The Truth About Fighters and Sponsors

Filed under: UFC, StrikeforceTo the fan, it’s just logos. It’s background scenery, hardly worth noticing.

It’s a shirt some fighter wears to the cage and then struggles to pull back on to his sweaty torso in time for the post-fight interview. It’s a …

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Cain VelasquezTo the fan, it’s just logos. It’s background scenery, hardly worth noticing.

It’s a shirt some fighter wears to the cage and then struggles to pull back on to his sweaty torso in time for the post-fight interview. It’s a banner his cornermen unfurl behind him during the pre-fight introductions. It’s a website on the seat of his shorts.

You see it, even if you never think about it. But because you see it, because you’re watching, fighters are getting paid. They might make anywhere from a couple grand that’s barely worth mentioning after their manager takes a 20 percent cut, to hundreds of thousands of dollars on an endorsement deal that will change their lives forever.

For many fighters, sponsor money means everything. It’s the difference between prospering and just getting by. It’s something they talk about among themselves, but rarely in public. It’s the hidden undercurrent of the MMA economy.

As fighter agent Lex McMahon explained, “Younger guys who are just starting out in their careers and are in their first contract with the UFC, they’re probably making quite a bit more in sponsors than they are from fighting.”

We understand why they do it, but I also can’t, in good conscience, pay that.
— Nick Palmisciano on Zuffa’s discretionary sponsor tax
All this, just to reach you, the fan, who hardly gives any of it a second thought. Is it worth it? That depends on who you ask. Do fighters depend on it for their financial well-being? Absolutely. And as you learn when you take a closer look, it’s a complex economy buzzing with frenzied activity behind the scenes of every MMA event you watch.

The Cost

If you’re a company looking to sponsor a UFC fighter, the hit to your pocketbook varies depending on everything from the fame and popularity of the fighter you’re doing business with to the location of your logo. Walk-out T-shirts can be among the most expensive items, sometimes edging into the six-figure range, while a small decal on the thigh of his shorts might only run you a couple thousand dollars.

“Where you want the placement depends on how much you want to pay,” said Training Mask CEO Casey Danford, who added that he usually prefers to put his logo on the rear of the shorts when sponsoring a wrestler, and on the crotch when sponsoring a striker.

“Sometimes guys come to us because their sponsors got kicked out of the UFC or because they took a fight last minute and don’t have any other sponsors,” Danford said. “That does happen. On the last-minute deals, it’s not like we’re giving them top dollar, because they’re coming to us at the last minute. We work with the fighters and they work with us, because they know that two weeks before a fight, most of our budget is already used up.”

The UFC requires fighters to get prior approval for every sponsor they intend to represent on their shorts and banners — hence the threat of being “kicked out” — but just to get the right to be seen on a UFC broadcast most companies pay a fee to the UFC — the discretionary sponsor “tax” that was also recently instituted in Strikeforce after Zuffa bought the promotion.

While few sponsors or agents wanted to discuss actual figures on the record, most put the cost of the tax at about $50,000 per year for the majority of apparel and supplement companies in the UFC, though the fee has been known to vary according to the sponsor and the situation, sources said.

That sponsorship fee alone recently chased military-themed clothier Ranger Up out of the fight night sponsorship business. Despite his company’s long-standing relationship with Strikeforce fighter and Army Green Beret Tim Kennedy, Ranger Up’s Nick Palmisciano said he couldn’t justify the cost of putting a logo on Kennedy’s shorts for his recent Strikeforce bout with Robbie Lawler.

“A lot of people were fired up about this, but we’re not in any way angry at Zuffa at all,” Palmisciano said. “We understand why they do it, but I also can’t, in good conscience, pay that.”

The companies who can afford to pay [the sponsorship tax], usually you have less risk with them, because you know they’re a better capitalized company.
— Dean Albrecht
Since Palmisciano’s company sponsors relatively few fighters, he explained, the potential benefit just didn’t justify the cost. Six months might go by without a single one of his guys fighting, but he’d still be required to pay the tax for that period.

“When you think about what that tax costs us per fighter as opposed to what it costs another brand like Dethrone, who’s sponsoring two, three, four fighters every event, for us there’s almost no return on in-fight sponsorship,” Palmisciano said.

The effect of the tax is and will continue to be most noticeable on Strikeforce cards, according to many fighter agents and industry sponsors. While it might be worth it for some companies to pay the fee in order to reach the larger UFC audience, the smaller viewerships for Strikeforce on Showtime aren’t necessarily valuable enough to justify the expense for many others, meaning Strikeforce fighters take a big hit in sponsor pay.

At the same time, according to fighter agent Dean Albrecht, there are benefits to Zuffa’s sponsor tax, even if it shrinks the pool of available sponsors.

“Not all up-and-coming companies can afford to pay [the tax],” Albrecht said. “But the companies who can afford to pay it, usually you have less risk with them, because you know they’re a better capitalized company. So believe it or not, the UFC in effect is protecting the fighters by putting a monetary entry fee to the sponsorship game. Before, when anybody could sponsor a guy, you’d have companies not paying and that hurts everybody.”

