UFC on Fox 8: Rory MacDonald Versus Jake Ellenberger: Who Is the Future?

Jake Ellenberger and Rory MacDonald represent to many the predicted future of the welterweight division.
They are fighters who feature in far more hypothetical matchups against top competition currently than they have in actual ones. And, consequently,…

Jake Ellenberger and Rory MacDonald represent to many the predicted future of the welterweight division.

They are fighters who feature in far more hypothetical matchups against top competition currently than they have in actual ones. And, consequently, there are still a great many unanswered questions about both young men. Both have already picked up crushing defeats—MacDonald being stopped by Carlos Condit and Ellenberger being stopped by Martin Kampmann.

MacDonald is a fighter whom I examined in brief detail last week. Constant comparisons to Georges St-Pierre aside, he certainly shows all the signs of a good prospect. MacDonald follows game plans to the letter and is unrelenting in his pursuit of the victory rather than hoping for Fight of the Night bonuses and coming to brawl.

Scrappers like Chris Leben are a dime a dozen, and they are certainly present on every card for early evening entertainment, but they don’t get to the big paydays, and they barely ever get a whiff of a world title.

MacDonald does, however, lack big fight experience—beating Nate Diaz at welterweight as pretty much any elite wrestler will. His only other fights of note are his loss to Condit and his victory over B.J. Penn. While MacDonald made Penn look woefully overmatched, he was, after all, fighting a lightweight who relies on a counter jab to win fights on the feet.

I am sorry to bring it up again, but I cannot quite wrap my head around Penn’s thought process when he decided that, as a fighter who relies heavily on his jab, he would fair well in a weight class where he would give up reach to almost everyone he fought.

MacDonald’s bout with Condit certainly told us a good deal about his potential but highlighted the fact that it was only potential, and experience and grit can often win out against athleticism and technical prowess.

While we can’t take much away from MacDonald’s bout with Penn in assessing his striking ability because more than two-thirds of the bout was essentially target practice, going even on the feet with Condit is quite a feat for an elite welterweight, let alone a young prospect. 

If anything can be learned from the Condit bout it is that MacDonald—despite his vacuous media appearances and cold, technical game—can be drawn into emotional bouts and exhausted in the process. MacDonald almost tired himself out in his defeat of Penn as he was so keen on making an impression that he resorted to showboating.

Some fighters fight well angry. Most just get distracted from what they are supposed to be doing and swing wild, tense up and gas out.

Between jumping knees, high kicks and swinging hooks while chasing Condit, MacDonald not only expended a lot of energy but ended up shooting in on Condit poorly and getting turned over and beaten down by a fighter who is just far more experienced in bad spots than MacDonald.

Ellenberger, for his part, is equally athletic and well rounded in his offense. Storming into the forefront of the UFC welterweight division, after some wins over middle tier fighters by smashing Jake Shields in the latter’s return to action after a loss to St-Pierre for the title, Ellenberger simply overwhelmed and overpowered the veteran with superior power on the feet and a complete disregard for Shields’ nonthreatening striking. 

Ellenberger suffered a similarly self-inflicted setback to MacDonald’s loss to Condit.

Ellenberger’s folly came when he met the savvy Kampmann. Kampmann, more than any other fighter in the UFC, is a slow starter. Just a look at his last few fights will confirm this: Thiago Alves beat him from pillar to post before succumbing to a guillotine and, most recently, Johny Hendricks caught Kampmann bouncing around before his feet were able to keep up with his brain. 

In Ellenberger‘s loss to Kampmann, he showed exactly the kind of emotional over-commitment that plagued MacDonald in his pursuit of Condit. After catching Kampmann early, it was all Ellenberger as he swarmed over Kampmann.

With no thought for what was coming back, Ellenberger swung combinations, which became less and less tight. By the time that Kampmann caught a right on his forearm and fired back his own, he could have driven a car through the space between Ellenberger‘s right swings and left ones.

The short right straight caught Ellenberger leaning in and worked its way straight down to his boots. On wobbly feet Ellenberger was finished by the same brutal collar tie knees that he had used to drop Shields in his biggest win to that date.

As slow of a starter that Kampmann is, these short counters are the kind that can easily fell MMA fighters between their broadside blows. Just yesterday I was rewatching the ageing Archie Moore floor the always passionate and granite-jawed Rocky Marciano with just such a short right.

Both Ellenberger and MacDonald can be pointed to as fighters whose only significant loss came from a lack of discipline under fire.

Ellenberger is a cracking counter puncher, and when he sits back and treats a fight as a hunt he is certainly something special—it is when he gets drawn into a chase that he gets wild and forgets himself. You can swarm all over the Shields of the world because they aren’t going to throw anything back, but that’s not true of men like Kampmann and Condit.

