The UFC is growing up so fast. From tentpole casinos in Mississippi, so insubstantial that they blew away in Katrina, to the glitz and glamour of Las Vegas, we’ve come a long way, baby.
For years UFC President Dana White has worked hard to positio…
The UFC is growing up so fast. From tentpole casinos in Mississippi, so insubstantial that they blew away in Katrina, to the glitz and glamour of Las Vegas, we’ve come a long way, baby.
For years UFC President Dana White has worked hard to position his promotion, his brand, right up with the professional sporting elite. “Bigger than football. Bigger than soccer.” That was the mantra. And while not there yet, a shiny new network television deal is proof positive of the progress White has made on the UFC’s behalf.
Perhaps, White and UFC ownership weren’t quite ready for the price of that success. Because, and never doubt this for a moment, the athletes and their management see it too. They see every story about extravagant spending, about billion-dollar valuation. They smell success. They understand their role in creating that success. And they want their share.
Like teenagers testing boundaries, some of the UFC’s best are pushing White, seeing where he might break and how far they can go. And White, as is his way, is pushing back.
The most recent example comes in the form of Mauricio “Shogun” Rua. A Pride legend and former UFC champion, Rua was last seen in the cage competing in what many consider the single best mixed martial arts fight of all time.
But, in a close decision, Rua lost to Dan Henderson. In White’s mind, that seemingly negated all the positives of that night. When he told Rua, a top-ten contender still in the title hunt, that he would be fighting the unknown Glover Teixeira on Fox, he expected Shogun would step up and do it. After all, that’s how the sport has operated since the UFC rescued it from potential extinction in 2001.
Shogun, though, saw things differently. He was an icon. A fighter still on the precipice of great things. What interest could he possibly have in fighting someone most fans couldn’t pick out of a police lineup? He, no doubt politely, demurred.
It was a tough fight, one he could very well lose. If you are going to lose, and you want to maintain status as one of the best, you lose to the best. Losing to Glover Teixeira was a one-way ticket to the undercard. And that, and this is the scary part, is the path to seeing your contract scaled back and your endorsements cut in half—one small step from being sent packing right back to Brazil.
And so the two men stood staring, eye to eye in a sense, though the negotiations were done over the phone. Shogun had his way. He will not be fighting Glover Teixeira. Instead, his opponent will be Brandon Vera, a former prospect who has never lived up to the hype, self-created, that he might be the first man to hold heavyweight and light heavyweight gold at the same time.
Vera doesn’t provide the same level of risk to Rua. And, just as importantly, he has more name value. If the worst happens, if Shogun is somehow upset in the bout, no one will be saying “Who?” when told the results.
It’s not often White loses a battle. And, when he does, it isn’t pretty. Never mind that Shogun just competed in the best fight of all time. White hasn’t just thrown him under a bus. He’s buried him under the Greyhound station and then lit the thing on fire, starting at a media scrum :
He absolutely refused to fight him. He would rather be cut than fight him. You know what, it was one of those very weird situations to hear one of the top five guys in the world say ‘I’d rather be cut than fight a guy who isn’t ranked.’ And the reason that they were saying was because ‘oh he’s not top ten.’
But then when we offer him Brandon Vera he took it in two seconds. Vera isn’t top ten either. Someone asked me this question earlier, but the reality is that Shogun is a guy whom I respect, he been in a million wars with all the best in the world, but for some reason he does not wanna fight this dude Glover.
And you know me, if you don’t want me to tell the truth, don’t say that stuff to me on the phone. That’s exactly what happened, that’s exactly the way it went down. And me and Lorenzo said ‘Listen dude, you can’t be turning down fights at this level. With the money you’re making and where you are ranked in the world, you don’t turn down fights at this level. We might have to cut you’ and he said ‘I’d rather be cut than fight him.’”
While management-player unrest in other sports is met with a dismissive shrug or an elaborate eye roll, in mixed martial arts it’s something new and fresh. It’s endearing in a way.
Shogun standing up to the UFC is somewhat unprecedented. The promotion has prided itself in being able to make the fights it wants to make. How many times have we heard White clown on boxing, unable to book the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight everyone is clamoring for? That’s a problem that doesn’t exist for the UFC.
Or, rather, didn’t exist.
We are now on a very slippery slope towards that mentality. That’s the boxing path, where the power rests in the hands of the fighters and not the promoters. And while they deserve to be compensated fairly, that’s a dangerous and destructive road to walk.
What’s great about the UFC is that they do give us the fights we want to see. That the best guys in the world do step into the cage and go at it—with no exceptions. It’s what powers the UFC brand, what allows matchmaker Joe Silva to work his magic.