In fact, in the days before the tax, non-payment was more of an issue, according to both sponsors and managers. Most of the deals are constructed so that sponsors pay after the fights rather than before, and some were offering more money to fighters than they actually had, betting that they’d sell enough merchandise in the weeks following the fight to come up with the fighter’s fee.

Ken Clement, co-owner of MMA equipment manufacturer Hayabusa, said the tax has largely chased those companies out of the sponsorship game. Before, Clement said “we actually had managers come to us and say, ‘Hey, do you know what happened to this company? They owe us money.'”

Part of the problem, he added, is that some companies have unrealistic expectations to go with their pricey sponsorship goals.

“Some of these companies think they’re going to come in here and get these huge, immediate results, and that’s their plan for how they’re eventually going to pay these guys,” said Clement. “A lot of them are agreeing to deals that they’re never going to be able to afford to pay. The UFC putting that tax into place is like, if you can’t afford to pay that tax, you’re probably not going to be able to pay your fighters.”

The Benefit

One thing every MMA sponsor seems to agree on is that getting your logo seen on a UFC broadcast does not, by any means, guarantee sales or success. Exactly what it does accomplish is a matter of some debate, with results proving difficult to measure.

“It’s trackable, but it’s very hard to be objective,” Hayabysa’s Clement said. “It’s the simple question of how many fans watching the UFC saw your logo and recognized it, and of those, who cares? …It can be looked at quantitatively, but there’s a lot of guesswork involved.”

As Ranger Up’s Palmisciano put it, if you’re looking for a simple equation where you spend a certain amount on a fight night sponsorship and make more than that in sales immediately afterward, you’re in the wrong game.

“I think one of the reasons you see so many of these companies failing is because they come into this business thinking, I’m just going to sponsor as many fighters as I can and people will see my stuff and start buying my shirts. It’s just not true,” Palmisciano said. “I’ll tell you honestly, the uptick [in sales] from any fighter wearing our shirt in the cage does not ever make up for how much we pay that fighter. Ever.”

But according to fighter agent Dean Albrecht, it all depends on what a company’s specific goals are. The way he sees it, there are three distinct levels: advertising, sponsorship, and endorsement.

“The lowest level is advertising,” said Albrecht. “For example, I’ve got a guy who’s going to be on the main card for UFC 135. I can sell you a patch on his shorts on the butt, the thighs, or the crotch, or I can sell you his hat or his shirt. Now, there’s probably going to be around 800,000 pay-per-view buys, they estimate about an average of ten people [watching every buy], so there’s around eight million people. But we can’t tell you whether your ad’s going to last thirty seconds or fifteen minutes.”

Advertising is exactly what Training Mask is after, according to Danford. Instead of getting into long-term contracts with tiered pay structures, he prefers to sign one-fight deals for flat fees, all designed to get his company’s logo in front of potential customers. And because that’s what he’s after, that’s also a big part of deciding which fighters he chooses to sponsor.

“You’ve got to think, we’re buying advertising space,” Danford said. “So do I want to see a guy end the fight in 20 seconds? Absolutely not. It happens, but that’s not what we’d like to see. Whether I’m paying $3,000 or $15,000, I don’t want to see the guy get knocked out in 30 seconds. I want to see the fight go 15 minutes.”

Because Danford’s product is also aimed at serious athletes with the promise of improving their conditioning, he also tries to choose fighters whose cardio works as an advertisement for the product.

Of course, he added, “you don’t know if you’re winning or losing when you pick these guys.” When UFC heavyweight Roy Nelson turned in a sloppy performance against Frank Mir, for example, it wasn’t a great help to have Training Mask written across his shorts. But when Chris Lytle went three hard rounds with Dan Hardy before submitting him in his memorable farewell fight, it was an unexpected boost.

“I don’t question the exposure,” Danford said. “We’re building a brand. Any time you’re building a brand, you’ve got to have it in front of people. It’s like Tiger Woods and Nike. Nike’s not in your face the whole time, but as the ball slowly drops into the hole, there’s that Nike swoosh and you know Nike was there for that moment. With Chris Lytle, there’s his last fight and we were there. We didn’t know going in that it was going to be his last fight, but we were there.”

But other companies, such as Hayabusa, don’t see the benefit in simply using a fighter as advertising alone. What it’s after is more in the category of sponsorship, supporting a few key fighters over a longer period of time. The idea, according to co-owner Clement, is that those fighters will also become ambassadors for the products in the gym, where they’ll be reaching the audience Hayabusa is really after.

“They’re the sneezers,” Clement said. “They’re influencing all the guys around them who want to reach that elite level. The other guys in the academy are looking at him and thinking, how can I get to that level?”

That’s why, according to Clement, a Hayabusa fighter like Yoshihiro Akiyama, who has now lost three straight in the UFC, is in no danger of losing his deal with them simply because he’s fallen on hard times. An advertiser might jump from one fighter to another, but Clement explained, “We’ve been supporting [Akiyama] for a long time, and there’s a relationship there. It’s not like we’re going to drop him because he loses.”

