Don’t Worry, Ronda Rousey Fans, She’s Still a Long Way from GOAT Status

The soundtrack to Ronda Rousey’s UFC career has always been a ticking clock.
Rousey is so special, her talent so glaringly cant-miss, that we’ve always known we couldn’t keep her forever. Someday, somebody’s going to come along …

The soundtrack to Ronda Rousey’s UFC career has always been a ticking clock.

Rousey is so special, her talent so glaringly cant-miss, that we’ve always known we couldn’t keep her forever. Someday, somebody’s going to come along and offer her a boatload of money for a job that doesn’t involve getting punched in the face, and then she’ll be gone.

Each time we’ve watched Rousey defend her UFC women’s bantamweight title—as she will against Cat Zingano on Saturday at UFC 184—we’ve been haunted by fears that it could be the last time. When she spent a substantial stretch away from the cage during 2013 to appear in a couple of movies, we thought it was the beginning of the end.

But perhaps there’s suddenly good news on that front. Leading up to her clash with the undefeated Zingano, there is actually less trepidation about a potential Rousey retirement than ever before.

Maybe that’s partly because there are big-money challenges right around the corner from people like Holly Holm and Cris “Cyborg” Justino. Maybe it’s partly because, if anything, our fears overlooked the champ’s own competitive fire.

Suddenly, Rousey sounds like she’s in no hurry to leave us behind.

At a press event earlier this week, she said she’ll fight until she considers herself the greatest of all time. At any weight class. Man or woman.

“I’ll know when I reach the point, like, ‘OK, I’m the most dominant and the greatest of all time,’” Rousey said, via MMAFighting.com’s Mark Raimondi. “I know that I’m there and I’ll be ready to hang up my gloves and move on. But whether or not anyone else sees it that way doesn‘t matter. Because I’ll see it that way.”

This obviously is a very Ronda Rousey thing to say. If her goal, however, is to keep fighting until she can lay legitimate claim to being the GOAT, it should set our minds at ease.

She’s got a long way to go before she’s even in that conversation.

As good as Rousey has been, she’s only been in the UFC a hair longer than two years. To be considered a serious threat to usurp fighters like Anderson Silva, Georges St-Pierre or Fedor Emelianenko for all-time great status could take another decade.

Remember that from 2001-09, Emelianenko won more than twice as many fights in a row (27) as Rousey has had in her entire career (10). Prior to his initial loss to Chris Weidman at UFC 153, Silva likewise reigned as middleweight champion for more than six-and-a-half years. That’s longer than Rousey has even been a professional fighter.

Silva additionally went 3-0 fighting at light heavyweight and unified his title with the Pride welterweight championship when he beat Dan Henderson at UFC 82. Emelianenko ruled Pride during a time when its crop of heavyweights was the best in the world and had legendary rivalries with greats like Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira and Mirko Cro Cop.

Could Rousey ever surpass the accomplishments of these great champions? Maybe, but she’d have to stick around an awful lot longer than we’ve previously thought possible.

Could she ever eclipse the promotional power of St-Pierre? Maybe not ever.

During his two stints as welterweight champion from 2006-13,GSP established himself as the UFC’s king of pay-per-views. The 13 events where he appeared as champion averaged a bit more than 758,000 buys each. Rousey’s drawing power, meanwhile, is a bit murkier.

She took on Miesha Tate in the co-main event of UFC 167, which—with Silva-Weidman II as its other main event—sold an estimated 1.025 million units. Likewise, her most recent appearance against Alexis Davis, as the co-main of UFC 175 (supporting Weidman vs. Lyoto Machida), also sold well, at an estimated 545,000 buys.

Yet the two events she has headlined on her own have been significantly less successful. Neither her UFC 157 debut against Liz Carmouche nor her UFC 170 fight with Sara McMann crested 500,000 buys. What does that mean, exactly? Nobody is sure, though her meeting with Zingano this weekend might shed a bit more light on the subject.

If the event outperforms expectations, perhaps it will be seen as a sign that Rousey is bringing significant numbers of paying customers to the table. If it doesn‘t? It could mean she’s still got a way to go.  

One thing we can say without reservation, however: Rousey is no St-Pierre. She’s no Emelianenko. She’s no Silva. Not close. Not yet.

