UFC 164: An Atypical Pre-Fight Interview with UFC Heavyweight Josh Barnett

As a writer who has made a career out of doing interviews and features, I have come to learn that timing means everything. When fighters are locked in the repetitive media grind of fight week or in the middle of cutting weight, there are times when get…

As a writer who has made a career out of doing interviews and features, I have come to learn that timing means everything. When fighters are locked in the repetitive media grind of fight week or in the middle of cutting weight, there are times when getting through a basic pre-fight interview can be a grueling affair for both parties involved.

Unfortunately, with the hectic schedule of recent years, sometimes those chaotic, fading moments surrounding fight week are the only windows of opportunity to get the quotes you need for a story.

Before the interview ever takes place, you know the fighter you are about to speak with has been asked a variation of the same 10 questions over and over and is heading into your phone call dreading to hear those questions asked one more time save for a different voice on the line.

As writers, we understand the reality of this situation, but the pre-fight interview is a necessary evil. That being said, it’s always nice to shake things up now and again.

The hope is that the subject of the interview will find this unique batch of questions as a breath of fresh air and have a bit of fun in the process. 

When it comes to taking things off the beaten path, there may be perhaps no subject better suited for several minutes in the obscure than Josh Barnett.

The former UFC heavyweight champion is a lover of all things metal and has slick, silver-tongued mic skills when he’s working the promotional realm. Inside the cage, “The Warmaster” is one of MMA‘s most storied submission artists and has left a path of destruction in his wake over the course of his 16-year career.

Yet one of the most compelling chapters of the 35-year-old’s journey is set to begin when he makes his long-awaited return to the Octagon at UFC 164. It has been over 11 years since the savvy veteran last waged war inside the Octagon, and in one of the rare “dream matchups” he will lock up with fellow former champion and submission ace Frank Mir next Saturday night in Milwaukee.

With his co-main event tilt drawing ample attention, the chance to give Barnett a break from the typical media grind seemed to be a suitable option.

This is what transpired.

 

You are a man of action and have proven this time and time again throughout your career. I want to start things off talking about the Bronson/McQueen factor. Charles Bronson and Steve McQueen are both legendary action-flick badasses, and if you had to pick your favorite of the two, with whom would you side?

“Oh that’s tough because they both played great movie tough guys, but they were very different characters. Charles Bronson ran around in Death Wish III with a .475 Wildey Magnum, which is a pretty awesome handgun. It’s all stainless steel and gas-operated, but I’m going with McQueen because as much as I love all of Charles Bronson’s movies, Bullitt was probably better than all of them combined. Steve McQueen was a big-time racing aficionado, and I think he scored a lot more poontang than Charles Bronson.” 

 

Being formerly known as the “Baby-Faced Assassin” and returning to the UFC heavyweight division, do you feel as soon as you signed on the dotted the line that the handsome factor went up exponentially?

“I do, but not only in the handsomeness department but in manliness as well. With this beard of mine, I think everything took a giant leap into the realm of heroic levels of manliness.”

 

I’ve had the pleasure of witnessing your dance skills firsthand when you battled Daniel Cormier at the Fight! Magazine party in Columbus back in March of 2012. I know you are a busy man, but have you had a chance to expand your already dangerous dancing repertoire?

“Some of it is actually off the fly, man. You just have to feel the music and let it move you. I haven’t put a lot of time into dancing with this fight specifically, at least not as much as other fights. But if a beat hits the arena, the feet just have to go. You can’t hold that kind of rhythm and power that is deep within your soul. You can’t hold it in or you might get an aneurysm.”

 

In this fight with Mir, we media types and fans of the sport are looking at this as a matchup of the two premier submission artists in the sport’s history. Do you see it that way, or is there another fighter outside of yourself and Mir who is possibly the greatest of all-time?