We want to kind of build that value where, when they show past highlights of a fighter, he’s wearing Dethrone for every fight.
— Nick Swinmurn
Sponsorship deals typically cost a company more than simple advertisement and require more of a commitment, but for fighters and their agents, the big money is in endorsement, which sits at the top of Albrecht’s hierarchy of sponsor arrangements

“There’s a premium for that, it’s exclusive, and you’re expecting that guy to be a spokesperson for you,” said Albrecht. “He’ll do appearances, and you can expect him to only wear your stuff. If he’s with you, he’s wearing your stuff when he’s out and about, he’s wearing it into the cage, he’s wearing it when he’s at after-parties. That’s endorsement.”

That’s what clothing maker Dethrone Royalty is after, and also why it works with a select few fighters and keeps them draped in Dethrone shirts no matter where they are. According to founder Nick Swinmurn, Dethrone also makes a conscious effort to find its fighters before they’re stars.

“We have big names now, but we started with them back when they were on their first televised cards, not big names at all,” said Swinmurn, who started Dethrone after founding online shoe retailer Zappos. “Our strategy from the beginning was, we don’t want to be that brand where we’re on the guy who’s wearing a different shirt for every fight. We wanted to kind of build that value where, when they show past highlights of a fighter, he’s wearing Dethrone for every fight.”

Of course, there’s another benefit to locking a young fighter into a long-term endorsement deal early in his career, Albrecht pointed out, especially if you have reason to believe that he’s going to become a star in a hurry.

“Some companies are really smart with who they pick, and they lock them up while they’re coming up,” said Albrecht. “They say, we’re going to get this kid for $4,000 a month, and for the first six or seven months it’s going to seem like a deal. It’s going to look like you’re overspending for him. Then all of a sudden, he’s two fights away from a title shot and you’ve got a one-year option on your deal. You exercise that option, and you might have a champion for the same price as an up-and-comer, or maybe just a little bit more.”

The Pitch

When you talk to fighter agents about the pursuit of willing sponsors, you hear a lot about establishing cooperative relationships and ensuring value for both sides. When you talk to the sponsors themselves, you sometimes get a different story.

“A lot of the managers try to coax you into doing stuff that you don’t want to do,” said Training Mask CEO Danford. “They’ll tell you, ‘For this much we’ll give you plugs on Twitter and one on Facebook.’ That’s stuff they should be doing anyway.”

Some, said Dethrone’s Swinmurn, are simply hard to pin down on a price.

“If I call up a manager and say, ‘I’m interested in this guy, how much is it?’ their job is to be able to say, ‘It’s this.’ But I’ve known some managers, and there’s a couple who are notorious for it, where you just can’t get a straight answer out of them,” Swinmurn said. “You ask how much and they say, ‘Make us an offer.'”

Others will simply oversell their sponsorship space, creating too much clutter and drowning out any single sponsor’s message. That’s particularly troubling for a sponsor like Hayabusa, which is in the rare position of actually having its product used during the fight. That is, if anyone can tell through the sea of other logos.

“You get some management companies where it’s the NASCAR effect. He’s got so many logos on there, you don’t know what he’s wearing anymore,” said Ken Clement. “It could be Hayabusa shorts, but you have no idea.”

In order to convince wary sponsors that they’re getting good value for their money, managers and agents have to get creative. That’s why Albrecht said he gives each sponsor a monthly spreadsheet detailing the exposure they got from each fighter, across every conceivable medium.

“I get every MMA magazine out there,” Albrecht said. “We watch all the shows. I have people that work for me who will sit there with a stopwatch and time how long your logo is on TV. They’ll also go through every magazine this month and clip out anywhere where your logo appeared. Then we’ll go through the top six MMA websites and see how many times your logo appears in photos.”

As Albrecht explained, the benefit of sponsorship isn’t limited solely to fight night. Whenever a website uses a photo of a fighter that includes a sponsor logo on his shorts or T-shirt, there’s value in that.

“For example, I represent Rory MacDonald and I’ll look at how many websites showed his picture wearing his sponsor logos, then look at how much it would cost me to put an ad on that website,” said Albrecht, who estimated that roughly half of MacDonald’s annual income is derived from sponsorship deals.

MacDonald’s name was mentioned by just about every sponsor I talked to as an example of an ideal fighter to support. He’s young, rising quickly through the ranks (though not yet commanding top dollar), and his personality outside of the cage doesn’t make him a potential liability.

The real value of having a fighter on that FOX main card is going to be getting those sponsors that want to be on FOX anyway, but aren’t MMA sponsors.
— Lex McMahon
Others have certain built-in barriers that agents have to work around.

For example, a fighter who has struggled publicly with legal or personal problems might not be someone every company wants to put its name on. Some, Albrecht said, are simply too irresponsible or mercurial to be the kind of guy a company can depend on to show up at a major event, smiling like he actually wants to be there.

“Some guys can do it. They show up and you wish you’d hired them to be president of your company,” Albrecht said. “Other guys, that’s just not who they are.”

Other fighters, Albrecht added, simply won’t do certain things.