None of this is her fault, by the way. She’s been nothing short of a revelation since coming to the UFC from Strikeforce in 2013. You can’t watch her fight or cut an interview or just stand there in a room without being struck by her innate charisma. She has it. She has “it” to spare.

But she’s not the greatest MMA fighter of all time. Not by any meaningful metric.

In fact, at this stage in the game it’s impossible to know if Rousey will ever get the chance to vie for GOAT status. Surely she’s already a step behind fellow champion Jon Jones in that race to the top. Unless Jones unexpectedly breaks stride, she likely won’t ever catch him.

The UFC also hasn’t done Rousey’s legacy any favors, preferring to couch the 135-pound division as a one-woman show. Every great fighter needs great competition, and so far Rousey hasn’t had a ton of it. Unless future foes like Zingano, Holm or and/or Cyborg prove to be more formidable than her past opponents, it’s tough to see Rousey building a resume that will stack up alongside other all-time greats.

In any case, she doesn’t seem to care about resumes. Or metrics. Or what anybody else thinks. Not caring, in fact, is one of her defining characteristics and a big part of her considerable star power.

“I’m trying to be as dominant as possible,” she said, via Raimondi. “… But I can only control what’s put in front of me to control, not how people perceive my accomplishments.”

Rousey’s accomplishments to date have been phenomenal. But if what she wants is to be regarded as the greatest of all time, it won’t happen overnight. It doesn’t happen in two years and four fights in the UFC. It won’t happen tomorrow. It won’t even happen next year.

But hey, if that means we get more time with Ronda Rousey, nobody will complain.

 

Statistics on pay-per-view buys courtesy of Wrestling Observer Newsletter (h/t MMAPayout.com).

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Rousey vs. Zingano: Odds, Comments and Predictions for UFC 184

One by one, Ronda Rousey has emphatically finished every challenger that’s come her way. Fight by fight, Cat Zingano hasn’t let anyone stop her on her march to the top. 
At UFC 184, the two undefeated women will stand across from one another in th…

One by one, Ronda Rousey has emphatically finished every challenger that’s come her way. Fight by fight, Cat Zingano hasn’t let anyone stop her on her march to the top. 

At UFC 184, the two undefeated women will stand across from one another in the Octagon and only one will leave with that precious zero in the loss column.

The odds-on favorite to be that woman is Rousey. The champion’s undefeated streak is a little different to her challenger’s. Zingano has had to escape the clutches of defeat. She’s looked mortal. She’s been taken down in each of her UFC bouts thus far.

Rousey has retained her undefeated status with the kind of dominance that meant she spent exactly one minute and 22 seconds defending her belt in the Octagon last year. Her average fight lasts two minutes and 37 seconds.

Still, this is MMA. Coming off a card that featured 10 upsets in 11 fights, assuming is not a prognosticator’s friend in this sport. 

Here’s a look at the tale of the tape, latest odds and build up to the main event, along with a prediction as to who will emerge with the belt around her waist on Saturday night.

 Odds via Odds Shark as of Thursday, Feb. 26 at 8 p.m. ET.

 

What They’re Saying

Ronda Rousey isn’t usually one to mince words. She’s almost as well known for her willingness to say whatever is on her mind as she is for her ferocity inside the cage. 

Yet, you’ll be hard pressed to see many disparaging or even aggressive quotes addressed toward Cat Zingano. Holly Holm or Arianny Celeste may be a different story, but the champion hasn’t had much to say about the opponent she’ll meet in Los Angeles because she doesn’t see much point in saying much, given Zingano’s toughness, per Elias Cepeda of Fox Sports:

Cat is different because not only is she undefeated but she has the kind of indomitable spirit that I haven’t seen exhibited by anyone else, at the level that she has. …

She’s been down in fights before, and every single time, she’s come back and finished the other person. And given everything she’s been through lately in her life outside of fighting, I really feel like she’s one of those people that’s impossible to intimidate, so I don’t even try.

While Rousey describes the toughness and perseverance that Zingano has demonstrated in her career, another word to describe the contender could be quiet. The challenger doesn’t have much of a history of pre-fight talk and hype. Unsurprisingly, there hasn’t been much talk about Rousey from the Alpha Cat’s camp.

