Matt Brown: Fighters Themselves Are to Blame for Pay Issues, Not Just the UFC

Matt Brown: Fighters Themselves Are to Blame for Pay Issues, Not Just the UFCIf you want someone to blame for poor fighter pay, blame the fighters. After logging 30 career fights under…

Matt Brown: Fighters Themselves Are to Blame for Pay Issues, Not Just the UFC

If you want someone to blame for poor fighter pay, blame the fighters.

After logging 30 career fights under the UFC banner, Matt Brown laid down his gloves for good earlier this year. In the time since, Brown has kept busy building businesses and setting himself up for long-term success outside the Octagon.

Having learned much about how the UFC conducts business over his 16 years with the promotion, Brown believes that the never-ending debate over fighter pay is much deeper than simply pointing a finger at the promotion and telling them to pay their athletes more money. However, he does agree that that’s exactly what the UFC should probably do considering the record-breaking revenues the organization pulls in year-over-year.

Matt Brown

Still, Brown recognizes the situation is far more complicated than that and questions whether or not the average Joe would do things differently if put in the same position.

“It’s hard to expect the UFC to just be completely fair about it,” Brown said on the latest episode of The Fighter vs. The Writer. “They’re running a business, and they run it very f*cking well. They’ve done an amazing job building their business. I think 99 percent of people in their shoes would be doing very similar to what they’re doing.

“Does that make it right? That’s up to each person to decide on their own. I think it’s just way more complex than people give it credit for” (h/t MMA Fighting).

Matt Brown

As much as the blame over poor fighter pay falls on the shoulders of the UFC, Brown thinks athletes, himself included, need to start pointing the finger at themselves for not holding the promotion accountable.

“If anybody is to blame for fighter pay, it’s the fighters — and I’m one of them, at least formerly,” Brown said. “I never fought against the UFC about my pay. You’ve seen on Instagram, Twitter, different interviews where the fighters stick up for the UFC.

“I’ve never heard of a business in my life where the employees — if you want to call us employees or even subcontractors — where they’re going to say, ‘I shouldn’t be paid more, they’re paying me a perfect amount of money.’ That is so unbelievable to me.”

Matt Brown

matt brown explains why UFC fighters aren’t more vocal about pay problems

For the most part, Brown has been happy with how the UFC has treated him over the years, noting only one instance when he felt it necessary to air a grievance with Dana White. Brown revealed that White completely agreed with him during their behind-closed-doors meeting and the two sides reached a new deal amicably.

That said, Brown largely avoided complaining about his UFC pay believing that picking a fight with his employer probably wouldn’t do him any favors at the negotiating table.

“Look, I’ve always been happy with how the UFC’s treated me, I like them,” Brown said. “There’s no hate against them at all, but if I thought sticking up for myself and fighting with them about pay would get me paid more, I would absolutely do it in a heartbeat. I only question if guys are saying that because we know the amount of power that [UFC] have.

“If you try fighting against [UFC], your chances of getting more pay just get diminished. You’re just lowering your chances of getting more pay. So of course you publicly stick up for them even though something in the back of your head is saying, ‘Damn, this isn’t really what I want.’”

Years later, Frank Mir realizes how horribly underpaid he was for his UFC 100 fight with Brock Lesnar

Years later, Frank Mir realizes how horribly underpaid he was for his UFC 100 fight with Brock LesnarFrank Mir headlined one of the highest-grossing events in UFC history and was left with little to show for…

Years later, Frank Mir realizes how horribly underpaid he was for his UFC 100 fight with Brock Lesnar

Frank Mir headlined one of the highest-grossing events in UFC history and was left with little to show for it.

Emanating from the Mandalay Bay Events Center on July 11, 2009, the promotion delivered its first centennial event, UFC 100, featuring a blockbuster heavyweight championship main event pitting division staple Frank Mir against WWE Superstar turned MMA fighter Brock Lesnar. Selling 1.6 million pay-per-views, it was the biggest event in UFC history at the time and still holds strong as the promotions’ fifth biggest seller.

Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir at UFC 100

With premium cards costing $44.95 at the time, the event produced $71 million in revenue which was ultimately split in half with cable providers, leaving the UFC with roughly $35 million. Mir’s reported purse for headlining the historic event was a meager $45,000 — a little more than 10% of Lesnar’s $400,000. This was before pay-per-view bonuses were factored in.