“Miguel Torres, for instance, will not wear a [sponsor] hat,” said Albrecht, who added that the former WEC 135-pound champ and proud mullet owner once turned down $10,000 to wear a sponsor’s baseball cap for the brief walk to the cage.

But not everything is based on personality. Some is based purely on exposure, which is why agents are so grateful that the UFC has continued to find new ways of making sure each fight gets seen.

A few years ago it was only the main card of a pay-per-view, plus a couple quick undercard fights (time permitting) that made it onto TV. Now, with undercard bouts aired on Spike TV and prelims streamed live on Facebook, there’s no such thing as a dark match on a UFC card.

“Certain companies are embracing [the Facebook fights] more than others,” said agent Lex McMahon, who added that it’s still unclear what the Facebook exposure is worth.

“A fight that was previously dark is now getting seen by potentially millions of people. It may take time for the industry to sort out and assign that a value, but it will happen,” McMahon said. “It just hasn’t really happened yet.”

As with any new medium, some companies value it more than others, and some say they actually prefer to sponsor fighters on the Facebook fights. For one thing, McMahon pointed out, prelim fighters usually demand a significantly lower price tag than those in the main event. But it’s not just about bargain-shopping, he said.

“Maybe I’m a company that has a call to action in my ad that takes someone to a website. Someone at a fight or watching at a sports bar won’t be able to jump on a computer, but if you’re watching it on a computer, you’re a lot more likely to do it.”

The end result is not only more fights for fans, but more money for fighters. The UFC’s deal with FOX has the potential to do the same thing on an even greater level when it brings UFC fights to network TV, but in the end it may not jack up prices on existing sponsors the way many are expecting.

“MMA sponsors, they’ve already assigned value” to UFC events, McMahon said. “There’s some horse trading that goes on, but they have an idea of value that’s been already established.”

Instead, bringing fights to FOX could expand the pool of potential sponsors, giving agents more opportunities to sign new deals.

“The real value of having a fighter on that FOX main card is going to be getting those sponsors that want to be on FOX anyway, but aren’t MMA sponsors,” said McMahon. “Trust me, any manager worth his salt is already looking at the companies that sponsor heavily on FOX and are already looking at pitches for their guys, should they end up on a FOX card. I guarantee you we have.”

The Bottom Line

When fans look at the official reported payouts for any given event, they aren’t seeing a true accounting of what each fighter made. The UFC’s “locker room bonuses” aside, sponsor pay accounts for such a large portion of fighters’ income that most make at least as much from their sponsors as they do from the promotion that employs them.

As middleweight Tim Kennedy found out once Zuffa purchased Strikeforce and the tax left him suddenly without any sponsors, that’s a financial strategy that is not without risk.

“It’s a pretty gigantic problem,” he said before his fight with Robbie Lawler in June. “Half of my income was pretty much just [sponsors]. It’d be like, whatever your salary is at AOL, they said, ‘We’re just going to pay you half of that now.'”

The tax may have shrunken the pool of sponsors, but the increasing popularity of MMA and the UFC has led to higher payouts from those that are still in the game, said Albrecht.

“I’ve said for a couple years that it’s going to get tougher, but the numbers are going to get bigger. It’s going to get more crowded in the agency business, but the pay-off is going to get bigger.”

As McMahon explained, that’s the only way some fighters scrape by in their first few fights with the UFC, which requires full-time work to be successful, but doesn’t always pay full-time wages to prelim performers.

“Even though guys just starting out aren’t making a ton of money in that first contract, they can still make a decent living through sponsors, and it’s by virtue of being in the UFC and having that exposure,” said McMahon. “That’s worth a lot more to sponsors than being on a regional card that gets shown on HDNet. You’re in the best promotion in the world, and there’s some value that goes with that.”

In the end, the value comes from the fans, who probably put the least thought into the whole situation. They’re the ones who are the potential customers that every sponsor hopes to reach. As long as they’re watching, sponsors are paying. And as long as sponsors are paying, fighters (and agents) are smiling.

‘The Truth About’ is a recurring series on MMAFighting.com that takes an in-depth look at various aspects of the sport. For past installments, such as ‘The Truth About Fighting Hurt’ and ‘The Truth About Knowing When to Walk Away’ click here.

 

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Falling Action: Best and Worst of the Strikeforce Heavyweight Grand Prix

Filed under: StrikeforceStrikeforce delivered a full night of exciting fights in the latest installment of the World Heavyweight Grand Prix, but what did we learn once the dust had settled? To find out, we sort through Saturday night’s biggest winners,…

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Strikeforce delivered a full night of exciting fights in the latest installment of the World Heavyweight Grand Prix, but what did we learn once the dust had settled? To find out, we sort through Saturday night’s biggest winners, losers, and everything in between.