That doesn’t mean she isn’t confident, though. “I don’t feel like she’s been challenged the way she will with me,” Zingano told Michael Martinez of UFC.com. “I feel like I’m a different, complete pedigree than anyone she’s ever been against, and I think she knows that as well.”

There’s some truth to Zingano’s statement. She represents a challenge Rousey has yet to face in her title reign. We’ve seen Rousey take on good grapplers but none who appear to be as big and strong as the Alpha Cat.

One look at the third round of Zingano’s fight with Miesha Tate reveals the type of power and—cardio—Rousey will be dealing with. Zingano finished that fight with brutal knees to Tate after nearly falling prey to an armbar in the second round.

 

Prediction

On paper, Zingano has a path to victory. That’s more than could be said for most of Rousey’s opponents. 

Given the power that Zingano has proved she has on the feet, and the cardio it took to pick up three of her nine career victories by way of (T)KO in the third round, hypothetically, Zingano’s odds of winning increase with every round she survives. 

For all of Rousey’s greatness, her cardio is not something we’ve seen tested. The champion has been out of the first round just once: a third-round submission of Tate.

With Zingano earning the same result, her ability to finish fights as the rounds go by is more proven. If she can just find a way to make it out of those first one or two rounds without submitting, she could set up an interesting three rounds to close out the fight.

However, there’s just one problem with that theory. The challenger has been known to get off to slow starts. Amanda Nunes landed 21 significant strikes to Zingano’s three in the first round of her most recent UFC bout. Tate also outlanded her in the first frame of their bout.

There’s also the fact that she was taken down by both Nunes and Tate. 

As Rousey pointed out in her quote, Zingano has made a living out of rallying despite the odds. But that’s a different order entirely when going against a fighter of Rousey’s caliber.

Rousey by first-round submission (armbar).

 

All bout and card information via UFC.com. All statistics via FightMetric unless otherwise noted.

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UFC 184 Rousey vs. Zingano: B/R Main Card Staff Predictions

This coming weekend is something of a celebration for women’s mixed martial arts, with UFC 184 featuring an all-female main and co-main event for the first time in the organisation’s history—not to mention Invicta FC 11 on Friday.
The appea…

This coming weekend is something of a celebration for women’s mixed martial arts, with UFC 184 featuring an all-female main and co-main event for the first time in the organisation’s history—not to mention Invicta FC 11 on Friday.

The appeal of UFC 184 may have taken a slight hit with the loss of Chris Weidman vs. Vitor Belfort for the middleweight title, but Saturday night’s card from the Staples Center still has plenty to offer both hardcores and casuals alike.

The main event features the long-awaited contest between Ronda Rousey and Cat Zingano for the UFC women’s bantamweight title. We can also look forward to Holly Holm making her UFC debut against The Ultimate Fighter veteran Raquel Pennington, Jake Ellenberger vs. Josh Koscheck, Alan Jouban vs. Richard Walsh and Tony Ferguson vs. Gleison Tibau.

As ever, Bleacher Report MMA is on hand to guide you through this weekend’s main attraction. Read on for the views of Scott Harris, Craig Amos, Riley Kontek, Sean Smith and yours truly, James MacDonald.

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UFC 184: Rousey vs. Zingano Fight Card, TV Info, Predictions and More

The ladies take center stage at UFC 184 on Saturday night at the Staples Center in Los Angeles, California. “Rowdy” Ronda Rousey will defend her UFC women’s bantamweight title against Cat Zingano in the main event.
Raquel Pennington greets undefeated a…

The ladies take center stage at UFC 184 on Saturday night at the Staples Center in Los Angeles, California. “Rowdy” Ronda Rousey will defend her UFC women’s bantamweight title against Cat Zingano in the main event.

Raquel Pennington greets undefeated and highly touted prospect Holly Holm to the promotion in the co-feature. The most prominent men’s bout is a battle of desperate veteran welterweights on separate three-fight losing streaks. Jake “The Juggernaut” Ellenberger faces Josh “Kos” Koscheck in what equates to a crossroads bout for both men.