“The G.O.A.T. of heavyweight submission guys…yeah, I guess you can say that. I know I had [Antonio Rodrigo] Nogueira caught and he wasn’t going anywhere, and [Mir] broke Nogueira’s arm. He would probably be the only other guy you could look at as being the heavyweight submission G.O.A.T. I just hope someone has at least made us a little belt in addition to whatever purse we get for this fight. Even if it was made of just tin foil, I’ll take it.”

 

The city you are about to fight in is as blue-collar as they come. I know you are a California guy but your fighting style is very in-your-face; you get in there and get to it. Milwaukee is an industrial city. What is like being able to bring your game there?

“Well, I think it’s a benefit for them if they get the opportunity to hang out and watch me. That’s what it is. Any city in this great world of ours would be blessed to have me step foot into it.”

 

I know you enjoy a good epic. Do you believe your return to the UFC draws any parallels to Odysseus returning to Ithaca at the conclusion of the Odyssey? Minus the beggar part of course.

“Yeah, well I am going to have to fight a Cyclops to get in there. If any of you are unfamiliar with the story, at least you can download the song “The Odyssey” by Symphony X. That will get you caught up. But just like Odysseus, I’m hoping there are plenty of Sirens out there trying to lure my crotch to its doom afterwards.”

 

Well played Mr. Barnett. Well played indeed.

 

Duane Finley is a featured columnist for Bleacher Report. All quotes are obtained firsthand unless noted otherwise.

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Frank Mir, Ben Rothwell Receive TRT Exemptions for UFC 164 (Update)

For those of you keeping an eye on the TRT scoreboard, you can add two names to the list at UFC 164.
Heavyweights Frank Mir and Ben Rothwell, both of whom compete on the main card in Milwaukee next Saturday, have received TRT exemptions leading up the …

For those of you keeping an eye on the TRT scoreboard, you can add two names to the list at UFC 164.

Heavyweights Frank Mir and Ben Rothwell, both of whom compete on the main card in Milwaukee next Saturday, have received TRT exemptions leading up the fight.

This isn’t the first time for Mir, who received an exemption for his UFC 146 title fight against Junior dos Santos. Since the fight with dos Santos, Mir also fought Daniel Cormier, which also resulted in a loss for the former heavyweight champion.

As for the Wisconsinite, this is the first confirmed time that Rothwell will receive one. His latest fight was a submission loss to Gabriel Gonzaga.

TRT has been a hot-button issue with the UFC, since men like Chael Sonnen, Dan Henderson and Vitor Belfort have brought the issue front and center most times they fought. All three men still use it to this day, though most pundits believe it is a “legal” form of cheating in the sport.

Mir fights UFC returnee Josh Barnett in the co-main event, who will not be getting a TRT exemption despite speculation he might. It is a matchup of grapplers that fans have been waiting on for a long time.

“Big Ben” will meet Brandon Vera, who makes his return to the heavyweight division after a long run at 205. When it was released that Rothwell would receive the TRT exemption, Vera was quoted as saying, “It won’t help.”

TRT will continue to be a hot-button issue moving forward. For now, it will stay legal, until further push for stricter guidelines are put into place. For a guy with a natural ailment like Sonnen, it may be okay, but for a guy with past steroid use like Belfort, it should get the eventual shutdown.

Stay tuned with Bleacher Report for more news on the upcoming UFC 164.

Update: The Wisconsin DSPS did not confirm that the exemptions were for TRT, but it was confirmed that Rothwell applied for some sort of exemption. If there is any new update, it will be posted.

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UFC 164: Early Preview and Predictions for Henderson vs. Pettis, Barnett vs. Mir

UFC 164 is a mere 10 days away, so what better time to take a look at the top two fights and offer some early predictions?
In my latest video offering for Bleacher Report, I take a look at the lightweight title fight between Benson Henderson and Anthon…

UFC 164 is a mere 10 days away, so what better time to take a look at the top two fights and offer some early predictions?

In my latest video offering for Bleacher Report, I take a look at the lightweight title fight between Benson Henderson and Anthony Pettis. The pair faced off in the final World Extreme Cagefighting event, where Pettis used the now-infamous Showtime Kick to help wrest control of the WEC lightweight title away from Henderson. 