Biggest Winner: Daniel Cormier
The former Olympian got a few laughs at the pre-fight press conference by making it very clear that he didn’t mind winning a decision over “Bigfoot” Silva. Then he went out and demolished the much larger Brazilian with some punishing right hands, rocketing himself up the ranks and into the big time. The win proved not only that Cormier can hang with quality heavyweights, but also that his size isn’t necessarily a deal-breaker. There aren’t a whole lot of 5’11” heavyweights in the top ten, but when you’re as quick as Cormier — and when you have wrestling skills that allow you to do something other than stand at the end of a taller man’s reach — maybe it doesn’t matter. Now Cormier’s in a no-lose situation. Even if he gets beat by Barnett in the finals, it won’t be so devastating. It will be just his tenth pro fight, after all. If he wins, he’s the newest heavyweight superstar. Now let’s just hope that his hand injury isn’t too serious. The most disappointing possible outcome would be Strikeforce replacing him in the finals. It would also be the dumbest possible outcome, but more on that later.

Biggest Loser: Yoel Romero
The Cuban light heavyweight came into his undercard bout with “Feijao” Cavalcante looking like he had all the makings of a future star. Between his wrestling skills and his mini-Bobby Lashley physique, he seemed like someone who might be only a big win or two away from being thrust into the spotlight. But after a bizarre first round in which referee Dan Miragliotta actually called timeout so he could implore Romero to fight, he got knocked into the land of wind and ghosts by a brutal assault that left him stretched out on his back. That’s not the image you want to leave people with. Especially not after you just spent five minutes breakdancing. All in all, it was a bad night with a worse ending for Romero. Now it’s just a question of what he decides to do with it.

Most Consistent: Josh Barnett
When the Grand Prix bracket was first revealed it seemed like Barnett had the surest path to the finals. But then, between Fedor Emelianenko’s opening round loss and Alistair Overeem’s withdrawal, nothing in this tournament worked out the way it was supposed to. Nothing except Barnett, that is. He rolled right through his first two opponents and now he’s through to the finals with a minimum of cage time. Though everyone else derailed in one way or another, Barnett is pulling into the station right on schedule. He’s also keeping things interesting with his pro wrestling-style promos from time to time, and yet not overdoing it to the point where it becomes cloying. Basically, Barnett’s starting to look like he could be a valuable asset for the UFC. It’s just that history of failed drug tests and the contentious relationship with Dana White that stands in his way. The former has a lot to do with the latter, but all he can do now is play by the rules, make nice, and hope for the best.

Most Remarkable Recovery: Luke Rockhold
Several times in his middleweight title fight with “Jacare” Souza he got rocked by big right hands, but thanks to his mutant healing powers he was right back in it before Souza could capitalize. I still gave the slight edge to Souza in the bout, but it was close enough that I can absolutely see how you might score it 48-47 for Rockhold (though, 50-45? that’s just crazy talk). At least the title shake-up gives Strikeforce some much-needed options at middleweight, since Souza had already fought just about everyone there was in the division. Rockhold is probably looking at a fight with Tim Kennedy now, but whether he wins or loses, this is a problem that isn’t going away. The pool of contenders at 185 pounds is too small in Strikeforce. If they end up passing the title back and forth among each other, it won’t take long before fans lose all interest. Meanwhile, the UFC could sure use some new faces at middleweight now that Anderson Silva has demolished every credible contender. I have an idea for a solution that could benefit both parties…

Least Secure Future: (tie) Antonio Silva and Sergei Kharitonov
As we’ve already noted, fate has not been kind to the losers in the heavyweight Grand Prix thus far. At least Silva and Kharitonov made it into the semis before getting beat, but now what do you do with them? I suppose you could have them fight each other in some kind of third-place match, but that’s probably not going to excite the fan base all that much. In the end, Zuffa is still looking at two mid-level heavyweights who don’t speak much English. When the UFC eventually absorbs these guys (come on, we all know that’s what’s eventually going to happen) you have to wonder how much value it will see in Silva and Kharitonov. If they do meet each other, it might be in a bout that’s more of an audition than anything else.

Worst Idea, Even in Theory: Replacing Daniel Cormier
When Strikeforce’s Scott Coker said that the organization might have to move on with the Grand Prix final without Cormier if his hand injury sidelines him for too long, I admit I was stunned. I could see replacing someone earlier in the tournament, but in the final? Barnett-Cormier is the only fight that makes sense at this point, and it’s the only one anyone wants to see. It’s a great match-up too, plus there’s Cormier’s whole Cinderella story as an alternate who made the most of an unexpected opportunity. Even if it takes a year, I think you have to wait it out. There are simply no other decent options. Who would you even replace Cormier with at this point? Who’s the alternate for the alternate? Chad Griggs? Antonio Silva? Fabricio Werdum? None of those would feel like a genuine tournament final bout. It would be better to risk leaving this unfinished than to move on with some artificial ending that Strikeforce tries to sell as a meaningful finale. Not only would no one believe it, it would just be insulting and degrading for all of us, Strikeforce included.

 

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The MMA Wrap-Up: Post-Strikeforce World Grand Prix Edition

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After a full night of exciting fights at the Strikeforce World Heavyweight Grand Prix in Cincinnati, the MMA Wrap-Up returns to look back on the action and wonder, if there’s an awesome fight card in the middle of the forest and no one hears it, does it really make a sound? Probably, yeah. Especially if the undercard is broadcast on HDNet.