Here’s a look at the entire card with predictions for each bout and viewing information. Just below the table is a closer look at the predictions for the top three fights on the schedule.

 

The Juggernaut Will Finish Kos

Neither Ellenberger nor Koscheck have looked impressive in recent memory. However, when you take into consideration the way Koscheck has dropped his last two fights, the fact that he hasn’t fought since Nov. 2013 and that he is 37 years old, it’s hard to see him winning. Both fighters pack a decent punch, but the edge in power belongs to Ellenberger.

Koscheck has been viciously stopped in his last two fights. There’s no telling how much physical and emotional damage the losses to Tyron Woodley and Robbie Lawler have done. All signs point to an Ellenburger victory by knockout.

According to Mike Bohn of MMAjunkie, Koscheck wants to finish his career with the UFC, and he believes the layoff was good for him.

“I think this time off was a great opportunity for me to improve in a lot of areas, especially becoming a more complete fighter,” Koscheck said. “The time off was well needed. I’ve had a long career with the UFC, and I think that this time off was important time, but also I improved in a lot of areas I needed to improve in.”

That all sounds good, but I can’t ignore the signs that say this is the end of the line for Kos.

 

Holm is Too Big, Strong and Athletic for Pennington

Pennington is one tough cookie and an underrated grappler. She proved that in her submission win over Ashlee Evans-Smith. That said, Holm is an elite athlete with next-level striking skills from her days as a professional boxer. She also has strong shoulders, hips and legs. Holm has worked hard to build good takedown defense so that she can ensure the fight can be waged on her terms.

Pennington will try to take this fight to the ground, but Holm will fight her off, press her against the cage and wear her down. In the second round, Holm will finish the fight with strikes on her exhausted opponent.

 

Rousey Will Win a Tough and Gritty Bout

This fight will have its share of anxious moments, but Rousey will prove her toughness and resiliency. Zingano is not just physically strong; she’s also skilled as a striker and wrestler.

Even with all of those things going for her, Zingano will fall just short of pulling the upset. Rousey‘s grappling game is just too good, and she’s smart enough to understand Zingano is a different type of an opponent than she’s faced before.

Don’t expect Rousey to spend a lot of time trading in the striking game. She knows she can’t match strength with Zingano there. Instead, Rousey‘s stand-up approach will be to jab, try to control distance and to pick her spot to go for the takedown.

This will be an excellent fight and a top candidate for Fight of the Night, but Rousey will win it with an armbar in the fourth round to retain her title.

 

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UFC 184 Weigh-in Results: Rousey vs. Zingano Fight Card

UFC 184 is just a day away, but the fighters have to step on the scale to make weight before everything becomes official.
The 11-fight event is headlined by Ronda Rousey taking on No. 1-ranked contender Cat Zingano for the 135-pound belt. It is a battl…

UFC 184 is just a day away, but the fighters have to step on the scale to make weight before everything becomes official.

The 11-fight event is headlined by Ronda Rousey taking on No. 1-ranked contender Cat Zingano for the 135-pound belt. It is a battle of undefeated fighters. The co-main event features Raquel Pennington welcoming undefeated Holly Holm to the UFC.

The UFC 184 weigh-ins take place at 7 p.m. ET, and Bleacher Report will have all the happenings for you when the fighters tip the scale. Come back for all the news coming from Los Angeles on Friday evening.

 

UFC 184 Fight Card

  • Ronda Rousey vs. Cat Zingano
  • Raquel Pennington vs. Holly Holm
  • Jake Ellenberger vs. Josh Koscheck
  • Alan Jouban vs. Richard Walsh
  • Tony Ferguson vs. Gleison Tibau
  • Mark Munoz vs. Roan Carneiro
  • Roman Salazar vs. Norifumi Yamamoto
  • Dhiego Lima vs. Tim Means
  • Derrick Lewis vs. Ruan Potts
  • James Krause vs. Valmir Lazaro
  • Masio Fullen vs. Alexander Torres

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Raquel Pennington Ready to Derail Holly Holm’s Hype Train at UFC 184

Raquel “Rocky” Pennington knows she’s fighting an uphill battle at UFC 184, but it’s the opportunity she’s been waiting for.
While the Colorado native will appear in the co-main event slot opposite of UFC newcomer Holly Holm, The Ultimate Fighter alum …

Raquel “Rocky” Pennington knows she’s fighting an uphill battle at UFC 184, but it’s the opportunity she’s been waiting for.

