UFC Lightweights Clay Guida and Mark Bocek Are Not on the Same Side of This Whole TRT/Alistair Overeem Debate

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(In a rare misstep for Guida, he had no idea that the beer bong he was offered actually contained Four Loko. There were no survivors.) 

It seems that you can’t come across an MMA interview these days that doesn’t bring up the Alistair Overeem situation. The phrase “testosterone replacement therapy” has been thrown around in more MMA blogs within the past month than the name “Tim Tebow” on your average Sportscenter episode, and that’s saying something. Is it a coincidence that both phrases emphasize the “T” sound? We think not.

Being the laid back, no worries, Winnebago-loving kind of guy that Clay Guida is, he was much more willing to forgive Overeem when speaking to MMAWeekly about the situation yesterday, believing that a lot of the blame should be placed on that of his coaches. And in case you’re wondering, he managed to relate the situation to the lion-esque mange that sits atop his head:

Yeah, Alistair not knowing that there is testosterone in his vitamins, is like me not knowing what kind of conditioner I’m putting in my hair. I’m not going to put the complete blame on him, I’m going to put it on his coaches, and, maybe not his team necessarily, but his trainer and this and that and whoever maybe slipped him a Mickey or whatever you want to call it. I’m a fan of the guy, don’t get me wrong, but, I think they had plans elsewhere or whatever it may be, but, it’s a bummer that the main event in one of the biggest cards of the year is going to be kind of tampered with, just because you know, they got careless and maybe they didn’t have all the belief in themselves, so. I just stick with my regular stuff. The fruits and vegetables, fish oils, glucose and stuff like that you know? I’ve never been big on supplements on stuff like that you know? I just take natural stuff.

Fish oil, eh? And here we thought he was drinking whiskey shooters and vodka cranberries this whole time.

It turns out that fellow lightweight contender Mark Bocek, ever the stickler, was not too pleased that Overeem received only 9 months for his botched surprise drug test, going as far as to say that any fighter needing TRT (or marijuana for that matter), shouldn’t be fighting in the first place:

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(In a rare misstep for Guida, he had no idea that the beer bong he was offered actually contained Four Loko. There were no survivors.) 

It seems that you can’t come across an MMA interview these days that doesn’t bring up the Alistair Overeem situation. The phrase “testosterone replacement therapy” has been thrown around in more MMA blogs within the past month than the name “Tim Tebow” on your average Sportscenter episode, and that’s saying something. Is it a coincidence that both phrases emphasize the “T” sound? We think not.

Being the laid back, no worries, Winnebago-loving kind of guy that Clay Guida is, he was much more willing to forgive Overeem when speaking to MMAWeekly about the situation yesterday, believing that a lot of the blame should be placed on that of his coaches. And in case you’re wondering, he managed to relate the situation to the lion-esque mange that sits atop his head:

Yeah, Alistair not knowing that there is testosterone in his vitamins, is like me not knowing what kind of conditioner I’m putting in my hair. I’m not going to put the complete blame on him, I’m going to put it on his coaches, and, maybe not his team necessarily, but his trainer and this and that and whoever maybe slipped him a Mickey or whatever you want to call it. I’m a fan of the guy, don’t get me wrong, but, I think they had plans elsewhere or whatever it may be, but, it’s a bummer that the main event in one of the biggest cards of the year is going to be kind of tampered with, just because you know, they got careless and maybe they didn’t have all the belief in themselves, so. I just stick with my regular stuff. The fruits and vegetables, fish oils, glucose and stuff like that you know? I’ve never been big on supplements on stuff like that you know? I just take natural stuff.

Fish oil, eh? And here we thought he was drinking whiskey shooters and vodka cranberries this whole time.

It turns out that fellow lightweight contender Mark Bocek, ever the stickler, was not too pleased that Overeem received only 9 months for his botched surprise drug test, going as far as to say that any fighter needing TRT (or marijuana for that matter), shouldn’t be fighting in the first place:

There’s definitely got to be some type of punishment. You can put any twist on it want. I’m no doctor, I just think if your doctor’s telling you you need to be on TRT and you need to be on medical marijuana, you shouldn’t be fighting.  He wasn’t under license at the time, he’s trying to flee the building over another series of testing, it makes you wonder about everyone else. I would think one year punishment for a guy like Overeem.

I think it’s a problem in every division. I think it’s just kind of become part of the sport. Definitely random testing could change or fix that. As you see with Overeem, he really wasn’t expecting that but it’s a part of any sport really. Any Olympic sport as well.

