that’s on his radar that he would love to land.
The debate topics on today’s show also heat up with discussion about UFC 163 as well as Rampage vs. Tito. The topics include:
—Bellator to headline their first PPV with Quinton “Rampage” Jackson vs. Tito Ortiz—thoughts on the matchup and is this a good idea for Bellator?
—Rate your interest level in UFC 163 on a scale of 1-10?
—Fight Pick: John Lineker vs. Jose Maria?
—Fight Pick: Tom “Kong” Watson vs. Thales Leites?
—Fight Pick: CezarMutante vs. Thiago Santos?
—Do you believe LyotoMachida will ever fight for the light heavyweight title again?
—Fight Pick: LyotoMachida vs. Phil Davis?
—Should Jose Aldo move to lightweight after his fight with The Korean Zombie?
—Fight Pick: Jose Aldo vs. The Korean Zombie Chan Sung Jung?
This is MMA’s Great Debate Radio for Thursday, August 1, 2013
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