B/R MMA Roundtable: Expectations and Projections for BJ Penn’s Latest Return

BJ Penn is returning to the UFC—again.
The details of when and against whom are still up in the air, but “The Prodigy” is coming back with Greg Jackson and Mike Winkeljohn in his corner. The former lightweight and welterweight champio…

BJ Penn is returning to the UFCagain.

The details of when and against whom are still up in the air, but “The Prodigy” is coming back with Greg Jackson and Mike Winkeljohn in his corner. The former lightweight and welterweight champion is setting his sights on featherweight gold. Such an accomplishment would make him MMA‘s first-ever three-division champion, but is that a realistic goal for the 37-year-old former champion?

The Bleacher Report staff got together to discuss Penn’s return, what it means and our expectations should.

Scott Harris: Any and all BJ Penn takes must arrive at the table wrapped in disclaimers and served with a side of platitudes.

Yes, Penn is one of the greatest MMA fighters ever, and almost certainly the lightweight GOAT. Yes, at age 37 and with 13 years of combat under his belt, the very wealthy Penn is taking an unnecessary risk with his health and well-being. Yes, Penn has earned the right to make his own decisions. Yes, Penn is severely diminished as a fighter. Yes, Greg Jackson is a very good coach and could impart some new motivation to Penn.

After wading through the context and acknowledgements, there’s not much left but a couple of basic questions: How would you define success in this run, and do you care? My answer to the first is that any UFC win, even if it comes over, say, Phillipe Nover, is probably enough to scratch Penn’s competitive itch and send us all home satisfied. In the second, I guess my answer is yes. It may be sad to think of Penn hurting or deluding himself, but when Michael Jordan played for the Washington Wizards, I still bought tickets.

Nathan McCarter: I loved the blood-licking, underwater-rock-carrying BJ Penn. He was fun. Notice the past tense. I have simply been burned too many times by a “motivated” Penn. I got excited when he returned against Frankie Edgar at 145. I thought getting to 145 and having dropped two to Edgar previously would allow us to see a competitive and fired-up Prodigy. He got destroyed, and he looked listless.

Penn wants to make a run at 145 gold? No. It’s not happening. That’s a pipe dream he needs to let go.

I don’t have high expectations for this returnwhatever number we are at with Penn now. I think Nik Lentz would be a perfect opponent for him, and their beef would, at least, allow me to care a tiny fraction of what I used to care for a BJ Penn fight.

It is also a fight between two fighters not nearing a title shot and can be a serviceable piece to any fight card. So, that’s something I guess. I expect the bare minimum in the hopes I can be surprised by even a marginally entertaining performance.

Featherweight is a strong division, and I just can’t see Penn having long-term success in the UFC. If pressed to make a prediction of what happens, I’d have to say he’ll get a win over a subpar fighter and get wrecked by a true contender.

Truthfully, I just hope this return doesn’t make me sad.

Steven Rondina: Honestly, I think you’re both being too negative when it comes to Penn. Is he 37 years old? Sure. Is he 1-5-1 since 2010? You betcha. Are his hopes of making a title run wildly unrealistic? Absolutely.

But when I’m mulling over a fighter’s retirement prospects (or, in this case, unretirement prospects), there’s only one question on my mind; are they still able to physically do this? When it comes to Penn…I don’t see why not.

Penn hasn’t been knocked out bunches of times like Ken Shamrock. He hasn’t endured multiple neck and back surgeries like Tito Ortiz. Heck, he hasn’t even sustained a catastrophic injury and been popped for PEDs like a certain other former champ who is going to be making a potentially ill-advised return in February.

My one and only concern when it comes to Penn is how the UFC uses him. Jobbing him out to Brian Ortega or Dustin Poirier, in my opinion, would be a massive disappointment. I’m not sure I could emotionally handle it!

Jeremy Botter: I got the same gross feeling in the pit of my stomach about all this Penn return stuff as the rest of you.

But then I started thinking: You know, this is not Penn staying home and being fat and training for 30 minutes a day and waiting until the very last minute to do anything resembling a fight camp. This is Penn, a historical loafer, uprooting himself and moving to the desolate Albuquerque area, which is just about as different from Hawaii as you can get without, you know, going to Mars or something.

And it’s not just about that willingness to get out of his comfort zone, because we’ve seen Penn do that in the past with dismal results, and it never sticks. This is about the destination. This is about Greg Jackson and Mike Winkeljohn, two men who might as well be certified miracle workers when it comes to plucking old, shot dudes off the trash heap and giving them a restoration job that confounds the world.

Andrei Arlovski? That dude was getting knocked out by atrocious fighters until Jackson and Wink got their hands on him, and then he turned right around and went on a run that pushed him near the UFC heavyweight title before Stipe Miocic’s brutal hands ended him.