Now Shogun has stuck his foot in the door. It’s why White has had to slam it shut so hard. I’m sure he hates having to question the courage of one of his best fighters. But this is a battle he absolutely must win. A message has to be sent to other fighters, a message that says, unambiguously, that fighters don’t make the fights. The UFC does. Period.
An exception was made for Shogun because he’s a hero and a legend. The next fighter that decides he’s going to decide which bouts to take and which to turn down? He needs to be cut, with great pomp and circumstance.
At the highest levels of MMA, we simply need the best to fight the best. It’s a battle for MMA’s soul. For the very future of the sport many of us love. And it’s a battle that, for the sake of the fans, we need Dana White to win.
Mauricio “Shogun” Rua has been catching a number of headlines recently for his refusal to fight fellow Brazilian Glover Teixeira.Following the UFC on FX 4 event, Dana White let it be known that “Shogun” would rather be cut than face Teixeira. As of now…
Mauricio “Shogun” Rua has been catching a number of headlines recently for his refusal to fight fellow Brazilian Glover Teixeira.
White is usually a guy who tends to tell it how it is, but for now I’ll save judgement on Rua and his camp’s refusal—or not as the case may be—to fight Teixeira. Whatever has happened, Rua will now be fighting Brandon Vera in the main event of a nationally televised event.
Yet there has been very little negative outcry from the MMA community regarding Rua‘s actions. Let me point out a disclaimer that I’m actually a “Shogun” fan and by no means am I trying to single out the Brazilian.
Rather, I’m attempting to point out that Rua is being unfairly given a free pass for refusing to fight Teixeira. I get why Rua wouldn’t want to fight him; a vast majority of MMA fans don’t have the slightest clue who Teixeira is. If Rua were to win it would simply be a victory over a top prospect that few fans know about, but if Rua were to lose, it would damage his reputation almost irreparably.
With all that said, I believe the MMA community shouldn’t give Rua a pass based on his career achievements. When Josh Koscheck, Jon Fitch, and Mike Swick all refused to fight each other, fans were hitting the keyboards nonstop despite the three men having a legitimate excuse for not wanting to battle each other.
When Rashad Evans chose to wait for a title shot, every MMA fan in the world laughed at his attempt to “save his brand.”
Yet, when Rua refuses to fight Teixeira and call the UFC’s bluff, it’s simply a footnote in the weekly news.
You could honestly say “Shogun” even owed the UFC a favor. When Rua entered the UFC back in 2007, he did so as one of the crown jewels in the Pride buyout. He was considered one of the top light heavyweights in the world and met Forrest Griffin at UFC 76.
Griffin was meant to be the sacrificial lamb for Rua‘s triumphant entrance to the Octagon, but instead shocked the world by defeating the Brazilian. Rua‘s knee injuries gave his dreadful performance a pass and he was out of action for over a year.
Rua returned to face Mark Coleman at UFC 93 in which “Shogun” looked completely gassed. The bout looked more like a competition of which man would pass out first in the latter stages. Despite the performance, Rua still took home a Fight of the Night bonus.
The win earned Rua a showdown with former champion Chuck Liddell at UFC 97. Rua defeated Liddell by KO, earning Knockout of the Night awards. Not only did “Shogun” earn some extra cash, but the win also gave him a UFC title shot.
The company stuck by “Shogun” despite a few awful performances and even gave him a title shot with victories against an over-the-hill Coleman and Liddell, who was clearly not the same fighter he once was.
Rua will continue to be a fan favorite, an honor he’s certainly earned, but fans shouldn’t simply turn a blind eye to something that caused an uproar for a number of other fighters.
(Shogun, seen here at his all-time favorite vacation getaway.)
Not many of us could make sense of how Mauricio Rua wound up paired against Brandon Vera for the main event of UFC on FOX 4, especially when considering that a fighter of equal to greater relevance in Glover Teixeira had been favored as a replacement against Rua in Thiago Silva’s absence. “The Truth” has not fought since eeking out a decision victory over the now retired Elliot Marshall in October of 2011, and hasn’t looked like his aggressive, take no prisoners self since UFC 65. Teixeira, on the other hand, is on a 16 fight win streak, and although he is of lesser name value, would surely make for a better fight against Rua in our opinion.
Dana White initially reported that when offered the fight, Shogun’s camp wanted “nothing to do with” Teixeira, a claim that was almost instantly rebuked by Shogun’s camp. Oddly enough, after his camp rebuked such a claim, they immediately accepted a match against Vera, leading one to believe that maybe DW wasn’t bullshitting us as he’s been accused of doing before.
Well during the UFC on FX 3 post fight press conference, White divulged into the “he said/she said” speculation a little further, stating that Shogun was so against fighting Teixeira that he was willing to be cut before taking a fight with him.
A full video of the interview and transcription await you after the jump.
(Shogun, seen here at his all-time favorite vacation getaway.)