 

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After a full night of exciting fights at the Strikeforce World Heavyweight Grand Prix in Cincinnati, the MMA Wrap-Up returns to look back on the action and wonder, if there’s an awesome fight card in the middle of the forest and no one hears it, does it really make a sound? Probably, yeah. Especially if the undercard is broadcast on HDNet.

 

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AKA Goes Undefeated at Strikeforce, to Mild Surprise of at Least One Team Member

Filed under: StrikeforceCINCINNATI — Heading into Saturday night’s Strikeforce event, American Kickboxing Academy middleweight Luke Rockhold predicted a perfect 4-0 night for himself and his teammates. It was an ambitious prediction that ended up bein…

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CINCINNATI — Heading into Saturday night’s Strikeforce event, American Kickboxing Academy middleweight Luke Rockhold predicted a perfect 4-0 night for himself and his teammates. It was an ambitious prediction that ended up being accurate, but it also seemed at least somewhat like the kind of thing you say to boost everyone’s confidence rather you really believe it or not.

But Rockhold, who took a close decision over Ronaldo Souza to claim the Strikeforce middleweight title, insisted he knew all along that his squad would end the night undefeated.

“I don’t speak nonsense,” he told reporters at the post-fight press conference. “I was just really confident in my team.”

One of Rockhold’s coaches — AKA’s Javier Mendez — wasn’t quite so sure, however.

“I was confident, honestly, with 3-1,” Mendez told MMA Fighting. “I was hoping for four, but my concern was Mike Kyle.”

As Mendez explained, it wasn’t that he thought Kyle was outmatched against Marcos Rogerio de Lima on the prelim portion of the card. Instead, he was worried about whether Kyle had been healthy enough to adequately prepare for the fight.

“He just got through going through a broken hand. He didn’t get to spar [in training],” Mendez said. “We didn’t want him sparring because we were afraid he would re-break his hand. So I was concerned with him. I wasn’t concerned with Mo [Lawal], wasn’t concerned with Daniel [Cormier], but I was most confident in Luke.”

As it turned out, Rockhold’s fight was the biggest nail-biter of the night for the AKA crew. He and Souza went back and forth for five rounds, the outcome was difficult to call as they stood in the center of the cage awaiting the judges’ decision.

“I felt good about it,” Rockhold said afterward. “I might have got a little rocked, but I came back strong and I think I won some rounds.”

Mendez was similarly confident, but even he couldn’t justify giving all five rounds to Rockhold, as judge Bruce Snell did.

“I thought we had it for sure, based on the fifth round, how he came out and what he did. It was pretty close there, but when he came out and did the most damage, being the aggressor, I knew he had it,” Mendez said. “But the score of 50-45 for Luke? Whoever that was, no. That was wrong. I thought it was 48-47 for Luke.”

However you score it, the AKA squad went home unbeaten thanks to the decision wins for Rockhold and Kyle, and knockout victories by Lawal and Cormier. With that, the whole team returned to San Jose, Calif. with smiles on their faces and a renewed swagger in their step. Just ask the new Strikeforce middleweight champ.

“AKA,” Rockhold grinned. “Watch out. Don’t step on our turf.”

 

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Josh Barnett Lobbies Strikeforce to Put Heavyweight Title Up for Grabs in GP

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CINCINNATI — The post-fight press conference had almost wrapped up, but Josh Barnett couldn’t resist. When the topic of conversation turned to what Strikeforce was planning to do about its vacant heavyweight title, Barnett just had to put Scott Coker on the spot.

“Why don’t we sweeten the pot?” Barnett asked. “Why don’t we put that title on the line between me and [Daniel] Cormier?”

As he went on to explain, “Strikeforce needs a real champ. It needs a real champ like me or Cormier. Besides us, who is it?”

Coker, who seemed visibly uncomfortable with the question, gave a meandering answer in the form of a history lesson that eventually boiled down to one main point: “Let’s just take it one step at a time, Josh.”

In other words, Strikeforce isn’t committing to anything just yet. Not until it absolutely has to.

And yet, it seems only logical to use the heavyweight Grand Prix to crown a champion now that Alistair Overeem has fled to the UFC and the title is vacant. As Barnett pointed out while slipping into his pro wrestling schtick at the presser, either he or Cormier could be legitimately dubbed the Strikeforce title-holder after winning this tournament.

“Either one of us is a grand champion,” said Barnett. “Either one of us is the kind of guy who can take that belt, hold our hands up with it, and people look at us and say, hey, those guys are champs. That’s the people we want representing our company. That’s the kind of guy I want to look up to and say hey, you want to see a fighter? You want to see a real bad-ass in the world? There he is, right there. See that gold around his waist? That’s not a joke. That’s reality. The people he had to step over to get that, he earned it.”

As Barnett said later, this was a speech he meant to give in the cage for all to see, but forgot it in the post-fight confusion.

“But I really believe that, once it gets to the finals, there really are no two better fighters to represent Strikeforce as a heavyweight champion,” he said. “This is not where we intended to be at this point with the tournament, but the fact of the matter is, this is where we are. We have no champ. It’s vacant. We can’t walk around like that. We can’t hold our heads as high if we don’t have a heavyweight champion.”