Jackson and Winkthey have a thing for this, for taking the broken-down dudes we don’t believe in anymore, the ones we believe should hang ’em up, and then making them an unlikely return-from-the-grave success story. If this were just BJ Penn deciding he’s bored and wants to make some money, I’d be all vomity at the notion of him stepping back in the Octagon.

But Jackson and Wink have a pretty good track record, or at least enough of one for me to trust them when they say they believe Penn still has what it takes. They also have the kind of brutal honesty that, if they met with Penn and watched him work out and decided that they weren’t on board with this whole idea, they would’ve put the kibosh on it, or at least to their own involvement.

Penn might come back and get brutalized. That’s a real possibility. But in my mind, this isn’t about Penn. It’s about Jackson and Winklejohn and their track record for doing the impossible. Because of that record, I am willing to see what happens here, and I’ll do so without any hesitation.

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Joanna Jedrzejczyk and Claudia Gadelha Tapped as ‘TUF 23’ Coaches, Fight July 8

The rematch is set. Joanna Jedrzejczyk vs. Claudia Gadelha will happen, but everyone will have to wait a little bit before watching it go down.

The two elite strawweights will coach the upcoming season of The Ultimate Fighter. The UFC made the announc…

The rematch is set. Joanna Jedrzejczyk vs. Claudia Gadelha will happen, but everyone will have to wait a little bit before watching it go down.

The two elite strawweights will coach the upcoming season of The Ultimate Fighter. The UFC made the announcement during the UFC Fight Night 81 broadcast. The season will feature light heavyweights and strawweights.

The coaches will not meet in a pay-per-view contest but instead will headline The Ultimate Fighter Finale during International Fight Week on July 8. The five-round title tilt will be the prelude to UFC 200.

Jedrzejczyk defeated Gadelha by split decision in their first encounter. It was a result that propelled the Polish striker to her title bid. The narrow decision was slightly controversial when it occurred, as the majority of media scored it for Gadelha, but it was a very close fight.

Joanna Champion has been active since the bout. She defeated Carla Esparza to win the strawweight championship and subsequently defended it twice against Jessica Penne and Valerie Letourneau.

Gadelha has suffered a couple of injuries since that time. She was knocked off a card in Poland against Aisling Daly, defeated Jessica Aguilar at UFC 190 to earn her title bid and then missed her title shot against Jedrzejczyk at UFC 195.

After Jedrzejczyk‘s dominant 2015, the wait for her next defense may prove the best move for the strawweight division. It will give the UFC time to sort out who the next contender will be for whoever walks out of the TUF Finale fight as champion. The series should also help familiarize the U.S. audience with the strawweights, as it will be the first time two foreign fighters coach a U.S. TUF.

The Ultimate Fighter premieres on April 20, with its finale on July 8 in Las Vegas, but no venue has been announced. Bleacher Report will keep you up to date on this fight, The Ultimate Fighter and all fight announcements as they are made available.

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Joanna Jedrzejczyk and Claudia Gadelha Tapped as ‘TUF 23’ Coaches, Fight July 8

The rematch is set. Joanna Jedrzejczyk vs. Claudia Gadelha will happen, but everyone will have to wait a little bit before watching it go down.

The two elite strawweights will coach the upcoming season of The Ultimate Fighter. The UFC made the announc…

The rematch is set. Joanna Jedrzejczyk vs. Claudia Gadelha will happen, but everyone will have to wait a little bit before watching it go down.

The two elite strawweights will coach the upcoming season of The Ultimate Fighter. The UFC made the announcement during the UFC Fight Night 81 broadcast. The season will feature light heavyweights and strawweights.

The coaches will not meet in a pay-per-view contest but instead will headline The Ultimate Fighter Finale during International Fight Week on July 8. The five-round title tilt will be the prelude to UFC 200.

Jedrzejczyk defeated Gadelha by split decision in their first encounter. It was a result that propelled the Polish striker to her title bid. The narrow decision was slightly controversial when it occurred, as the majority of media scored it for Gadelha, but it was a very close fight.

Joanna Champion has been active since the bout. She defeated Carla Esparza to win the strawweight championship and subsequently defended it twice against Jessica Penne and Valerie Letourneau.

Gadelha has suffered a couple of injuries since that time. She was knocked off a card in Poland against Aisling Daly, defeated Jessica Aguilar at UFC 190 to earn her title bid and then missed her title shot against Jedrzejczyk at UFC 195.

After Jedrzejczyk‘s dominant 2015, the wait for her next defense may prove the best move for the strawweight division. It will give the UFC time to sort out who the next contender will be for whoever walks out of the TUF Finale fight as champion. The series should also help familiarize the U.S. audience with the strawweights, as it will be the first time two foreign fighters coach a U.S. TUF.

