Ontario’s Amateur MMA Scene: A Study in Absurdity


(It’s as if the province of Ontario is giving us the middle finger at every waking moment.) 

When you report on all things MMA for a living (or at least claim to) like we here at CP do, it becomes a rarer and rarer occurrence that something truly blows our collective minds. A botched drug test here, a DWI/Domestic Assault arrest here — none of these things really surprise us in the sense that they are completely unheard news stories. Rather, it is often the whos and whats of a given case that give us food for thought. In other words, it is not everyday that we are treated to a rampage across Southern California that really makes us sit back and ponder the peculiarity of a given situation.

Today is one of those days, Potato Nation.

For you see, our buddies at Fightlinker managed to come across a story originally reported by Sportsnet’s Joe Ferraro that involved Canada’s ever-budding amatuer mixed martial arts scene, and we felt the need to pass it along.

But first, a little backstory. For those of you keeping track, Ontario did not legalize mixed martial arts until the beginning of 2011, but the Ontarian (yes, that’s what they call themselves) response was overwhelmingly positive. UFC 129 became the fastest selling card in UFC History, selling over 55,000 tickets in just over two days. We’re talking about a card that had Jake f’ing Shieldzzzzz in the main event, people. The UFC returned to Ontario at UFC 140, and in both occasions, saw the usual mix of enthusiastic and knowledgeable fans in attendance, something that cannot be said for many other venues.

So one would think that when it came to determining a set of rules for which amateur MMA would be governed by, Ontario would have more than an infinitesimal inkling as to how the sport they loved so much was run. You would be wrong. So, very, very wrong.


(It’s as if the province of Ontario is giving us the middle finger at every waking moment.) 

When you report on all things MMA for a living (or at least claim to) like we here at CP do, it becomes a rarer and rarer occurrence that something truly blows our collective minds. A botched drug test here, a DWI/Domestic Assault arrest here — none of these things really surprise us in the sense that they are completely unheard news stories. Rather, it is often the whos and whats of a given case that give us food for thought. In other words, it is not everyday that we are treated to a rampage across Southern California that really makes us sit back and ponder the peculiarity of a given situation.

Today is one of those days, Potato Nation.

For you see, our buddies at Fightlinker managed to come across a story originally reported by Sportsnet’s Joe Ferraro that involved Canada’s ever-budding amatuer mixed martial arts scene, and we felt the need to pass it along.

But first, a little backstory. For those of you keeping track, Ontario did not legalize mixed martial arts until the beginning of 2011, but the Ontarian (yes, that’s what they call themselves) response was overwhelmingly positive. UFC 129 became the fastest selling card in UFC History, selling over 55,000 tickets in just over two days. We’re talking about a card that had Jake f’ing Shieldzzzzz in the main event, people. The UFC returned to Ontario at UFC 140, and in both occasions, saw the usual mix of enthusiastic and knowledgeable fans in attendance, something that cannot be said for many other venues.

So one would think that when it came to determining a set of rules for which amateur MMA would be governed by, Ontario would have more than an infinitesimal inkling as to how the sport they loved so much was run. You would be wrong. So, very, very wrong.

First, let’s take a look at some of the more glaring observations that Ferraro made when looking through Ontario’s AMMA rulebook:

– MMA has seven weight classes. This group believes amateur MMA should have 12.

– I do not believe MMA should ever consider using standing eight counts, like they do in boxing or kickboxing. This organization believes amateur MMA should use standing eight counts.

– If you land a “Jump Kick to (the) Head,” you are awarded three points. “Jump Kick to (the) body” will garner you two points.

If you have not figured it out yet, by looking at the link to the rules above, yes, the organization that runs the sport of amateur MMA in the province is Kickboxing Ontario, as well as, Kickboxing Canada, aka CASK (Council of Amateur Sport Kickboxing). And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, but what they are doing can and should be modified to better reflect amateur MMA, and not kickboxing.

After reading over the rulebook myself, I found that the classes outside of the standard seven in MMA include Light Bantam, Light Welter, Light Middle, Cruiser, and Super Heavy, which is fine if that’s what Ontario wants to do. It’s a tad ridiculous considering that these weight classes will only exist at one place in the world, but if Ontario wants to add Rumbleweight, Franklinweight, and Moneyweight to their rankings, fine.

