Dana White’s UFC 141 Video Blog #2: The One Where They Point Out That Scorekeepers Are Often Asleep at the Wheel


(Why does Keith have to be such a mean old Grinch? Pic props Getty Images)

Dana White put out a short and sweet edition of his UFC 141 video blogs today so he could explain the UFC’s decision to award Duane Ludwig with the fastest KO in UFC history.

Previously, Todd Duffee held the distinction for his :07 routing of Tim Hague at UFC 102 back in 2009 and it was believed that Chan-Sung Jung mirrored The Duffman’s time earlier this month when he knocked out Mark Hominick at UFC 140.

On closer inspection it seems that neither fighter really holds the record as it really belongs to Ludwig, whose 2006 knockout over Jonathan Goulet at UFN 3 was previously in the books at :11.


(Why does Keith have to be such a mean old Grinch? Pic props Getty Images)

Dana White put out a short and sweet edition of his UFC 141 video blogs today so he could explain the UFC’s decision to award Duane Ludwig with the fastest KO in UFC history.

Previously, Todd Duffee held the distinction for his :07 routing of Tim Hague at UFC 102 back in 2009 and it was believed that Chan-Sung Jung mirrored The Duffman’s time earlier this month when he knocked out Mark Hominick at UFC 140.

On closer inspection it seems that neither fighter really holds the record as it really belongs to Ludwig, whose 2006 knockout over Jonathan Goulet at UFN 3 was previously in the books at :11.


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As White points out, from the time Mario Yamasaki claps his hands to start the bout to when he touches “Bang” to indicate the fight is over is 6.06 seconds. Duffee’s actual finishing time was 7.56 seconds and “The Korean Zombie’s” was 6.26 seconds.

Translation: The top three fastest KOs in UFC history were Ludwig over Goulet (6.06 seconds), Jung over Hominick (6.26 seconds) and Duffee over Hague (7.56 seconds).

Unfortunately, the Nevada State Athletic Commission doesn’t believe that its employee made a mistake and as such it is refusing to accept the record change, even if the UFC has.

“The ruling is that it stays at 11. There’s no legal avenue to overturn it. I timed it myself with a stopwatch. It was eight seconds. Officially, it’s got to stay at 11 seconds, but unofficially, it could be at eight,” NSAC Executive Director Keith Kizer told MMAjunkie on Monday. “If you use a stopwatch, from the time the fight starts to the time that Mario grabs Duane, it’s about 7.9 seconds. Why the official timekeeper had it at 11, I don’t know. But it wasn’t 11, and it wasn’t four, either.”

Although the World Boxing Council’s records list Duffee as the holder as the fastest KO in UFC history and Jung as the only person to tie the feat, Zuffa isn’t recognizing their erroneous records.

“They can say whatever they want,” Kizer said. “Sounds like they want to be the WBC for some reason.”

Video: The Reem Season 2 Episode 8

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Our favorite web documentary series is back with another episode just intime for its protagonist’s biggest fight of his career.

In this episode of The Reem, Alistair Overeem does some PR work in L.A. ahead of his UFC 141 bout with Brock Lesnar this Friday and spends some time training with Mark Munoz and company at Reign Training Center.

Shame on HDNet and the Octagon Nation Tour for jacking our swagger (6:08 mark) and props to Overeem for punking the last fan in line at the signing. The dude looked like he was going to cry.


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Our favorite web documentary series is back with another episode just intime for its protagonist’s biggest fight of his career.

In this episode of The Reem, Alistair Overeem does some PR work in L.A. ahead of his UFC 141 bout with Brock Lesnar this Friday and spends some time training with Mark Munoz and company at Reign Training Center.

Shame on HDNet and the Octagon Nation Tour for jacking our swagger (6:08 mark) and props to Overeem for punking the last fan in line at the signing. The dude looked like he was going to cry.

What’s up with the “Chessboxing” guy? Strange vibes from him. I’m guessing being shell shocked is the least of his issues.

We also finally get to meet Alistair’s dad, who makes an appearance when he catches one of his son’s training session for the first time ever and explains that it’s too stressful to become emotionally invested in his sons’ fighting careers, so he never watches their fights. Overeem explains that he and his siblings convinced their somewhat frail looking pops to move to Holland since he had been living alone in England for the past eight years.

Joining Alistair at the “Alistair Overeem Training Center” to prepare for the fight are Todd Duffee and Jared Rosholt.

If you judge Alistair and Brock’s training partners by MMA Math (and really, who doesn’t?), neither one has a marked advantage over the other, but “The Demolition Man” may have a slight edge, depending on how you carry the 1. Rosholt’s 125-27 collegiate wrestling record is trumped by Lesnar’s teammate Cole Konrad’s 155-13 mark, while Duffee KO’ed Death Clutch hired gun Tim Hague, who choked out Brock’s striking coach Pat Barry.

Finally, the former Strikeforce heavyweight champ expounded briefly on his recent drug testing issue with the Nevada State Athletic Commission, explaining that he did what was asked of him to the best of his ability.