Although I personally disagree with Bocek’s stance on marijuana use in MMA — it in no way affects an MMA fighter’s performance, nor should it matter what a fighter does to ensure his own mental well-being in the off-season — you can’t deny that random drug testing would be the cure-all for these repeated infractions of the rules. Like Guida said, Overeem’s ignorance hits the fans, especially those who purchased tickets to UFC 146 prior to Overeem’s drug test debacle, the hardest, unless they’re die hard Frank Mir fans, of course. And if the Zuffa brass is worried about possible fighter backlash, we imagine Hector Lombard would quickly volunteer for the role of D.A.R.E officer.

Whose side are you on, Potato Nation?

-J. Jones

Friday Afternoon Link Dump

(Video courtesy of YouTube/HDNet)

– 10 Ways to Gain Muscle (Men’s Fitness)

– PEDs in MMA: Amid TRT Controversy, A Hidden Danger (MMA Fighting)

– Ultimate Treadmills Fail Compilation (Worldwide Interweb)

– Infographoc: The Cost of Don Draper’s Life Today (Made Man)

– Indonesian 8-Year-Old Smokes a Pack a Day (Turd Ferguson Blog)

– An Incomplete Guide to Michael Bay’s Ridiculousness (Screen Junkies)

– Nick Offerman’s Amazing Workshop (BREAK)

– Lindsay Lohan’s Lawyer Plagiarized Her Dumb Lawsuit (Film Drunk)

– Who Said It, Don Draper or Tupac Shakur? (Clutch MTV)

– Fedor Likely Headed to Super Fight League Next (Fighters Only)

– Wand: I’m From the Streets and Vitor Lives In Disneyland (Bleacher Report)

– A Cure For Baldness, Man Boobs, And Other Dude Problems (Holy Taco)

– Five Questions Stemming From the Broncos’ Signing of Peyton Manning (Scores Report)


(Video courtesy of YouTube/HDNet)

– 10 Ways to Gain Muscle (Men’s Fitness)

– PEDs in MMA: Amid TRT Controversy, A Hidden Danger (MMA Fighting)

– Ultimate Treadmills Fail Compilation (Worldwide Interweb)

– Infographoc: The Cost of Don Draper’s Life Today (Made Man)

– Indonesian 8-Year-Old Smokes a Pack a Day (Turd Ferguson Blog)

– An Incomplete Guide to Michael Bay’s Ridiculousness (Screen Junkies)

– Nick Offerman’s Amazing Workshop (BREAK)

– Lindsay Lohan’s Lawyer Plagiarized Her Dumb Lawsuit (Film Drunk)

– Who Said It, Don Draper or Tupac Shakur? (Clutch MTV)

– Fedor Likely Headed to Super Fight League Next (Fighters Only)

– Wand: I’m From the Streets and Vitor Lives In Disneyland (Bleacher Report)

– A Cure For Baldness, Man Boobs, And Other Dude Problems (Holy Taco)

– Five Questions Stemming From the Broncos’ Signing of Peyton Manning (Scores Report)

Chael Sonnen (Sort of) Addresses TRT Use on Last Night’s ‘MMA Uncensored’ [VIDEO]


(“Taking testosterone is no different than Flintstone vitamins. Ask Cris Santos.”)

Chael Sonnen made a stop by SPIKE TV last night and sort of addressed his TRT use exemption and the suspension he received following his UFC 117 title fight with Anderson Silva for failing to disclose to California State Athletic Commission officials that he took the hormone prior to the bout.

Host Craig Carton segued into the topic while they were discussing Quinton “Rampage” Jackson’s recent revelation that he is on the youth tonic as well. Sonnen was quick to point out that there are plenty of other substances that are better performance-enhancing-wise, but then denied that testosterone was a performance enhancer. Classic contradictory and convoluted Chael.

“There’s two things there. Hold on. If you’re gonna associate the guy with TRT, make sure you also associate the fact that it’s legal and it’s not banned. Second thing with TRT is people are really getting confused. They look at TRT and they’re missing the stuff that really is good,” Sonnen explained. “TRT is eight, nine, 10 on the list of things that a person could take to help their careers go along. Secondly, any time a person says ‘performance enhancer,’ stop talking to them, because they don’t have the intellect to debate with you.”


(“Taking testosterone is no different than Flintstone vitamins. Ask Cris Santos.”)

Chael Sonnen made a stop by SPIKE TV last night and sort of addressed his TRT use exemption and the suspension he received following his UFC 117 title fight with Anderson Silva for failing to disclose to California State Athletic Commission officials that he took the hormone prior to the bout.

Host Craig Carton segued into the topic while they were discussing Quinton “Rampage” Jackson’s recent revelation that he is on the youth tonic as well. Sonnen was quick to point out that there are plenty of other substances that are better performance-enhancing-wise, but then denied that testosterone was a performance enhancer. Classic contradictory and convoluted Chael.