While the Colorado native will appear in the co-main event slot opposite of UFC newcomer Holly Holm, The Ultimate Fighter alum is certainly on the lower end of the hype scale. This rings especially true when cast in the shadow of the headlining bout on the card that will feature women’s bantamweight phenom Ronda Rousey putting her title on the line against undefeated scrapper Cat Zingano.

The talk during fight week is that UFC 184 will be a historic night for women’s MMA, and while Pennington is embracing the high tide of the moment, she’s also looking to capitalize on it as well. She will be welcoming the highly touted former boxing champion to life inside the Octagon, and Rocky is determined to spoil Holm‘s debut.

She knows she’s the underdog and figured by many to be a steppingstone for The Preacher’s Daughter’s introduction to the biggest stage in MMA, but the 26-year-old Altitude MMA representative has plans of her own. Her bout on Saturday night has the potential to be the biggest moment of her young career, and Pennington is ready to handle business in Los Angeles.

“This is a great opportunity for me,” Pennington told Bleacher Report. “Holly is riding a huge hype train, and she did what she needed to do in order to get to the UFC. She’s done great things throughout her boxing career, and she’s off to a great start in her MMA career. At the end of the day, we may be the co-main event due to Holly’s hype train or whatever it is, but I like to see it as an opportunity I deserve. 

“I believe I deserve it just as much as she does. My hard work is finally paid off, and that’s the way I like to see it. I don’t want to completely give her and her hype all of the credit I guess you could say.

“I take it for what it is. I’ve been on The Ultimate Fighter, and there is a lot of pressure in that situation. I kind of learned through that experience to put all the pressure aside, have fun and make sure to go out there and enjoy what I’m doing. Just take things as they come. When this fight against Holly was scheduled I was excited because it’s a great fight against a great opponent.”

While Pennington has been cast in the long-shot role for her upcoming fight, she is familiar with the feeling. Although she’s only been fighting as a professional for three years, she has already faced seasoned veterans during her time inside the cage, fighting the odds in the majority of those tilts.

Yet, with Holm being a new addition to the UFC and all of her previous fights coming in her home state of New Mexico, Pennington believes she’ll have a few advantages of her own at UFC 184.

“I’m definitely being underestimated in this fight,” Pennington said. “I’m the underdog, and I’ve always been the underdog in all of my fights in my career. It’s not something that truly bothers me. I guess you could say it takes the pressure off me. I’ve fought some top names, and I’ve never turned down a fight. I’ve fought whoever they have put in front of me, and that’s what it’s about.

“This is a competitive sport, and everyone wants to be the champion. Everyone wants to get to the top, and I think every female fighter brings something different to the table. You have to face a new challenge every single time. I don’t know why you’d go out and look for certain opponents in order to work your way toward that title shot. Especially in the UFC where the women’s bantamweight division is still so small.

“Why not fight everyone?”

When the cage door closes Saturday night, the opportunity Pennington has been working toward will come front and center. That said, she’ll have a difficult test with the striking acumen her opponent will bring to the Octagon.

Holm‘s boxing skills are second-to-none in women’s MMA, but the Jackson/Winkeljohn-trained fighter also possesses solid kickboxing abilities as well. That said, Pennington has been known to bring an aggressive attack directly to her opposition, and the Colorado Springs-based fighter believes she will have what it takes to push Holm beyond her limit.

“I definitely think I can break her,” Pennington said. “Holly is just another fighter and another human being. None of us are invincible. We are all breakable, and I think that’s part of what being a smart fighter is. It’s part of being a determined fighter with a huge heart. I think I carry all of those qualities, and you can never predict the way a fight may go. At the end of the day, I want to go in the cage, fight my fight and control it. 

“My goal is to fight for the world title. I think with Holly coming in with her hype train and everything she’s done in her career so far, it’s the perfect opportunity. A win over Holly will bump me up that much further in my career.”

 

Duane Finley is a featured columnist for Bleacher Report. All quotes are obtained firsthand unless noted otherwise.

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