 

 

Duane Ludwig Happy to Have UFC Record, Whether Commission Recognizes It or Not

Filed under: UFCDuane Ludwig was at the post office when he found out that he was now a UFC record-holder.

“It was kind of funny, the timing of it,” he said. The UFC lightweight was right in the middle of mailing off one of his signature ‘Bang’ jersey…

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Duane LudwigDuane Ludwig was at the post office when he found out that he was now a UFC record-holder.

“It was kind of funny, the timing of it,” he said. The UFC lightweight was right in the middle of mailing off one of his signature ‘Bang’ jerseys as a Christmas gift for UFC matchmaker Joe Silva, when he got word that the UFC was officially recognizing his 2006 knockout of Jonathan Goulet as the fastest in the organization’s history.

“We all know Joe’s kind of shorter in stature, but I was so excited about what was going on that I almost sent him a double extra-large jersey,” Ludwig said. “It just showed my mind wasn’t on the task at hand.”

For Ludwig, it meant a successful end to a campaign to get his eleven-second win over Goulet officially changed to a four-second stoppage, which would make his knockout the fastest in UFC history — faster than heavyweight Todd Duffee’s seven-second KO of Tim Hague in 2009 or Chan Sung Jung’s seven-second finish of Mark Hominick earlier this month.

But then, a lot depends on how you define the term ‘officially,’ and who you look to to make that distinction.

It’s a discussion we probably wouldn’t be having right now if not for one suspect time-keeper’s call in January of 2006. At a UFC Fight Night event at the Hard Rock Casino in Las Vegas, Ludwig fired off a single right hand that sent Goulet crashing head-first to the mat almost as soon as the fight began. When referee Mario Yamasaki rushed in to stop it, the clock showed four minutes and 56 seconds left in the first round. But somehow, when it was entered into the official record, Ludwig’s win went down as an eleven-second finish rather than a four-second one.

To Ludwig, the difference seemed insignificant at first. He might not have even known about the discrepancy had UFC color commentator Joe Rogan not alerted him to it, he said.

“Joe Rogan actually MySpaced me — this was back when we were all using MySpace — and he told me, hey, you got screwed on the timing. I didn’t really care at the time. I said, you know, thanks and I appreciate it, but I didn’t really understand marketing back then.”

It wasn’t until three years later, when Duffee made headlines with a seven-second knockout that was immediately declared the fastest in UFC history, that Ludwig began to realize that there was real value in the distinction.

“When Todd Duffee got all that recognition for getting the fastest knockout record in seven seconds, I thought, well, that’s actually mine, and in four seconds,” said Ludwig. “Back when it actually happened, I didn’t care about the publicity or anything, but now that I’m getting older and, I guess, wiser, I understand marketing a little bit and I know that can help me and help me help others.”

Ludwig began to push for the timing of his win to be officially changed — a goal he said was supported by UFC president Dana White. When MMA Fighting’s Ariel Helwani asked White about it in an interview after UFC 140 in Toronto, Ludwig said, that’s when things started to snowball.

“Ariel Helwani, he helped a lot because he was the first guy to publicly put Dana White on the spot about it. It wouldn’t have happened any other way, so that was really cool of him.”

On December 24, White sent out a tweet to Ludwig telling the fighter “for x mas you have the fastest KO in UFC history and it will be changed ASAP.” The news made Ludwig “happy as a clam,” he said.

But the question is, which records will reflect the change? The UFC has no control over the official time, which is kept in this case by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. That governing body has thus far shown very little eagerness to admit a nearly six-year-old mistake and make the requisite changes. The NSAC offices were closed due to the holidays on Monday, and requests for comment on the matter went unreturned, but UFC officials indicated that the change could be entirely internal, with the UFC altering the records on its website and recognizing Ludwig as the holder of the organization’s fastest knockout regardless of whether the NSAC is willing to do the same.

And according to Ludwig, that would be just fine with him.

“A lot of people still don’t even know that the UFC has these athletic commissions, that they’re governed by a third party,” he said. “And of course, we know that the commissions sometimes make questionable calls, so I think the more credible source is the UFC anyway. I’m a hundred percent fine with the UFC being the one to make it official. I’d prefer that, actually.”

The way Ludwig sees it, it’s not so much about re-writing history as it is about getting the recognition he feels he’s already earned. As long as the UFC and MMA fans acknowledge what he did and allow him to honestly lay claim to the record, he said, he’s unconcerned with what the athletic commission decides to do.

“Every athlete is always looking for a way to separate himself from the pack. This is a record that will probably never be [broken]. It never happened before, and it’ll probably never happen again. It’s definitely a cool thing to have next to your name,” he said, adding, “It’s also a good story to tell the kids. When I’m old and telling that story I can joke with them and go, you better go to bed because I can knock you out in four seconds.”

 

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Tim Hague Believes His Path Back to the UFC Runs Through 51-Year-Old Maurice Smith


(Maurice Smith? I thought he was dead.)

Twice fired UFC heavyweight Tim Hague is determined to get back to the Octagon, but his choice of opponent for his upcoming fight likely won’t garner him another invite to the big show from matchmaker Joe Silva.