Mir ultimately walked away with a sum that was still below the $1 million mark. In fact, Mir never once cleared seven figures during his 15-year run with the promotion, making him one of the most underpaid fighters in UFC history. By the time he realized what was going on, it was too late.

“I think when it finally dawned on me was the Deontay Wilder [rematch] with Tyson Fury,” Mir told MMA Fighting. “We still did more buys than they did, me and Brock, and then I’m looking at the pay-per-view cost. OK, the money was there. Who did it go to? Seeing these guys make $40 million combined. I’m like wow. Brock obviously made seven figures off it, I think he made $2.5 million. But I didn’t even make a million.”

Frank Mir vs. Brock Lesnar

The Wilder-Fury fight generated roughly half of the buys that UFC 100 did, hovering in the area of 800,000 to 850,000. But with a price tag of $79.99, the event brought in $66 million. Wilder and Fury were both guaranteed to walk away with upwards of $25 million apiece on top of a share of the PPV revenue. A far cry from what Mir and Lesnar earned for their big-money rematch.

“Brock himself, a much bigger superstar than [Fury or Wilder],” Mir said. “How come he wasn’t making $20 million? That blows my mind, and I don’t understand it. “Until Conor [McGregor] came along, we had the record for the most pay-per-view buys sold.”

Frank Mir Hopeful that his daughter will fare better in the fight game than he did

Looking back, Frank Mir is understandably frustrated by the pitiable purses he had received, but the reality is that the former heavyweight titleholder simply didn’t know what kind of money the UFC was bringing in at the time. Years later, he recognizes that his lack of knowledge and understanding proved to be a costly lesson in an otherwise stellar career.

“At the time, I didn’t know better,” Mir said. “We didn’t know. Just now as time goes on, I’m looking around like, hold on a second, that makes no sense. A pay-per-view buy is a pay-per-view buy. Why is this sport paying their athletes this percentage of what they’re making versus this one? It’s the pretty same makeup. This isn’t two wildly different sports, boxing and MMA. They’re very comparable when it comes to putting up a cage or a ring, so it’s not like the costs are different.

“So what’s the difference here? Oh, that’s because you have competing promoters, and they know what’s going on, and you can’t screw each other. In the UFC, it’s the only promoter. In MMA, the show is the only promoter. It’s not like we’re going to have a Bellator fighter and a UFC fighter, and they’re both on the card, so both organizations know what they’re going to get their guy, because they both understand the revenue models. They understand what’s going on. They’re not speaking from ignorance.”

Frank Mir

The issue of fighter pay is still a contentious topic in the world of mixed martial arts. Particularly in the UFC where the promotion typically shares a paltry 15-17% of its revenue with fighters — a downright pathetic percentage when you consider that leagues like the NFL, MLB, NHL, and NBA regularly share 50% of their revenue with athletes, give or take.

Of course, fighters today make more money now than during Mir’s heyday. Knowing that helps the former heavyweight sleep a little better at night as his daughter Bella is prepared to follow in her father’s legendary footsteps.

“I’m not as uneasy about it,” Mir said. “Before, it was like I don’t know that many people who do MMA and don’t still have to do something afterward. Myself included. Doing commentary, working for different groups and organizations. There’s a reason why I’m busy. To know she can make a career and a living off it too, it makes that pill a little easier to swallow.

“As the father in me, I’m like OK, she’s going to be millionaire at least. I’m not as scared about it as I was before. Because you have the risk of injury, and you’re not going to be pursuing other endeavors in life that could take care of you financially, and you’re going to sacrifice that to follow this fight career, and then you’re going to be behind when you go into those careers.

“For what? For personal gain, for martial arts and pushing yourself is awesome, but as a father, it’s like what about your bank account? Your security. Are you going to be able to take care of yourself? At the time, I was terrified. Now, not so much. It’s a better world now than when I was there.”

Frank Mir and his daughter Bella Mir

Dana White continues to defend UFC fighter pay compared to boxing where champions ‘get the lion’s share’

Dana WhiteDana White used “journeyman” Jim Miller in his latest defense of UFC fighter pay. The Las Vegas-based promotion has…

Dana White

Dana White used “journeyman” Jim Miller in his latest defense of UFC fighter pay.

The Las Vegas-based promotion has been under scrutiny for years as fans and fighters have spoken out about low wages, particularly when compared to other professional sports leagues like the NFL, MLB, NHL, and NBA. Comparatively, those organizations share roughly 50% of their revenue with the athletes they employ. The UFC hovers more in the range of 15%.