The Ultimate Fighter premieres on April 20, with its finale on July 8 in Las Vegas, but no venue has been announced. Bleacher Report will keep you up to date on this fight, The Ultimate Fighter and all fight announcements as they are made available.

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UFC Fight Night 81 Results: The Real Winners and Losers from Boston

It was billed as the best bantamweight fight in UFC history, and it lived up to the billing.
UFC bantamweight champion TJ Dillashaw stepped in to defend against former champion Dominick Cruz. It is a fight that has been a long time coming as Cruz battl…

It was billed as the best bantamweight fight in UFC history, and it lived up to the billing.

UFC bantamweight champion TJ Dillashaw stepped in to defend against former champion Dominick Cruz. It is a fight that has been a long time coming as Cruz battled injury after injury. Dillashaw stepped up in his absence to take control of the division, but the king took back his throne Sunday evening.

It wasn’t easy. Cruz had to hang on as Dillashaw came on strong in the championship rounds, but two of the three judges saw it for The Dominator. Both men walked out of the cage bloodied, battered and heralded as the best of the best. They gave every bit of themselves for the fans and the championship gold.

Were you able to catch all the action following the NFL playoffs? If not, Bleacher Report has you covered. The 13-fight event delivered a variety of talking points that will shape a few division in 2016. Here is what you missed and the real winners and losers from UFC Fight Night 81 in Boston.

Full results of the fight card are featured on the final slide.

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Invicta FC 15 Cyborg vs Ibragimova: Live Results, Play-by-Play and Highlights

Invicta FC 15 kicks off at 9 p.m. ET on UFC Fight Pass, and the seven-fight event is headlined by Cris “Cyborg” Justino.
Cyborg defends her featherweight title against Daria Ibragimova in the main event, and Livia Renata Souza puts her strawweight…

Invicta FC 15 kicks off at 9 p.m. ET on UFC Fight Pass, and the seven-fight event is headlined by Cris “Cyborg” Justino.

Cyborg defends her featherweight title against Daria Ibragimova in the main event, and Livia Renata Souza puts her strawweight gold on the line against DeAnna Bennett in the co-main event.

Five other bouts help fill out the light card, but they feature several notable prospects and veterans. It should provide for a fun evening of fights.

Bleacher Report will bring you all the action live when the fighters hit the cage. Keep it locked right here for Invicta FC 15: Cyborg vs. Ibragimova.

 

Invicta FC 15 Fight Card

  • Invicta FC Featherweight Championship: Cristiane Justino vs. Daria Ibragimova
  • Invicta FC Strawweight Championship: Livia Renata Souza vs. DeAnna Bennett
  • Colleen Schneider vs. Raquel Pa’aluhi
  • Amber Brown vs. Shino VanHoose
  • Lacey Schuckman vs. Mizuki Inoue
  • Angela Hill vs. Alida Gray
  • Megan Anderson vs. Amber Leibrock

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Invicta FC 15 Preview: Cyborg, Strawweight Championship and Top Prospects

Invicta FC returns for its first show of 2016, and it is headlined by Cris “Cyborg” Justino in another featherweight title defense.
Overall, the card features eight fights with two title tilts. Other than Cyborg’s strap up for grabs is the strawweight …

Invicta FC returns for its first show of 2016, and it is headlined by Cris “Cyborg” Justino in another featherweight title defense.

Overall, the card features eight fights with two title tilts. Other than Cyborg’s strap up for grabs is the strawweight gold. Livia Renata Souza defends her title for the first time against DeAnna Bennett.

The remaining six bouts feature a range of prospects and veterans in entertaining fights. UFC outcast Angela Hill makes her organizational debut, Amanda Bell meets Ediane Gomes, Colleen Schneider battles Raquel Pa’aluhi and Amber Brown vs. Shino VanHoose features two fun atomweight prospects.

Sydnie Jones and myself, Nathan McCarter, take a look at three of Saturday’s most enthralling fights happening at Invicta FC 15.

 

Lacey Schuckman vs. Mizuki Inoue

Nathan McCarter: There are several fun bouts, but most seemingly have little significance for their divisions. Schuckman-Inoue will likely be the fight of the night and actually means something. Invicta needs a contender to emerge at 115. Schuckman looked very strong in her Invicta return, and Inoue is still a quality prospect.

After the two decision losses to Alexa Grasso and Karolina Kowalkiewicz, I’m concerned Inoue has plateaued. While only 21, she has a lot more mileage on her than most other prospects. I’m hoping, win or lose, we see some progression from Inoue. I think the winner moves on toward a title shot if Grasso slips up at Invicta FC 16. I think that will be Inoue, but she can’t sleep on Schuckman’s power.