Pettis was supposed to go on to fight for the UFC lightweight title after the win. But these things usually have a funny way of working out, and it was Henderson who fought for and captured the UFC belt instead. Now, a few years later, Pettis is finally getting his chance at the belt, while Henderson is looking for redemption.

What else could you possibly want in a fight?

In the co-main event, we have my own personal dream match: Josh Barnett vs. Frank Mir. I’ll tell you why I cannot wait for this fight in the video, and I’ll also tell you who will win the heavyweight showdown and how he’ll do it.

Check out the video above and let me know your thoughts on each of these fights in the comments below.

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[VIDEO] Terrorist Beards, Showtime Kicks and Pseudo Death Threats Abound the UFC 164 Preview

(Video via UFC Youtube)

In case you were somehow sleeping on UFC 164: Henderson vs. Pettis II, which takes place August 31st in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, don’t. The card is relatively stacked and the new extended UFC 164 video preview gives you a sneak peak at the night’s two biggest bouts — a lightweight title rematch between champion Benson Henderson (who is rocking a Jon Jones-esque terrorist beard these days) and Anthony Pettis and a heavyweight submission artist clash between former champions Frank Mir and Josh Barnett.

If you’ve watched the UFC for more than 10 years and enjoy living in that past (I know, too on point, is it not?), you’ve got to be pretty geeked about Mir vs. Barnett. Both men are behemoths that somehow possess slick ground skills. Both men are also charismatic and skilled shit-stirrers that became champions at an early age and have managed to remain competitive at the highest levels for over a decade. Will this match up be a test of who has the better Jitz (Mir, after all, does threaten to “drown” Barnett with his submission game in the above video, whatever that means) or will their grappling skills cancel each other out and turn Mir vs. Barnett into a slugfest? I HAVE NO IDEA BUT WATCH THIS ANYWAY.


(Video via UFC Youtube)

In case you were somehow sleeping on UFC 164: Henderson vs. Pettis II, which takes place August 31st in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, don’t. The card is relatively stacked and the new extended UFC 164 video preview gives you a sneak peak at the night’s two biggest bouts — a lightweight title rematch between champion Benson Henderson (who is rocking a Jon Jones-esque terrorist beard these days) and Anthony Pettis and a heavyweight submission artist clash between former champions Frank Mir and Josh Barnett.

If you’ve watched the UFC for more than 10 years and enjoy living in that past (I know, too on point, is it not?), you’ve got to be pretty geeked about Mir vs. Barnett. Both men are behemoths that somehow possess slick ground skills. Both men are also charismatic and skilled shit-stirrers that became champions at an early age and have managed to remain competitive at the highest levels for over a decade. Will this match up be a test of who has the better Jitz (Mir, after all, does threaten to “drown” Barnett with his submission game in the above video, whatever that means) or will their grappling skills cancel each other out and turn Mir vs. Barnett into a slugfest? I HAVE NO IDEA BUT WATCH THIS ANYWAY.

UFC 164′s main event between Henderson and Pettis is a rematch of their late 2010 WEC title bout that featured a kick none of you have probably ever seen or heard about. And honestly, the setting is pretty much same, with Henderson playing the role of the reigning champion and Pettis trying to once again steal his crown in dramatic fashion.

Since losing a close decision to Pettis, Henderson has looked impressive in winning several (seven, to be exact) close decisions against some of the world’s best. Pettis, on the other hand, has won seven out of his last eight fights including his last three — two of those by way of KO.

Milwaukee is Pettis’ hometown and we will soon find out if fighting there for the belt will lift him up or if the pressure will become a burden. Do you think Pettis has what it takes to take out Henderson again, nation, or do you think Henderson has improved enough to even the score with the challenger?