“There’s two things there. Hold on. If you’re gonna associate the guy with TRT, make sure you also associate the fact that it’s legal and it’s not banned. Second thing with TRT is people are really getting confused. They look at TRT and they’re missing the stuff that really is good,” Sonnen explained. “TRT is eight, nine, 10 on the list of things that a person could take to help their careers go along. Secondly, any time a person says ‘performance enhancer,’ stop talking to them, because they don’t have the intellect to debate with you.”

Then “The Gangster from America” went on to say that he wouldn’t take a substance if it didn’t better his performance.

“I wanna make this point: I would never take anything, ever,  if I didn’t think it would help my performance,” Chael said. “That’s what medicine is in 21st century America. Imagine if you go to the doctor and say, ‘Doc, I’m feeling great. You got anything that can bring me down a notch?’ That’s malpractice. It’s all meant to help your performance.”

So what is it, is T a performance enhancer or not? Carton believes it is when the athlete has enhanced levels of it in his or her system when they compete, and he calls Chael on it since his levels were curiously high for the Silva fight.

“No, no, no. Absolutely not. Not only did I not take more of it [before the fight], I was never even accused of that. Josh Gross, who’s incompetent beyond measure, went on ESPN and said that I did, so it became my reality, so I went with it,” he pointed out. “I was never even accused of that. The final thought it this: Is it legal or is it not legal? If a person’s taking a legal substance, that’s the end of the conversation. Testosterone is legal.”

So Josh Gross and Kenny Rice are now on Chael’s “do not talk to” list. It’s a pretty safe bet that Carton will be added to it now too, especially after cracking a joke that Sonnen tested for higher test levels than an elephant for the fight.

“You’re makin’ that up. You’re sounding a lot like Josh Gross. You absolutely did not [see the test results]. [CSAC]  is a government agency. I was extremely transparent. I was never even accused of [taking too much testosterone before the fight],” Sonnen corrected. “Josh Gross reported that. It was a non-disclosure issue. I don’t know how they would have handled it [if I had won the title], because at the end of the day I was punished.”

Thankfully the UFC didn’t have to cross that bridge. Having to call Anderson in to Zuffa HQ so Dana could hand him a big fancily wrapped package to open with the belt in it would have been awkward, especially when everyone jumped out and yelled, “Surprise!!!” It would have made for an entertaining video blog by Dana, though.

Friday Afternoon Link Dump

(Video courtesy of SI.com)

– The 20 Funniest Martial Arts Glamor Photos (WorldWideInterweb)

– 9 Things Bad Personal Trainers Say (MadeMan)

– 8 Things You Shouldn’t Do If You’re Dating Casually (Guyism)

– Will Ferrell Is Putting The ‘Step Brothers’ Sequel At The Top Of His To-Do List (ScreenJunkies)

– Aaron Landry’s Ridiculous Workout (BuzzerBeat)

– Crazy Couple Pranks Each Other While Sleeping (Break)

– Why Does George Lopez Keep Getting TV Shows? (TuVez)

– What to Do When You Hate Her Friends (AskMen)

– Brass Tacks Infographic: Danny DeVito (Clutch.MTV)

– Resident Evil ORC First Gameplay Trailer (TheRugged)

– 3D Chinese Porn to Get Sequel in 4D…Wait…What?! (FilmDrunk)

– Dana White Comments on TRT Use and Drug Testing (FightersOnly)

– Reasons to Watch UFC on FX 2 (BleacherReport)

– 25 Ridiculous Lip Tattoos (HolyTaco)


(Video courtesy of SI.com)

– The 20 Funniest Martial Arts Glamor Photos (WorldWideInterweb)

– 9 Things Bad Personal Trainers Say (MadeMan)

– 8 Things You Shouldn’t Do If You’re Dating Casually (Guyism)

– Will Ferrell Is Putting The ‘Step Brothers’ Sequel At The Top Of His To-Do List (ScreenJunkies)

– Aaron Landry’s Ridiculous Workout (BuzzerBeat)

– Crazy Couple Pranks Each Other While Sleeping (Break)

– Why Does George Lopez Keep Getting TV Shows? (TuVez)

– What to Do When You Hate Her Friends (AskMen)

– Brass Tacks Infographic: Danny DeVito (Clutch.MTV)

– Resident Evil ORC First Gameplay Trailer (TheRugged)

– 3D Chinese Porn to Get Sequel in 4D…Wait…What?! (FilmDrunk)

– Dana White Comments on TRT Use and Drug Testing (FightersOnly)

– Reasons to Watch UFC on FX 2 (BleacherReport)

– 25 Ridiculous Lip Tattoos (HolyTaco)

Rampage Jackson Is About to Release a Song About Hitting It From the Back, You Guys


(This is what he means by “off-the-chain doggy-style.”)