MacDonald’s over-commitment to one-upping Condit—trading front kicks to the face anyone?—in a fight in which he already had two rounds in the bag led him to the point of exhaustion and got him trapped underneath Condit and finished. 

These losses ultimately came to two of the most opportunistic fighters in MMA—if you give Kampmann or Condit an inch, they will take a country mile—but these are the sort of flaws that will be tested by legitimate top-five fighters in elite camps. Kampmann and Condit are incredible gatekeepers for this reason.

I, of course, have no idea who will win the bout and wouldn’t want to hazard a prediction—indeed, today I was simply throwing out some of my thoughts on noticeable chinks in the mental armor of these two fighters.

As a quick analysis, I would say that the longer the fight goes the better it is for MacDonald, who strikes well in volume and will have more success wrestling Ellenberger down the stretch. I would say that Ellenberger‘s best bet is to look for his counter punches.

MacDonald often comes in jabbing with his head high and can lunge straight onto punches. Ellenberger has far superior head movement to MacDonald and does good work in exchanges—it is in his interest to get these going hard, and often before the match wears on, MacDonald gets comfortable and can start kicking him around.

With the volatile nature of both men it could well end up being a back-and-forth battle of knockdowns and submission attempts—but it would be nice to see one man show a more disciplined approach and avoid taking unnecessary blows on the way in due to excitement.

 

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Get to Know UFC on FOX 8?s Germaine de Randamie via These Brutal Knockout Videos

(Props to our buddies at Fightlinker for the find. Fight starts at the 3:45 mark.)

It would be no understatement to say that the casual MMA fan probably knows less than usual about the participants on this weekend’s UFC on FOX 8: Johnson vs. Moraga card. Containing a few more hidden storylines and unknown faces than the average pay-per-view, UFC on FOX 8 is one of those “sleeper” cards alright, which usually means that we’ll be in for a surprisingly good time come fight night (see the TUF 16 Finale).

And perhaps the least known of all the fighters competing on Saturday’s card is (no, not John MoragaGermaine de Randamie, the Dutch kickboxer and Strikeforce veteran who will be taking on the highly celebrated Julie Kedzie on the FX prelims.

At just 3-2 in professional competition, even us hardcore fans can’t claim to know all that much about “The Iron Lady.” Based on her past Muay Thai and kickboxing endeavors, however, we can determine that Randamie at least partially compensates for her grappling deficiencies by packing a serious wallop on the feet. See the above video of her Muay Thai bout with Angela Rivera, which ends with one of the more brutal head kick KO’s in recent memory, for an example of this. Oh, right, SPOILER and all that.

After the jump: “The Iron Lady” fights a Belgian actor, yes, actor, because this is a strange, beautiful and oft confusing sport that we follow.


(Props to our buddies at Fightlinker for the find. Fight starts at the 3:45 mark.)

It would be no understatement to say that the casual MMA fan probably knows less than usual about the participants on this weekend’s UFC on FOX 8: Johnson vs. Moraga card. Containing a few more hidden storylines and unknown faces than the average pay-per-view, UFC on FOX 8 is one of those “sleeper” cards alright, which usually means that we’ll be in for a surprisingly good time come fight night (see the TUF 16 Finale).

And perhaps the least known of all the fighters competing on Saturday’s card is (no, not John MoragaGermaine de Randamie, the Dutch kickboxer and Strikeforce veteran who will be taking on the highly celebrated Julie Kedzie on the FX prelims.

At just 3-2 in professional competition, even us hardcore fans can’t claim to know all that much about “The Iron Lady.” Based on her past Muay Thai and kickboxing endeavors, however, we can determine that Randamie at least partially compensates for her grappling deficiencies by packing a serious wallop on the feet. See the above video of her Muay Thai bout with Angela Rivera, which ends with one of the more brutal head kick KO’s in recent memory, for an example of this. Oh, right, SPOILER and all that.

After the jump: “The Iron Lady” fights a Belgian actor, yes, actor, because this is a strange, beautiful and oft confusing sport that we follow.

Props to this Tom Waes character for not holding back; chivalry be damned. Bigger props to Randamie for shattering the glass ceiling (and probably Waes’ jaw) with that monster right hook. Good night Irene…uh…Irving?

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Four Hidden Storylines For ‘UFC on FOX 8: Johnson vs. Moraga’

By Adam Martin

There’s often so much going on during UFC on FOX events that some of the more intriguing storylines get lost amongst all the glamour and glitz of network television. Here are four important themes surrounding UFC on FOX 8: Johnson vs. Moraga that have been flying under the radar heading into this weekend’s show. Let us know what you think, and be sure to come back to CagePotato.com this Saturday night at 8 p.m. ET / 5 p.m. PT for our liveblog of the main card.

Is UFC On FOX 8 Make Or Break For The Flyweights?