But then my eyes passed over the phrase “standing eight counts.” In MMA. If the very thought of that concept filled you with a sense of constipated, sickening anxiety and befuddlement, then you are not alone. Aside from being the main argument *against* boxing pundits beliefs that MMA is more dangerous than boxing, it makes about as much sense as a screen door on a submarine. How does one enact an eight count in a sport where a fighter is allowed to follow his opponent to the canvas to finish him off, or possibly work for a submission? Perhaps this is why MMA rules and regulation shouldn’t be, as Ferraro pointed out, run by a kickboxing organization. At least if they are not even going to attempt and understand the sport they have been put in charge of.

And don’t even get us started on this “Jump Kick to (the) Head” scoring bullshit. According to those rules, Edson Barboza would have walked away from UFC 142 with not only his FOTN and KOTN bonus, but a promotion, a new car, and a lifetime supply of Plinko chips.

Now let’s move on to some of the observations made by Ferraro at the amateur MMA event itself, the first of which took place the day before he even arrived. Warning: you may come away from this with a newfound respect for Steve Mazzagatti and Kim Winslow:

When I arrived at the venue on Sunday morning, even before I walked in I received a phone call from two concerned (and bitter) coaches, whose experiences the day before were extremely disappointing. To make a long story short, they watched a bout where a fighter dominated his opponent, knocked him down to the ground and when he went to finish him off, his opponent pulled his arm inside and held him tight. The referee apparently stopped the bout and gave the win to the bottom fighter, for a “near submission.” Apparently, all hell nearly broke lose.

Having instigated more than a few montage-interrupting riots, food fights, and full on tribal wars in my day, I can say that in this occasion, a retaliation of Brobdingnagian proportions would have been justified. Let’s continue:

Back to paying attention to the action, where my heart sunk as I watched what the aforementioned coaches and athletes all said would take place. Things like during the bout taking place at 10:45 a.m., the referee halted the action and stood the competitors up (apologies, as I was unable to retrieve their names) so one of them could adjust his headgear. I have no issue with that, but when the bout was restarted, it was done so in the standup and NOT where it should have been restarted — on the ground.

The same thing took place during the bout taking place at 11:17 a.m., where the two competitors were stood up and restarted after grappling themselves out of bounds. During the bout at 11:24 a.m., one fighter submitted his opponent. I saw the tap. But the referee stood them up and they began competing again. Another tap, another standup, another restart.

(I later found out that this is “how it is.” A submission ends the round, and the next round commences. I later discovered, but was unable to confirm, that one competitor earned two submissions, but lost round three. The tally from the scorecards had him losing the bout. Preposterous? For the average folk, yes. Knowing what I know, it is “how it is.”) 

Now you’ve done it, Ontario. Through some immeasurable level of shitbrained incompetence, you’ve actually managed to make it appear as if Chael Sonnen wasn’t trolling us when he stated that he “misunderstood the rules” of tapping in his first bout with Anderson Silva. A tap ends the round?! ENDS THE ROUND?! ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT THE SAME SPORT?! I FEEL LIKE I’M TAKING CRAZY PILLS!!!

You think this is over? THINK AGAIN.

I actually walked away during this bout, as two minutes later, at 11:26 a.m., unlike the description in its Rules and Regulations, the “safety zone” was not present around the competition area. One competitor executed a double leg takedown on the perimeter, finishing off the technique on the concrete floor. Now I have held tournaments in the past. I have promoted MMA in and outside of a cage. I have been a part of and witnessed hundreds upon hundreds of grappling and MMA events, but this was a first. A scary one, but it paled in comparison to what ended my day.

I actually returned a few hours later to the very area where I was scared for the safety of the two competitors. Next to the mats was a ring where “K-1 Rules” bouts were taking place. I watched in sheer horror as one competitor knocked out his opponent, who stiffened up in mid-air and landed like a two-by-four onto the mat.

He lay there motionless as I waited for the referee to tend to his safety. Instead (and I do not fully blame her as she has surely not been trained and certified CORRECTLY), the ref simply made sure that the one fighter remained in the neutral corner, while conducting an eight count… ON A FIGHTER WHO WAS OUT COLD. We cringed as the youngster lay motionless for the better part of 20 seconds and I had enough… I made my way to the barricade but stopped when I saw the paramedics enter the ring, albeit with no sense of urgency. Again, I had enough and left.

As a huge proponent of amateur MMA, and amateur combat sports in general, I must say that this is nothing short of horrifying to come across. For Christ’s sake, Michael Vick treated his dogs with more care and understanding than the so-called “officials” of a sport that, while ever-improving in its safety (except for in Ontario, of course), has proven that it can still be deadly if the correct procedures are not followed, and even when they are. Unbelievable.