I’m sorry, but there are times when you have to break your own ban. This is one of those times. In a new interview with Fighters Only, Quinton Jackson discusses how testosterone replacement therapy turned his life around, though it caused him to gain a bunch of water weight that contributed to his UFC 144 scale-fail. And then he dropped this bit of info (via Fightlinker):

I’m in a studio — you know I make music as a hobby — I am in the studio right now with my friend who produced all my tracks. We made a big hit actually, people will be really surprised when I release this because I have been making music for like six or seven years but never released anything. Now I am finally comfortable to actually release something. I was depressed yesterday but then we made this hit last night and it immediately cheered me up because normally I make music just for a hobby, I never release it, its just for me to enjoy. But this song cheered me up in my hard times right now and I think my fans can get some enjoyment out of it. It cheered me up if they don’t like it I don’t give a fuck. I’m the king of doggy style.”

No arguments there. But how does hormone replacement therapy figure into this story? Well…


(This is what he means by “off-the-chain doggy-style.”)

I’m sorry, but there are times when you have to break your own ban. This is one of those times. In a new interview with Fighters Only, Quinton Jackson discusses how testosterone replacement therapy turned his life around, though it caused him to gain a bunch of water weight that contributed to his UFC 144 scale-fail. And then he dropped this bit of info (via Fightlinker):

I’m in a studio — you know I make music as a hobby — I am in the studio right now with my friend who produced all my tracks. We made a big hit actually, people will be really surprised when I release this because I have been making music for like six or seven years but never released anything. Now I am finally comfortable to actually release something. I was depressed yesterday but then we made this hit last night and it immediately cheered me up because normally I make music just for a hobby, I never release it, its just for me to enjoy. But this song cheered me up in my hard times right now and I think my fans can get some enjoyment out of it. It cheered me up if they don’t like it I don’t give a fuck. I’m the king of doggy style.”

No arguments there. But how does hormone replacement therapy figure into this story? Well…

[T]his was my first time ever using testosterone. I took what the doctor prescribed to me and I went to the pharmacy…I gave myself small doses and that shit immediately changed me, that’s why I am saying now I am not going to retire. I am not gonna retire no time soon, its just unfortunate that I got this injury. I started hitting it up pretty good, I still gotta take care of my knee but I feel like a 25 year old again. My sex life changed, I was back to five times a night like when I was 25, straight up…

I keep it real, I am not doing anything wrong. Its legal and I am not abusing it and I am not going over certain levels. From what I learned about it, when I got tested my levels my levels were really low and the doctor was telling me that athletes can burn testosterone. Sure enough I did it like a week or two and, I couldn’t train but…that’s why I did this song about doggy style! My doggy style was buck wild man I’m telling you.”

Hear that, kids? TRT will make you a musical genius. And believe it or not, Rampage actually performed his music in Tokyo after his fight with Ryan Bader:

Because I’ve been rapping and stuff for a while and I am putting together this album that I’ve been working on for a while and the producer is really serious about the music; to me its just a hobby but he is really serious so he scheduled something for me to do like a concert in one of the biggest clubs in Roppongi [nightclub district]. Me and my friend who taught me how to rap like six or seven years ago. A lot of American fans won’t know that I nearly had a record deal with Pride, the company that ran Pride was called DreamStage and they did fights, movies and music…It’s my life and my career and I want to have fun and entertain people.

So yeah I did a concert same night, it didn’t affect my mentality one bit. Win or lose I still want to enjoy myself because my job is done. I didn’t bail out because I lost, I think that’s a pussy move. I enjoyed myself, I had my champagne and I put on a show. They were so surprised I could rap. I entertained them twice in one night in two different ways. Now a Japanese company wants to…well I’m not going to say yet. But I am getting offers from Japan because of that concert and so it was a win out of my loss.”

Just from his description, Rampage’s new music sounds like it’ll be a cross between prime 2 Live Crew and Sapp Time. The album will be called “A.L.F.A. (Appreciate Large Female Asses),” and the new single “Doggy Style” will feature cameo appearances by Too $hort and Arianny Celeste in a non-singing role.

Ask the Potato: Injuries, TRT and Crossover Athletes


You know, Potato Nation, Coleman just really likes potatoes. I mean, I know that’s not profound or nothin’. Heck! We all do…but for him, it goes much more beyond that.