The fact that Strikeforce officials won’t go ahead and put the title on the line makes you wonder, what are they saving it for? Or perhaps, is it a decision that’s out of their hands, now that Zuffa owns the organization and seems to be picking it apart one piece at a time?

“I don’t even want to go there,” Barnett said. “I could speculate. I’ve been in this longer than almost anybody you can find at any of these events. But I just don’t want to do it.”

At the moment, he said, his more immediate goal is not just beating Cormier in the finals, but getting at least one takedown to prove that he’s capable of putting a former Olympic wrestler on his back.

“I’ve got to get that takedown on DC,” he said during the press conference, adding that he knew if he managed to do it, “Mo [Lawal] will never let him live it down, ever.”

From the other side of the podium Cormier just grinned and leaned forward into his microphone.

“Not happening,” he said.

 

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CINCINNATI — The post-fight press conference had almost wrapped up, but Josh Barnett couldn’t resist. When the topic of conversation turned to what Strikeforce was planning to do about its vacant heavyweight title, Barnett just had to put Scott Coker on the spot.

“Why don’t we sweeten the pot?” Barnett asked. “Why don’t we put that title on the line between me and [Daniel] Cormier?”

As he went on to explain, “Strikeforce needs a real champ. It needs a real champ like me or Cormier. Besides us, who is it?”


Coker, who seemed visibly uncomfortable with the question, gave a meandering answer in the form of a history lesson that eventually boiled down to one main point: “Let’s just take it one step at a time, Josh.”

In other words, Strikeforce isn’t committing to anything just yet. Not until it absolutely has to.

And yet, it seems only logical to use the heavyweight Grand Prix to crown a champion now that Alistair Overeem has fled to the UFC and the title is vacant. As Barnett pointed out while slipping into his pro wrestling schtick at the presser, either he or Cormier could be legitimately dubbed the Strikeforce title-holder after winning this tournament.

“Either one of us is a grand champion,” said Barnett. “Either one of us is the kind of guy who can take that belt, hold our hands up with it, and people look at us and say, hey, those guys are champs. That’s the people we want representing our company. That’s the kind of guy I want to look up to and say hey, you want to see a fighter? You want to see a real bad-ass in the world? There he is, right there. See that gold around his waist? That’s not a joke. That’s reality. The people he had to step over to get that, he earned it.”

As Barnett said later, this was a speech he meant to give in the cage for all to see, but forgot it in the post-fight confusion.

“But I really believe that, once it gets to the finals, there really are no two better fighters to represent Strikeforce as a heavyweight champion,” he said. “This is not where we intended to be at this point with the tournament, but the fact of the matter is, this is where we are. We have no champ. It’s vacant. We can’t walk around like that. We can’t hold our heads as high if we don’t have a heavyweight champion.”

The fact that Strikeforce officials won’t go ahead and put the title on the line makes you wonder, what are they saving it for? Or perhaps, is it a decision that’s out of their hands, now that Zuffa owns the organization and seems to be picking it apart one piece at a time?

“I don’t even want to go there,” Barnett said. “I could speculate. I’ve been in this longer than almost anybody you can find at any of these events. But I just don’t want to do it.”

At the moment, he said, his more immediate goal is not just beating Cormier in the finals, but getting at least one takedown to prove that he’s capable of putting a former Olympic wrestler on his back.

“I’ve got to get that takedown on DC,” he said during the press conference, adding that he knew if he managed to do it, “Mo [Lawal] will never let him live it down, ever.”

From the other side of the podium Cormier just grinned and leaned forward into his microphone.

“Not happening,” he said.

 

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Daniel Cormier Scores Big Knockout, but Victory Comes With Price

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Daniel Cormier knocked out Antonio Silva in the Strikeforce Grand Prix semifinals.CINCINNATI — Daniel Cormier may have entered the Strikeforce World Heavyweight Grand Prix as an alternate, but after a dominant performance in a knockout victory over Antonio Silva, no one can question whether he deserves a place in the finals.

However, after Cormier showed up at the post-fight press conference early Sunday morning with the right hand he used to dispatch “Bigfoot” Silva wrapped up in a tight wad of bandages, some may question when he’ll be fit enough to fight again, and whether it will be soon enough for the powers that be.

“I kind of hurt my hand on the very first right hand,” Cormier said. “When he went down, he got up and I was like, man, how am I going to get through the next fifteen minutes of this with my hand hurting like it was. I just kept throwing it.”

It didn’t take long before Cormier connected again, putting Silva down with a short right uppercut near the end of the round and then finishing him off with dueling hammer fists. With the win, the former U.S. Olympic wrestling team captain secured a spot opposite Josh Barnett in the Grand Prix finals, though whether he’ll truly get that chance could be contingent upon his injury and availability, said Strikeforce’s Scott Coker.




“If Daniel wasn’t available for an extended period of time we would consider another fight [for the Grand Prix final],” Coker said, explaining that the goal was to complete the tournament some time in the first quarter of 2012.