Hague (13-5), who spent a week at Brock Lesnar’s Death Clutch gym to help the former UFC heavyweight champion prepare for his UFC 141 fight with Alistair Overeem is slated to take on aging UFC veteran Maurice Smith (12-13) in Brazil on January 20 under the Kumite Combate banner.


(Maurice Smith? I thought he was dead.)

Twice fired UFC heavyweight Tim Hague is determined to get back to the Octagon, but his choice of opponent for his upcoming fight likely won’t garner him another invite to the big show from matchmaker Joe Silva.

Hague (13-5), who spent a week at Brock Lesnar‘s Death Clutch gym to help the former UFC heavyweight champion prepare for his UFC 141 fight with Alistair Overeem is slated to take on aging UFC veteran Maurice Smith (12-13) in Brazil on January 20 under the Kumite Combate banner.

For those of us who thought Smith had retired, he pretty much did.

The 51-year-old, who is old enough to be Hague’s dad, hasn’t fought since 2008 when he lost to Hidehiko Yoshida by neck crank a Sengoku 3. That bout was only his third since being dropped by the UFC in 2000 after a loss at UFC 28.

Hague, 28, is 1-0 since being dropped by the UFC this time around with a win over 40-year-old 20-22-1 fighter Vince Lucero who is winless in his last 10 fights. “The Thrashing Machine” is 1-4 in five UFC starts with a win over Pat Barry and losses to Todd Duffee, Chris Tuscherer, Joey Beltran and Matt Mitrione.

Fastest KO in UFC History: You Be the Judge

The great thing about MMA is the fact that a fight could be over in a split second—as you make your way to the fridge for that cold can of Budweiser to settle down and enjoy the nights proceedings…Boom, and it’s over. That’s th…

The great thing about MMA is the fact that a fight could be over in a split second—as you make your way to the fridge for that cold can of Budweiser to settle down and enjoy the nights proceedings…Boom, and it’s over.

That’s the beauty of the sport, and one of the reasons that in some respects it surpasses boxing with regards to entertainment value and the expectation of the unexpected—favorites are never really the favorites unless they have the monikers of “The Spider,” “Rush” and “Bones,” attached to their handles.

At UFC 140 we witnessed one of the fastest KOs in Ultimate Fighting Championship history, courtesy of Chan “The Korean Zombie” Sung Jung’s (almost a one punch KO) knockout of Mark Hominick, add in a few “it ain’t over till the fat lady sings” strikes, and it was job done.

A KO no less that earned him Knockout out of the Night honors.

Still, there are others who could easily have the accolade of fastest knockout in UFC history bestowed upon them.

 

So here are the nominees for the fastest KO in UFC history

Todd “Duff Man” Duffee vs. Tim “The Thrashing Machine” Hague: UFC 102

Duane “Bang” Ludwig vs. Jonathan “The Road Warrior” Goulet: UFC Fight Night 3

Chan Sung Jung vs. Mark “The Machine” Hominick: UFC 140

And the winner is?

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Exclusive: Never Back Down 2 Interview With Scottie Epstein and Michael Jai White

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MMA flick Never Back Down 2: The Beatdown got its DVD release last week, which means it’s time to find out if Todd Duffee’s Oscar buzz is legit. We sent CagePotato L.A. correspondent Scott Palmer to a ‘NBD2‘ media event at 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu West L.A. earlier this month, where he spoke to director/star Michael Jai White and co-star and one of the film’s fight choreographer’s Scottie “Einstein” Epstein about the movie-making process.

A few highlights and an incredible GIF of  the thespian version of The Duffman in action are after the jump.


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MMA flick Never Back Down 2: The Beatdown got its DVD release last week, which means it’s time to find out if Todd Duffee’s Oscar buzz is legit. We sent CagePotato L.A. correspondent Scott Palmer to a ‘NBD2‘ media event at 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu West L.A. earlier this month, where he spoke to director/star Michael Jai White and co-star and one of the film’s fight choreographer’s Scottie “Einstein” Epstein about the movie-making process.

Check out some of the highlights and an incredible GIF of  the thespian version of The Duffman in action:


• Epstein says that they spent a lot of time making sure that the film’s fight scenes were as realistic as possible to avoid the scrutiny of fans, who take umbrage when MMA bouts in movies seem more like a scene from a Steven Segal film than an actual fight.

• MJW says that wearing the hats of director, actor, and fight coordinator wasn’t an easy task, but he feels he was up for the challenge.

• Epstein says MMA fans who have followed the sport for any length of time will have fun trying to figure out which actual fight finishes they mirrored the stoppages in NBD2 after.

• MJW compares Epstein’s behavior on set to that of crazy diva Diana Ross.

• There will be a Black Dynamite 2 as well as a BD cartoon.

• Scott was in a movie years ago with Mike Tyson, Robert Downey Jr, Scott Caan, Jared Leto, Bijou Phillips, Raekwon, Brooke Shields, Ben Stiller, Method Man, Ghostface Killah, Sticky Fingaz and Chuck Zito.

The movie is available in stores for purchase or you can buy or rent it online at outlets like Amazon and iTunes.

Check out the trailer HERE.