Not many of us could make sense of how Mauricio Rua wound up paired against Brandon Vera for the main event of UFC on FOX 4, especially when considering that a fighter of equal to greater relevance in Glover Teixeira had been favored as a replacement against Rua in Thiago Silva’s absence. “The Truth” has not fought since eeking out a decision victory over the now retired Elliot Marshall in October of 2011, and hasn’t looked like his aggressive, take no prisoners self since UFC 65. Teixeira, on the other hand, is on a 16 fight win streak, and although he is of lesser name value, would surely make for a better fight against Rua in our opinion.
Dana White initially reported that when offered the fight, Shogun’s camp wanted “nothing to do with” Teixeira, a claim that was almost instantly rebuked by Shogun’s camp. Oddly enough, after his camp rebuked such a claim, they immediately accepted a match against Vera, leading one to believe that maybe DW wasn’t bullshitting us as he’s been accused of doing before.
Well during the UFC on FX 3 post fight press conference, White divulged into the “he said/she said” speculation a little further, stating that Shogun was so against fighting Teixeira that he was willing to be cut before taking a fight with him.
(The question comes around the 2:50 mark.)
Here’s what The UFC Prez had to say when questioned on the issue:
Because he absolutely refused to fight him. He would rather be cut than fight him. You know what, it was one of those very wierd situations to hear one of the top five guys in the world say I’d rather be cut than fight a guy who isn’t ranked. And the reason that they were saying was because oh he’s not top ten. But then when we offer him Brandon Vera he took it in two seconds. Vera isn’t top ten either.
Someone asked me this question earlier, but the reality is that Shogun is a guy whom I respect, he been in a million wars with all the best in the world, but for some reason he does not wanna fight this dude Glover. And you know me, if you don’t want me to tell the truth, don’t say that stuff to me on the phone. That’s exactly what happened, that’s exactly the way it went down.
And me and Lorenzo said ‘Listen dude, you can’t be turning down fights at this level. With the money you’re making and where you are ranked in the world, you don’t turn down fights at this level. We might have to cut you’ and he said ‘I’d rather be cut than fight him.’
Where one can make the argument that a fight with Teixeira does little to nothing for Shogun’s status in the UFC, the same goes twice over for Vera. Say what you want about “The Truth’s” accolades and list of past opponents, but Vera is nowhere near ready for a fight with Shogun at this point in his career. As for Mauricio, it’s like DW said — he isn’t in the position to be turning down any fights in the UFC. Yes he’s a legend, but the fact is, he gets paid to fight whoever the UFC deems fit for him to fight. Plus, he’s gone win-loss in his past six fights, with only one of those victories coming over a fighter who was truly in his prime (Machida).
If he doesn’t like the fights he’s being offered, he should retire or asked to be released from his contract; it’s as simple as that. The fact that the UFC has basically catered to his demands by giving him a fight with Vera, who is even further down the rankings than Teixeira at this point, is both nonsensical and counter-intuitive to the point they are trying to make. But it’s not like they’re going to release a commodity as hot as Shogun on a whim, so perhaps it was just an empty threat more than anything.
The only reason anyone would even tune into Shogun/Vera is for the chance to see a vintage Shogun performance, and as we mentioned earlier, placing it as the headliner of a UFC on FOX card surely wont help the promotion’s ever-dwindling ratings on the network. Personally, Shogun’s ducking of this fight kind of leaves the impression that he doesn’t exactly have the title picture in mind, or would rather just take the easiest path to that shot as possible.
But what do you think of this, Potato Nation? Should Shogun be punished for such a move rather than rewarded, or has he somehow earned the right to tell his bosses how what to do?
Mauricio “Shogun” Rua is an absolute legend of mixed martial arts, but he hasn’t the easiest run of things over the past two years. Rua is 2-3 since October 2009, which sounds bad until you consider that his three losses came against Lyoto Machida, Jon…
Mauricio “Shogun” Rua is an absolute legend of mixed martial arts, but he hasn’t the easiest run of things over the past two years. Rua is 2-3 since October 2009, which sounds bad until you consider that his three losses came against Lyoto Machida, Jon Jones and Dan Henderson.
But records are records, and Shogun’s recent record isn’t the best. That’s why it’s a little more than surprising that Rua, when offered a fight with super-prospect Glover Teixeira, allegedly told Dana White he’d rather be cut than face Teixeira:
“Yeah, he said he’d actually rather be cut, than to have to fight him. Dude, nobody wants to fight this guy. Nobody wants to fight this guy. We’re trying to match this guy up with somebody, but he didn’t mind fighting Brandon Vera. So, he’s fighting Brandon Vera.