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Frank Mir Not Ready to Concede That He Can No Longer Contend for UFC Gold

Only two fights into his professional career Frank Mir joined the UFC at age 22, and it didn’t take him long to be noticed by heavyweights with a whole lot more experience.
Mir’s career trajectory didn’t take him directly to a title shot, but after a l…

Only two fights into his professional career Frank Mir joined the UFC at age 22, and it didn’t take him long to be noticed by heavyweights with a whole lot more experience.

Mir’s career trajectory didn’t take him directly to a title shot, but after a loss to Ian Freeman in his fifth pro fight, he learned a valuable lesson and came back a much better fighter.

Mir finally captured the UFC heavyweight title in 2004 when he literally snapped Tim Sylvia’s arm to win the belt in one of the most memorable stoppages in MMA history.

Since that moment, Mir has competed for either the UFC heavyweight title or the interim UFC heavyweight title a total of four more times. He captured the interim belt on one other occasion, but hasn’t been able to reach the top of the mountain again since his initial run back in 2004.

Now as he enters his bout against former UFC champion Josh Barnett at UFC 164, Mir will for the first time ever look to stop a two fight-losing streak, while maintaining his standing in the division.

Mir may have competed for the UFC heavyweight title just two fights ago, but as the losses mount and his inability to win the gold again haunts him, he’s entering the fight with Barnett facing a bit of uncertainty in his career.

While some former champions are able to move forward and no longer focus on the belt, Mir just can’t become one of those guys.

“I don’t concede the fact of just trying to put on great fights,” Mir said during a UFC conference call on Tuesday. “Obviously the outcome of my drive is to work back towards the title. I don’t see it as a situation where that’s no longer within my grasp.”

Mir has consistently been ranked near the top of the heavyweight division for most of his UFC career, but his recent losses in title fights coupled with a growing division full of contenders pushes him further and further to the fringe.

No matter what the rest of the top 10 looks like, Mir isn’t ready to give up on the chance to fight for a belt again.

People have counted him out in the past, for instance when a motorcycle crash nearly ended his career and put Mir on the shelf for almost two years. When he returned, Mir lost two out of his next three fights, and it seemed he was no longer an elite fighter.

Mir didn’t give up, and was able to battle back, winning his next three fights in a row while taking home the interim UFC title along the way.

So if that was Mir version 2.0, consider this a third restart when everyone is counting him out after two straight losses. He’s not giving up on his dream of becoming champion again, and he refuses to believe it’s out of reach.

“The training I’m doing now, where I’m at in life, being only 34 years of age, I don’t really see it as an issue to concede to the fact that ‘oh I’m only going to fight to be an entertaining fight, just added onto a card’,” Mir said. “That’s just not where I’m at in my life.”

A win at UFC 164 over a fighter like Barnett will go a long way to proving Mir is still relevant in the heavyweight division title picture. A loss, however, would be devastating, marking three defeats in a row.

Mir’s real title fight might just be avoiding the label of gatekeeper, and he has the chance to do that next Saturday night in Milwaukee.

Damon Martin is a Featured Columnist for Bleacher Report and all quotes were obtained firsthand unless otherwise noted.

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Josh Barnett Isn’t Sure What Belt Frank Mir Held but It Wasn’t the UFC Title

By the time Josh Barnett steps into the Octagon at UFC 164, more than 10 years will have passed between appearances.
Barnett started out in the UFC heavyweight division in the dark days of MMA when the promotion was struggling to find a foothold after …

By the time Josh Barnett steps into the Octagon at UFC 164, more than 10 years will have passed between appearances.

Barnett started out in the UFC heavyweight division in the dark days of MMA when the promotion was struggling to find a foothold after being banned in several states, and removed from pay-per-view.

He stuck around long enough to see Zuffa LLC buy out the UFC, and made it all the way to the heavyweight title before leaving the organization in 2002. Barnett never got the chance to defend the belt because he was stripped of the title after testing positive for a banned substance after the fight, although he battled in an appeal with the Nevada State Athletic Commission and maintains his innocence to this day.

Two years later the belt passed to a young gun named Frank Mir, and he was considered the new embodiment of grappling excellence in the UFC.