UFC on FOX 8 is headlined by the flyweight title fight between reigning champion Demetrious Johnson and challenger John Moraga, and it’s a fight that could help the flyweight division explode if it’s exciting — or hold the division back if it’s a bore.

The last time that 125-pounders headlined an event was at UFC on FOX 6, when Johnson defended his title against John Dodson. The match won “Fight of the Night,” but that might not be the first thing that fans think of when they remember the event. Instead, they think of Anthony Pettis’s body kick KO of Donald Cerrone, or (for less positive reasons) Rampage Jackson’s last Octagon fight against Glover Teixeira.

It may be because flyweight fights so often go to decision, and the fans, especially casual fans, love to see knockouts and submissions. But it’s rare to see true KO power among 125-pound fighters, and the fact that flyweights tend to be extremely quick and nimble makes it harder for submissions to get locked in.

Demetrious Johnson certainly fits this stereotype, as he’s managed to go 27 rounds in his UFC career without securing a single stoppage victory. But Moraga has been an exception to the rule. Both of his Octagon appearances have ended in pleasingly violent finishes. Unfortunately, those finishes — a knockout of Ulysses Gomez at UFC on FOX 4 and a guillotine-choke submission of Chris Cariaso at UFC 155  — were both buried on the opening preliminary bouts of the cards they were on. In other words, even if you attended those events in person, you might have missed them. Despite being a title challenger in a main event fight on FOX, Moraga is still a stranger to most fans.

By Adam Martin

There’s often so much going on during UFC on FOX events that some of the more intriguing storylines get lost amongst all the glamour and glitz of network television. Here are four important themes surrounding UFC on FOX 8: Johnson vs. Moraga that have been flying under the radar heading into this weekend’s show. Let us know what you think, and be sure to come back to CagePotato.com this Saturday night at 8 p.m. ET / 5 p.m. PT for our liveblog of the main card.

Is UFC on FOX 8 Make or Break for the Flyweights?

UFC on FOX 8 is headlined by the flyweight title fight between reigning champion Demetrious Johnson and challenger John Moraga, and it’s a fight that could help the flyweight division explode if it’s exciting — or hold the division back if it’s a bore.

The last time that 125-pounders headlined an event was at UFC on FOX 6, when Johnson defended his title against John Dodson. The match won “Fight of the Night,” but that might not be the first thing that fans think of when they remember the event. Instead, they think of Anthony Pettis’s body kick KO of Donald Cerrone, or (for less positive reasons) Rampage Jackson’s last Octagon fight against Glover Teixeira.

It may be because flyweight fights so often go to decision, and the fans, especially casual fans, love to see knockouts and submissions. But it’s rare to see true KO power among 125-pound fighters, and the fact that flyweights tend to be extremely quick and nimble makes it harder for submissions to get locked in.

Demetrious Johnson certainly fits this stereotype, as he’s managed to go 27 rounds in his UFC career without securing a single stoppage victory. But Moraga has been an exception to the rule. Both of his Octagon appearances have ended in pleasingly violent finishes. Unfortunately, those finishes — a knockout of Ulysses Gomez at UFC on FOX 4 and a guillotine-choke submission of Chris Cariaso at UFC 155  — were both buried on the opening preliminary bouts of the cards they were on. In other words, even if you attended those events in person, you might have missed them. Despite being a title challenger in a main event fight on FOX, Moraga is still a stranger to most fans.

Johnson and Moraga are definitely under pressure to perform this weekend. If the fight ends in a boring, five-round unanimous decision, I don’t think the fans are going to be buying the flyweights going forward — and the UFC is already planning to have them headlining pay-per-views in the future. But if the fight ends in a spectacular finish? That could be the first step towards real interest in the division.

It’s make-or-break time for the flyweights at UFC on FOX 8. Now let’s see if they’re up for the challenge.

Will Rory MacDonald Be the Man to Dethrone Georges St-Pierre?

Canadian Rory MacDonald, who just turned 24, is quickly moving up the welterweight ranks, and a fight between MacDonald and UFC welterweight champion Georges St-Pierre is going to be bandied about should “Ares” win in impressive fashion against Jake Ellenberger this weekend in the co-main event of UFC on FOX 8.

Of course, there’s a big problem with that matchup and it’s the fact that MacDonald and St-Pierre are longtime teammates and friends at TriStar Gym in Montreal. As MacDonald recently said on The MMA Hour: “We’re not fighting. Me and Georges are friends, we’re training partners. We’ll have our own arrangements and figure it all out when the time comes. It’s not going to come to us fighting.”