As Ferraro also concluded, although it is great to see any new region accept MMA, doing so in this seemingly rushed, incoherent fashion is not only blindingly stupid for everyone involved, but a serious threat to the safety of those who choose to participate. Those in charge of this unnamed organization best make some changes before holding another event, or it is going to be all too clear who to blame when the worst case scenario plays out.

J. Jones

Cory MacDonald vs. Brendan Seguin, Ryan Ford vs. Luis Santos Added to May 4 Bellator 67 Card in Ontario

A middleweight bout between Canadian standout Cory MacDonald (12-2) and well-travelled veteran Brendan Seguin (23-17-1) and a welterweight scrap between former TFC champion Ryan Ford (17-4) and WEC veteran Luis Santos (50-7-1) have been added to Bellator’s May 4 Bellator 67 card, set for Casino Rama in Rama, Ontario. CagePotato.com learned of the MacDonald-Seguin pairing and confirmed the rumored Ford-Santos bout today from sources close to both bouts.

A middleweight bout between Canadian standout Cory MacDonald (12-2) and well-travelled veteran Brendan Seguin (23-17-1) and a welterweight scrap between former TFC champion Ryan Ford (17-4) and WEC veteran Luis Santos (50-7-1) have been added to Bellator’s May 4 Bellator 67 card, set for Casino Rama in Rama, Ontario. CagePotato.com learned of the MacDonald-Seguin pairing and confirmed the rumored Ford-Santos bout today from sources close to both bouts.

MacDonald has been relatively inactive the past two years, having only fought (and won) twice, but sources say the reason for his lack of action was a shortage of opponents willing to face him in Canada. The Kingston, Ontario native, who holds a win over UFC vet Edwin Dewees and seemed en route to a win over fellow Canuck Jonathan Goulet until a freak injury forced his corner to throw in the towel after the first round, will log time training for the bout at Tristar in Montreal. He decided to move to middleweight in the hopes of attracting more opposition and he’ll get a formidable opponent in Seguin who has fought a lion’s share of the sport’s toughest fighters.

“The Caucasian Devastation” holds wins over UFC vets Jake Ellenberger, Kyacey Uscola, Rob Kimmons and Goulet. During his 12-year career he also fought Denis Kang, Joe Doerksen, Dean Lister, Joey Villasenor and Martin Kampmann. Seguin hasn’t lost since dropping a decision to Forrest Petz in 2009.

Ford will finally make his Bellator debut on the card after legal and contract issues with his former manager, Mark Pavelich who owns the Maximum Fighting Championship put him at odds with the Chicago-based promotion after the Canadian promoter sent BFC a cease and desist letter claiming that “The Real Deal” was still an MFC fighter. It seems that both sides have settled their differences and are moving forward.

Arguably the biggest win of Ford’s career came against Karo Parisyan last May. Since then he has gone 2-1, including a surprise loss to David Hulett for the Aggression MMA welterweight strap in September.

Santos has the edge in experience over “The Real Deal” in the experience department, however, with 36 more fights. The husband of fellow fighter Carina Damm, “Sapo” won a hard-fought decision over Dan Hornbuckle in the opening round of Bellator’s season 5 tournament, only to be submitted via highlight-reel keylock by Ben Saunders in the second round.

No other bouts have been announced for the card.

EXCLUSIVE: Several Promotions Including Strikeforce Apply for Promoter’s Licenses in Ontario

(Now that MMA is legal in Ontario, the bandwagon will undoubtedly carry in a glut of Dana White wannabes. Let’s hope the OAC knows how to weed out the legit promoters from the scumbags.)
It looks like the UFC might get beaten to the proverbial punch…

(Now that MMA is legal in Ontario, the bandwagon will undoubtedly carry in a glut of Dana White wannabes. Let’s hope the OAC knows how to weed out the legit promoters from the scumbags.)

It looks like the UFC might get beaten to the proverbial punch when it comes to holding the inaugural sanctioned MMA event in Ontario.

CagePotato.com has learned from a source close to the situation that several promotions, including San Jose-based Strikeforce and Edmonton’s Maximum Fighting Championship have applied for promoter’s licenses in Ontario and pending approval by the Ontario Athletic Commission, at least three shows have been penciled in ahead of the UFC’s April 29 show in Toronto.

Although none of the shows have been given the go-ahead by the province as of time of writing, a number of venues have been tentatively reserved — some by first-time promoters — across the province in such locales as Toronto, Ottawa, Hamilton and Orillia. 

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