Despite that glaring statistic, White has remained adamant that fighters get paid what they’re worth. Speaking with Vivek Ramaswamy on the TRUTH podcast, the UFC CEO once again attempted to defend the amount of money he pays his fighters, using 19-year veteran Jim Miller as an example of how much a fighter can make without ever reaching the upper echelon of MMA superstardom.

“Whoever the champion is in boxing, gets the lion’s share of the revenue,” White said. “Here (in UFC) it’s dispersed across everyone. We got a guy right now who’s 40 years old, and he’s on this hot streak, man. His name’s Jim Miller. He’s been around forever. He’s been around since we bought the company, and he’s still fighting. 

“He’s gonna fight on UFC 300 and this is a guy who’s been — I guess you could call him a journeyman in boxing [terms], right? If you ask most people, they wouldn’t know who Jim Miller is, and the guy’s made millions of dollars” (h/t Bloody Elbow).

“He’s never made it to that level [of UFC champion],” White continued. “Guys that would be considered journeymen in boxing never make that kind of money ever. It’s because we focus on building great fights with great fighters. If you can stay here for a certain amount of time, you make really good money.

“It supports your family, you can pay your house off. You’re not gonna have $30-40 million, but you’ll have $6, $7, $8 million. And most people wouldn’t even know who he was.”

Jim Miller, who made his promotional debut all the way back in 2008, has won five of his last six bouts and is scheduled to fight lightweight standout Bobby Green at UFC 300 on April 13. Whether ‘A-10’ wins or losses at the landmark event, Miller is set to make history by being the only fighter to compete at UFC 100, UFC 200, and UFC 300.

UFC appears to Censor Sean Strickland During unfiltered Fighter Pay Rant: ‘You Sell your soul for it’

Sean StricklandJust as Sean Strickland was beginning the peel back the curtain, offering fans and aspiring fighters a very bleak…

Sean Strickland

Just as Sean Strickland was beginning the peel back the curtain, offering fans and aspiring fighters a very bleak look at what it means to be a UFC competitor, his mic was cut off.

Joining Extra Rounds host T.J. DeSantis and UFC Hall of Famer Don Frye to promote the UFC in a live broadcast from Professional Bull Riders, which is owned by UFC corporate parent Endeavor, Strickland decided to flip the script, sharing his honest advice for anyone hoping to one day step inside the Octagon.

After 30 minutes of relatively harmless discussion, Sean Strickland decided to spice things up by asking Frye how much money he made during his time in the UFC. “I think we all wanna f*cking know this, bro, because I’ve heard numbers of like guys [from] your time, and they tell me how much they make, bro, and it makes you want to cry a little bit,” Strickland said with a smile.

DeSantis quickly pivoted to the $50,000 prize awarded to the tournament winner. Frye added that the wage for everyone else was a meager $500. That’s all Strickland needed to hear before launching into why aspiring fighters should find a different career path.

Sean Strickland Goes in On UFC Fighter Pay

“Hey, you want to be a UFC fighter,” Strickland said in a video he posted to his Instagram. “$500 bucks. … But you know, it’s not that much different now, man. It’s funny, this guy came up to me, and he said, ‘Hey, you know, my son’s 17, he trains, he wants to be a fighter. Do you have any advice?’

“I said, ‘Don’t do it.’ He goes, ‘What do you mean?’ And I’m like, ‘Well, let me explain to you, sir.’ Let me explain if you guys have kids at home who want to be a fighter. Let me explain to you the joy of being an MMA fighter.

“I was like, ‘You see the Contender [Series fighters], what do you think they make?’ And he goes, ‘I don’t know.’ I go, ‘They make five and five. If they lose, they make five.’ And he goes, ‘Damn.’ I go, ‘If you lose, guess what, you’re not going to UFC.’ So this entire life you could have spent building a life, doing any other aspect in life, you chose to train fighting.

“So let’s just say you make it now you make it to the UFC. Well, hey, guess what, what do you think they sign the average guy on? … Ten and 10 for this man. So you make it to UFC, you get signed, 10 and 10, and now you fight for 10 and 10, and you’ve spent your entire life working for this one goal. You get the blue check mark, you get the UFC in your logo, you get all the people, you get all of it now.

So you go 2-2 and maybe they’re boring fights, and the UFC cuts you, and now guess what? You have made a total of … $60,000 your entire career, and you have no other option because you can’t be a part-time fighter. You’ve got to be full-time.