Because both fighters were known as submission artists, Barnett and Mir continued to be mentioned in the same circles over the better part of the next decade. Despite their apparent similarities, however, Barnett doesn’t buy into the idea that he and Mir were always on the same career path and just never happened to meet before now.

When Barnett left the UFC and ended up in Japan as part of Pride Fighting Championships, the heavyweight division there—not in the Octagon—was considered the real cream of the crop in MMA.

“I think we’ve always kind of been in different places for both of our careers really,” Barnett said when speaking to MMA’s Great Debate Radio. “Even when he was fighting for titles, no one ever took my belt from me, so I don’t what belt they were putting around (his waist) but that wasn’t the UFC heavyweight title as far as I was concerned.

“I was in Pride fighting the universally recognized top dudes in the world at the time. I come back to the UFC, and the UFC is now the premiere place to be for mixed martial arts in the world, but at this point Frank’s best days have already occurred.”

Both Mir and Barnett have shared space in the MMA top-10 rankings for most of the last 10 years as well—a rare feat in this sport where fighters come and go quite often and don’t usually stick around at the top of a division for that long.

According to the current UFC rankings, Mir is listed at No. 6 while Barnett is slotted in at No. 10. Barnett has always done his best to avoid the entire discussion around rankings because ultimately it’s a subjective list, but deep down he can admit there is a fire that gets lit when he sees certain fighters put ahead of him.

“I don’t really care too much about rankings,” Barnett said. “I definitely didn’t get obsessed with it when I saw how biased they were, especially after being out of the UFC. There’s a little part when you see it that’s like ‘That idiot thinks that, really?’. It gives you that much more motivation when you’re in there and getting your workouts done.”

When it comes to his next opponent, Barnett believes that Mir’s constant standing in the rankings has come more from him being in the UFC than actually beating the best fighters in the world while still in their primes, but he’s excited to see just what he’s all about when they face off in the Octagon.

“I’ve got to be honest, a lot of Frank’s relevancy was based on being in the UFC,” Barnett said. “That’s the way I see it. I want to how much potential there really is there by fighting him.”

Barnett knows going into the fight that Mir’s best weapon is his devastating Brazilian jiu-jitsu game. Out of his 16 career wins, Mir has submitted nine past opponents, and was the first person to ever finish Pride legend Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira by submission.

His record speaks for itself, but Barnett says for all the accomplishments that Mir has had, he’s never faced a fighter like him.

“I don’t think he’s going to be able to find any training partners that can grapple the way I do” Barnett said.   “Even still, I believe when it does hit the ground I can shut down his offense and make him pay for being underneath.”

A win for Barnett would immediately put him into title discussion for a number of reasons beyond just beating a former UFC champion like Mir.

With Cain Velasquez and Junior dos Santos already matched up at UFC 166 to conclude their trilogy of fights, the division doesn’t have a clear cut contender sitting in the top spot for the next title shot.

Former Strikeforce fighter Fabricio Werdum seems like the most likely candidate, but the UFC has yet to guarantee him or anyone else for that matter as the next person in line for a shot at the belt. Travis Browne also entered the conversation with his win over Alistair Overeem last weekend at UFC Fight Night 26.

Still, Barnett’s history, record and pedigree make him an interesting entry into title discussions and while it’s virtually impossible to think he’d get a shot at the belt after a win over Mir, his name will be tossed into contention.

Once Barnett’s foot is in the door, it’s hard to keep him from kicking it down, and he’s looking forward to making his first UFC title defense. Yes, you read that correct—since Barnett never lost the UFC heavyweight title in a fight, he believes whoever he faces for the gold now will be competing for the real championship.

“For me if I’m issued a title shot, when I walk in the ring in my mind, I’m not fighting to win the UFC championship—I’m actually making my first title defense,” Barnett said. “That’s the way I see it.”

Damon Martin is a Featured Columnist for Bleacher Report and all quotes were obtained firsthand unless otherwise noted.

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