“I don’t want to sound like I’m disrespecting Shogun, because I’m not. I’m just telling the truth, you know? It’s verbatim what his people said when we talked to them. And you know me, I tell it like it is. If you don’t want that out in public, then don’t say it to me. Then don’t say it on the phone, because I’m gonna say what was said.”
Interestingly enough, Teixeira’s manager told Brazilian news outlet Tatame that the story of Shogun turning down a fight with his client wasn’t true.
So what to make of all of this?
For starters, it says a lot about Teixeira’s vaunted talents that even a fighter like Rua will decline to face him. In Shogun’s defense, much of that is due to the fact that the casual UFC fan has no idea who Teixeira is, which makes the fight a lose-lose situation. If you beat Glover, you beat a complete unknown, and therefore it’s not a big accomplishment to the majority of your fans.
But if you lose to Teixeira—and that would have been a distinct possibility, given how tough and skillful the Brazilian is—you lost to a nobody. Teixeira’s 16-fight winning streak means nothing to fans who only watch the UFC and don’t really pay attention to the rest of the talent-rich mixed martial arts world.
In the end, I can’t blame Rua for his decision to turn down a fight with Teixeira. If I were his manager or agent, I would have advised him to do the same thing.
Teixeira may ultimately be the guy who can give Jon Jones a run for his money and his belt, but he’s currently just a guy with very little name value. Beating him wouldn’t help Shogun’s career or help him earn any more money, and at this stage of a legendary career, that’s an important thing.
Mauricio “Shogun” Rua could be playing a little “Duck, Duck, Goose” with UFC newcomer Glover Teixeira.The former UFC light heavyweight champion was initially scheduled to face Thiago Silva in the UFC on FOX 3 main event slated for August 4, but an inju…
Mauricio “Shogun” Rua could be playing a little “Duck, Duck, Goose” with UFC newcomer Glover Teixeira.
The former UFC light heavyweight champion was initially scheduled to face Thiago Silva in the UFC on FOX 3 main event slated for August 4, but an injury sustained during training forced Silva off the card.
With the main event in shambles, the UFC scrambled to find a suitable replacement to headline the always-important FOX card.
The UFC and Shogun eventually settled on Brandon Vera as a replacement opponent, but according to UFC President Dana White, Vera wasn’t the first name the promotion had in mind.
“[Shogun] said he’d actually rather be cut than have to fight [Teixeira]. Dude, nobody wants to fight this guy. Nobody wants to fight this guy. We’re trying to match this guy up with somebody, but he didn’t mind fighting Brandon Vera, so, he’s fighting Brandon Vera.”
White’s statements are a stark contrast to remarks made by Shogun’s manager, Julio Heller, who guaranteed to Tatame.com about a week ago that Shogun never turned down a fight with Teixeira.
“I just sent a message to the UFC,” said Heller. “I’m waiting on their call. It’s not true at all.”
It’s very true to White, who was admittedly surprised at Rua for turning down a fight. After all of Rua’s accomplishments, it’s shocking to see a fighter of his caliber pass on a bout against a possible future contender in the light heavyweight division.
“I don’t want to sound like I’m disrespecting Shogun because I’m not. I’m just telling the truth. It’s verbatim what his people said when we talked to him, and you know me, I tell it like it is. If you don’t want that out in public, then don’t say it to me, then don’t say it on the phone because I’m going to say what was said.
But Shogun’s a warrior. The guy has fought everybody from Pride to the UFC. His last fight with Dan Henderson was awesome, and yeah, it is what it is. I don’t think we’re rewarding him. It’s just one of those weird situations I’ve never seen a guy at the level that Shogun is at not want to fight a guy so bad.”
The UFC’s incredibly annoying run of injuries has held strong over the last few days, and one of the latest fights to get scrapped was the one-time UFC on FOX 4 main event between Brian Stann and Hector Lombard. Stann was forced from the bout wit…
The UFC’s incredibly annoying run of injuries has held strong over the last few days, and one of the latest fights to get scrapped was the one-time UFC on FOX 4 main event between Brian Stann and Hector Lombard.
Stann was forced from the bout with a shoulder injury and Lombard has since been moved to the UFC 149 card in order to replace Michael Bisping against Tim Boetsch.
But in the spot that Lombard and Stann once occupied, the UFC has added a light heavyweight battle that may not make the most sense as far as rankings are concerned, but it is guaranteed to be exciting.
Shogun Rua is currently trying to get back on track after suffering a decision loss to Dan Henderson in one of the greatest fights in MMA history back at UFC 139, and his new opponent Brandon Vera, who was cut from the UFC as recently as last spring, is now being thrust back into the main-event picture.
The fight is one of the most unexpected bouts the UFC has announced for some time, but due to the insane amount of injuries and fights being cancelled, fans seem to be giving UFC matchmaker Joe Silva the benefit of the doubt with this matchup.