“So now you’re a 24-year-old man looking yourself in the mirror saying, ‘I spent my entire life doing this one thing and I’ve made $24,000, or $60,000. What do I do now? You go teach cardio kickboxing.

“And that’s, like, the damn shame of like most industry. It’s like you get kind of Weinstein-d. They put this big old f*cking UFC logo — and again, I love UFC, guys. I make more money in the UFC than f*cking, I mean, I am not a poor man, you guys. I would be in the rich category, which still f*cking shocks me every time I think about it. But they put this big old f*cking logo and you sell your f*cking soul for it. You sell your f*cking soul for it, man.”

‘Technical Difficulties’ Won’t Quiet the Middleweight champ

That’s where things were abruptly shut down on the UFC Fight Pass feed, but Strickland offered up a little bit more of the footage and his thoughts on Instagram.

“How many people in this sport end up not being poor after they’re done? And this isn’t NFL poor … they’re not gonna hear this sh*t. They’re not going to air this sh*t, but I’m just telling you how this f*cking goes.

“We’re not talking about, ‘Hey, I was in the NFL, I got paid millions of dollars, and I went and gambled on drugs and hookers.’ That’s not what we’re talking about. We’re talking on, I made $60,000. Now, what’s next? So when we talk about how much Don Fry made and goddamn, it’s shocking and how much most guys make.

“My advice to anybody, enjoy….”

In the caption on Instagram, Strickland made light of the “technical difficulties” and attempted to explain that his gripe over pay is not exclusive to the UFC.

“Think this was cut????” Strickland wrote. “‘They’re not going to air any of this’ technical difficulties lmao!!! This is an all-industry thing, Jeff Bezos can go build a rocket to go to space but can’t pay a couple more dollars. This isn’t a UFC thing, this an American thing, that’s what I was saying when the stream cut.”

It certainly seems like the UFC took it as a UFC thing.

MMA Fighting revealed that they had reached out to promotion for comment which has not yet been returned.

ONE Championship comes under fire, criticized for dismal fighter pay in leaked contract

ONE Championship criticized fighter pay 1,300 ONE Lumpinee eventA leaked ONE Championship contract for a bout agreement has caused anger within the MMA community due. Since being founded in 2011, One has carved out a decent piece of the pie in terms of the MMA space. They have developed their own stars, attracted big names to sign with them and have built a […]

ONE Championship criticized fighter pay 1,300 ONE Lumpinee event

A leaked ONE Championship contract for a bout agreement has caused anger within the MMA community due.

Since being founded in 2011, One has carved out a decent piece of the pie in terms of the MMA space. They have developed their own stars, attracted big names to sign with them and have built a solid fanbase, particularly in Asia. They also appeal to fans of the more traditional martial arts, putting fights on across different disciplines including Brazilian-jiu-jitsu, Muay Thai and kickboxing. 

However, while they have seemed like a good force in the space and could present themselves as competition for the UFC, a recent contract leak does not paint ONE Championship in a good light. 

The contract was for strawweight mixed-martial artist Anelya Toktogonova, who would be making her promotional debut against Aleksandra Sacicheva under the ONE Championship banner. The contract reveals she would be paid just $1300/$1300, meaning she would recent just thirteen-hundred to show and the same amount if she won.

While the UFC have come under heavy fire over the years for the fighter pay, the minimum contracts have been reported to be $12,000/$12,000.

While One brands itself as a more family friendly brand that is more true to the way of martial arts, this is just another example of the promotions recent actions that call into account their legitimacy. in august of last year, they would switch their business operations from Singapore to the Cayman Islands – a move that could be conclude to have been made due to the Islands having no income or withholding taxes.

One also recently sought after new investments and would receive several millions of dollars from Qatar Investment Authority. this investment authority is Qatar’s national sovereign wealth fund, which has invested billions into different sports in attempt to sport wash. The Qatar government has come under heavy scrutiny for their human rights violations and their treatment of LGBT community.

What do you make of the ONE Championship situation?

UFC Turns Over Record Revenues For 2022 Amidst Widespread Fighter Pay Debate

Endeavor, the UFC’s parent company, has revealed the record revenues generated by the MMA leader throughout 2022. With UFC and mixed martial arts still in its relative infancy, the sport is developing at a rapid rate. That trend has been consiste…

Endeavor, the UFC’s parent company, has revealed the record revenues generated by the MMA leader throughout 2022. With UFC and mixed martial arts still in its relative infancy, the sport is developing at a rapid rate. That trend has been consistently reflected in the growth of the UFC, the majority stake of which was acquired…

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