 

Sydnie Jones: Schuckman did look good in her return to Invicta against Jenny Liou Shriver. However, I’m not sure if that means she is good or just that she can look good against an opponent who has nothing for her. Inoue is not that opponent. Prior to Shriver, Schuckman went 2-2 in her last four, with wins against a 50-year-old and a fighter making her pro debut after just one amateur fight. But, Schuckman is active and aggressive, so it’s at least likely to be entertaining.

Thirteen fights is a lot for a 21-year-old, but Inoue has only been fighting for five years. That’s a fair amount of wear and tear to put on a fighter in that amount of time, but it’s not so excessive that I think her decision losses necessarily indicate a plateau. Both of the victors in those are undefeated, fast and powerful. Inoue also seems adept at getting her opponents on their backs in the cage, a situation Schuckman has gotten stuck in before, particularly in her fight against Ayaka Hamasaki. And while Inoue has a habit of running directly into punches when attempting her own striking, I don’t think Schuckman will be able to get the win here.

 

Livia Renata Souza vs. DeAnna Bennett

Sydnie: I’m still mystified that the judges gave Bennett the decision in her fight with Katja Kankaanpaa. In any case, it meant she beat the No. 1 strawweight contender and was awarded the title shot, so here we are with Bennett as Souza’s first title defense. Bennett’s last three fights have ended with decisions, and she seems fairly proficient at eking out wins by pushing her opponent against the cage and keeping her there.

It’s possible, if she does that and if Souza tires, that the fight will slog through all five rounds and we’ll see another decision. However, Souza is a proactive, aggressive fighter who chains together submission attempts and doesn’t seem content to grind out a non-loss. Hopefully, that will translate into an exciting fight with a finish. Souza’s grappling is more developed than many in the division, and she’s threatening in any position, including from the bottom. Souza’s first title defense should be successful and easily achieved.

 

Nathan: I echo just about everything you said here. We here at Bleacher Report have Souza ranked ninthtied with Valerie Letourneau—in our latest rankings. She is a world-class fighter at 115 pounds. Bennett should be outclassed in this matchup, but there is every bit the possibility she tires out the champion and grabs a narrow decision.

It’s interesting to note that Invicta gave Bennett this title shot after coming in overweight against Kankaanpaa. It wasn’t even really close, as she weighed 117.4 pounds. It’s curious given how much both Invicta president Shannon Knapp and matchmaker Julie Kedzie have railed against fighters coming in overweight.

Originally this was supposed to be Alexa Grasso’s title shot at Invicta FC 14, and that was a much more compelling fight. Unfortunately, injuries and scheduling got in the way of it happening. I have a feeling Souza is going to put on a dominant showing that will make me long for that fight to finally happen in 2016.

 

Cyborg

Nathan: It may be disrespectful, but I’m not even going to acknowledge Daria Ibragimova here. This is another one-sided massacre waiting to happen because featherweight is a terrible division with no suitable challenger for Cyborg.

The real question: why is the UFC still footing the bill for Cyborg?

 

Sydnie: I’ll acknowledge Ibragimova. She is a capable grappler and apparently a sambo champion in Ukraine, if the announcer at this fight is to be believed. She’ll make a fun addition to Invicta’s featherweight division. That said, I don’t disagree with you. I don’t think those skills will help when confronted with Cyborg’s overwhelming power.

I have no idea why. Maybe the ink on this defense was dry before the Rousey loss happened?

 

Nathan: Holm is now the money fight for Rousey, and Cyborg continues to do everything in her power to avoid even an attempt at 140 pounds. Invicta originally announced Cyborg for this event in a 140-pound fight, and Cyborg immediately tweeted that wasn’t going to be the case.

I don’t see the value for paying this premium anymore. It’s a dreadful division with no real hope in sight for it to become legitimate, and Cyborg has done nothing to move toward even a possible UFC catchweight fight.

 

Sydnie: I think the Rousey fight may not be nearly as profitable for Cyborg now, and the fact that Rousey has a loss on her record is a handy out for Cyborg. It might be good for Rousey, should she beat Cyborg, but I don’t think it’s going to happen at all.

I mean, featherweight certainly isn’t going to get any better without signing people like Ibragimova. Many WMMA divisions across multiple promotions are kind of shallow. It takes time to develop them—not only to find the talent, but to get the word out that it’s a division worth being in. WMMA at higher levels is still in an embryonic stage, so maybe Invicta’s featherweight division will mature after Cyborg’s reign. Or hey, maybe someone will actually beat her, and that in and of itself will make the division more exciting. Maybe it will even be Ibragimova, but I’m not anticipating it.

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