That would make for a bittersweet ending to Cormier’s improbable run in the tournament. After being named as an alternate in the tournament, he defeated Jeff Monson via decision in June, then got the call to join the Grand Prix after heavyweight champ Alistair Overeem was pulled from the tournament and dropped from Strikeforce.

He came into the fight with Silva as a slight underdog, but the undefeated Cormier demolished the much bigger Brazilian thanks to his powerful right hand. If the right hand is broken — and, judging from Cormier’s post-fight remarks, it may very well be — it could be months before he’s able to fight again.

If that’s the case, it could put Strikeforce and its parent company, Zuffa, in a tough spot. Both want to wrap up the Grand Prix before it stretches on too long, but after Saturday night it’s clear that Cormier vs. Barnett will be the only legitimate final.

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For Cormier, however, an injury withdrawal at this stage is a worst-case scenario that he hasn’t even begun to consider too heavily. Getting a win over Silva, who defeated Fedor Emelianenko in the quarterfinal of the tournament, is a huge accomplishment at this stage of his MMA career, and he admitted that it hadn’t “completely sunk in yet.”

Still, on a night when all three of his AKA teammates on the card recorded victories, Cormier had the confidence and the backing of his coach and manager Bob Cook to carry with him into the cage. And that, he said, made all the difference.

“Bob Cook is my guy. Right before my fight he came up to me and said, ‘Look man, he has nothing for you. You’re a winner. That’s what you do, and I have all the faith in the world that you’re going to win tonight.’ That statement was enough. I was in the back kind of putting some pressure on myself, with all the [AKA] guys winning. But then I was like, you know what, I’ve won before. I just need to do what I know and what I’ve trained to do and the result will take care of itself.”

Now he just has to hope that his injuries aren’t too serious and that Strikeforce isn’t too impatient for a Grand Prix final. Either one could mean disappointment for Cormier, and neither is within his control at this point.

 

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Daniel Cormier knocked out Antonio Silva in the Strikeforce Grand Prix semifinals.CINCINNATI — Daniel Cormier may have entered the Strikeforce World Heavyweight Grand Prix as an alternate, but after a dominant performance in a knockout victory over Antonio Silva, no one can question whether he deserves a place in the finals.

However, after Cormier showed up at the post-fight press conference early Sunday morning with the right hand he used to dispatch “Bigfoot” Silva wrapped up in a tight wad of bandages, some may question when he’ll be fit enough to fight again, and whether it will be soon enough for the powers that be.

“I kind of hurt my hand on the very first right hand,” Cormier said. “When he went down, he got up and I was like, man, how am I going to get through the next fifteen minutes of this with my hand hurting like it was. I just kept throwing it.”

It didn’t take long before Cormier connected again, putting Silva down with a short right uppercut near the end of the round and then finishing him off with dueling hammer fists. With the win, the former U.S. Olympic wrestling team captain secured a spot opposite Josh Barnett in the Grand Prix finals, though whether he’ll truly get that chance could be contingent upon his injury and availability, said Strikeforce’s Scott Coker.




“If Daniel wasn’t available for an extended period of time we would consider another fight [for the Grand Prix final],” Coker said, explaining that the goal was to complete the tournament some time in the first quarter of 2012.

That would make for a bittersweet ending to Cormier’s improbable run in the tournament. After being named as an alternate in the tournament, he defeated Jeff Monson via decision in June, then got the call to join the Grand Prix after heavyweight champ Alistair Overeem was pulled from the tournament and dropped from Strikeforce.

He came into the fight with Silva as a slight underdog, but the undefeated Cormier demolished the much bigger Brazilian thanks to his powerful right hand. If the right hand is broken — and, judging from Cormier’s post-fight remarks, it may very well be — it could be months before he’s able to fight again.

If that’s the case, it could put Strikeforce and its parent company, Zuffa, in a tough spot. Both want to wrap up the Grand Prix before it stretches on too long, but after Saturday night it’s clear that Cormier vs. Barnett will be the only legitimate final.

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For Cormier, however, an injury withdrawal at this stage is a worst-case scenario that he hasn’t even begun to consider too heavily. Getting a win over Silva, who defeated Fedor Emelianenko in the quarterfinal of the tournament, is a huge accomplishment at this stage of his MMA career, and he admitted that it hadn’t “completely sunk in yet.”

Still, on a night when all three of his AKA teammates on the card recorded victories, Cormier had the confidence and the backing of his coach and manager Bob Cook to carry with him into the cage. And that, he said, made all the difference.

“Bob Cook is my guy. Right before my fight he came up to me and said, ‘Look man, he has nothing for you. You’re a winner. That’s what you do, and I have all the faith in the world that you’re going to win tonight.’ That statement was enough. I was in the back kind of putting some pressure on myself, with all the [AKA] guys winning. But then I was like, you know what, I’ve won before. I just need to do what I know and what I’ve trained to do and the result will take care of itself.”

Now he just has to hope that his injuries aren’t too serious and that Strikeforce isn’t too impatient for a Grand Prix final. Either one could mean disappointment for Cormier, and neither is within his control at this point.

 

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