So how many of you all came here last weekend only to be disappointed by the lack of answers to your seemingly endless questions? Maybe we’re getting too far ahead of ourselves, so let’s start over: How many of you noticed that we didn’t run a new edition of Ask the Potato last week? We just saw at least three hands go up, so we’re going to assume that the rest of you are just too shy to respond. We’re keeping it short and sweet and to the point this week, much unlike this sentence, so let’s get down to business.

KarmaAteMyCat asks: What’s the most vicious injury you have ever seen in MMA to date?


You know, Potato Nation, Coleman just really likes potatoes. I mean, I know that’s not profound or nothin’. Heck! We all do…but for him, it goes much more beyond that.

So how many of you all came here last weekend only to be disappointed by the lack of answers to your seemingly endless questions? Maybe we’re getting too far ahead of ourselves, so let’s start over: How many of you noticed that we didn’t run a new edition of Ask the Potato last week? We just saw at least three hands go up, so we’re going to assume that the rest of you are just too shy to respond. We’re keeping it short and sweet and to the point this week, much unlike this sentence, so let’s get down to business.

KarmaAteMyCat asks: What’s the most vicious injury you have ever seen in MMA to date?

Injuries are pretty common in this sport, particularly if you’re a champion. From swollen heads to flayed feet, we’d like to think we’ve seen it all over the years. But of all the limbs to snap inside the cage, our nominee has a clear leg up on the competition. Just seconds into the second round of their UFC: Fight for the Troops bout, Dale Hartt checked a leg kick from Corey Hill, instantly transforming his tibia and fibula into giant sticks of Laffy Taffy. Unlike Joe Theismann’s famous injury, there was no sock or pant leg to shield viewers from the sight of his twisted, mangled leg. Another key difference: Hill returned to competition only one year later; in fact, he just racked up a win last week. Think there’s a more deserving injury? We’re all ear!

Giblets asks: TRT – Really a medical issue or a loop hole for gear monkeys?

We’re hack journalists, Giblets, not doctors. But that doesn’t stop us from performing breast exams or doling out pills behind the neighborhood 7-Eleven, and it sure as hell isn’t going to stop us from answering your question.

Testosterone is a hormone responsible for increasing bone and muscle mass as well as stimulating aggressive behavior. Now where is the last place you would expect to find a large number of men suffering from a serious testosterone deficiency? If you said “inside the Octagon”, you’re wrong. The answer is Lilith Fair–low testosterone or not, no man wants to listen to that garbage. But competing in an MMA fight is a close second, so don’t feel bad about your answer. We’re hardly authorities on the matter, so check out what the very knowledgeable Dr. Johnny Benjamin has to say on the issue. And when even Nate Marquardt’s coach thinks the therapy has no place in the sport, you’ve got to know that something’s up.

RwilsonR asks: If any athlete from any other sport, from any generation, could cross over succesfully to MMA, who would it be and why? Is it this man?

Bo Jackson was certainly one hell of an athlete in his prime. As was Herschel Walker who, in case you forgot, has had success in this sport. Really, there are plenty of exceptional athletes who may have been MMA fighters today if the sport had been around when they were first getting into sports (and even at least one college football coach).

But we’re going to take the easy route and pick someone who actually competed in combat sports before MMA was around. Given the trend of dominant wrestlers finding success in MMA, we imagine that any of your great wrestlers from yesteryear would have had successful MMA careers if the sport was around while they were in their prime. Specifically, we’ll go with Sports Illustrated’s pick for the greatest athlete to ever hail from Iowa, Dan Gable.

Dan Gable was an absolute wrecking ball in his prime, having lost only one match in his entire collegiate career (his last match, against Washington’s Larry Owings). Of course, that was just his opening act: He would go on to win a gold medal at the 1972 Olympic Games while not giving up a single point. So yeah, we imagine he would have wrestlefucked his way to a hell of a career in MMA, if it was an option for him.

One final thing worth mentioning: After retiring from competition in 1975, Dan Gable decided he wasn’t done dominating college wrestling, so he became the head coach at the University of Iowa. During his tenure from 1976–1997, Iowa won 15 NCAA team titles, including a record nine straight titles from 1978 to 1986 and 21 straight Big Ten titles. Had MMA been around, we imagine that he’d start a gym that would rival any of the top gyms today.

That’s all for now, folks. Tune in next week as we answer even more of your (hopefully at least kind of) MMA related questions. You know the drill: You can send us questions through our Facebook page. You can tweet them to our Twitter account, as well as hashtag questions with #AskThePotato. You can register for our forums and post your questions there. Or you can just post them in the comments section of this article. And we still check that Google+ page we set up. Not that we want questions from that thing, we just feel like bragging.