Then again, money has a way of changing people’s minds. (See also: “I back.“) Right now, there are only a few fresh contenders left for St-Pierre at welterweight: Johny Hendricks, who GSP faces next at UFC 167 in November; Ellenberger, who may get a title shot with a win over MacDonald; Demian Maia, who is quickly moving up the 170-pound ladder; Erick Silva, who the UFC would love to fast-track to a title shot thanks to his growing popularity in Brazil; and MacDonald, the quiet Canadian with a killer’s glare in his eyes.

After watching MacDonald embarrass BJ Penn, Che Mills, Mike Pyle, Nate Diaz and Mike Guymon, and put up a hell of a fight against Carlos Condit, MacDonald could be the UFC welterweight champion in a few years. It’s not Hendricks or Ellenberger or Maia who has the potential to take the belt away from St-Pierre, it’s the young Canuck MacDonald, and he can solidify his position as heir to the welterweight throne with a victory over Ellenberger this weekend.

Michael Chiesa: From TUF Winner To Potential Lightweight Contender

Michael Chiesa has one of the best stories in sports, but the UFC has done a terrible job promoting him even though he is on his way to becoming a contender in the lightweight division.

Just days after entering the TUF 15 house, Chiesa’s father passed away, but instead of letting the tragedy paralyze him, Chiesa instead used it for strength, and ended up running the table by defeating all of his opponents on his way to capturing the Ultimate Fighter crown. Not bad for a 25-year-old from Spokane, Washington.

After defeating Anton Kuivanen at UFC 157 in his first post-TUF fight in the UFC, Chiesa is now 9-0 as a professional (with seven of those wins by submission inside the first two rounds) and he takes his undefeated record into the cage this weekend in a lightweight battle against Jorge Masvidal that headlines the FX prelims.

It’s obvious the UFC sees the tremendous talents that Chiesa has, and wants to test him against a tough opponent like Masvidal. And it’s a fight that, if he wins, will move Chiesa up from the list of TUF winners who never amount to much to that rare class of TUF winners who have a legitimate shot of holding a UFC title.

Look for Chiesa to use the hometown crowd to his advantage this weekend as he attempts to overcome the odds yet again and take out the far-more experienced Masvidal. And if he does, look for Chiesa to be fighting someone in the top 10 in his next fight, something which seemed unthinkable just over a year ago when the scraggly, lanky, Cody McKenzie-lookalike who no one ever gave a chance first appeared on the UFC’s reality show.

Aaron Riley’s Last Stand 

It’s possible that one of the pioneers of the sport will be competing in his last mixed martial arts bout this weekend, as veteran Aaron Riley returns from a two-year injury layoff to take on Justin Salas on the Facebook prelims of UFC on FOX 8.

The owner of a 30-13-1 MMA record, Riley has been competing in the sport since 1997, and despite having an up-and-down career he’s somehow managed to keep a job with the top fighting promotion in the world. It’s a testament to the excitement he always delivers in the cage and his will to overcome injuries and continue on with his career when it likely made more sense to retire, especially following broken jaws in his fights against Ross Pearson and Tony Ferguson.

Whenever I look at a fighter’s record and I see that they’ve fought for promotions like HOOKnSHOOT (watch his epic fights with Yves Edwards if you haven’t already), Shooto and PRIDE, I automatically develop a higher level of respect for them. These are the types of fighters who set the table for the thousands that followed. It’s guys like Riley who are the reason that many young men and women around the world realized they could make a living out of doing what they love to do — being a mixed martial artist.

Hopefully it’s not the end of Riley’s career this weekend, but with another loss, his UFC record would drop to 3-6 and that’s likely not good enough to stick around any longer. For a guy who first appeared in the Octagon at UFC 37 in 2002, Riley has nothing to be ashamed of if this is truly the last time we see him fight. But let’s not count him out just yet.

UFC on Fox 8: Preliminary Card Predictions

The UFC on Fox marks the company’s return to network TV, as flyweight champion Demetrious Johnson defends his title in the main event against unlikely challenger John Moraga. It will be an exciting match, despite the lack of possible “star power” it br…

The UFC on Fox marks the company’s return to network TV, as flyweight champion Demetrious Johnson defends his title in the main event against unlikely challenger John Moraga. It will be an exciting match, despite the lack of possible “star power” it brings to the casual fan.

Further than the main card that also boasts names like Rory MacDonald, Jake Ellenberger and Robbie Lawler, there is a preliminary card that promises to bring some fun fights. You know when guys like Melvin Guillard and Yves Edwards are fighting previous to the main card, you have a great overall card.

Here are the predictions for this UFC on Fox 8 preliminary card.

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UFC on Fox 8 Preview: Liz Carmouche vs. Jessica Andrade Head-to-Toe Breakdown

UFC on Fox 8: Johnson vs. Moraga takes place this Saturday night in Seattle. While there hasn’t been a tremendous amount of buzz surrounding the card, it truly is one that is well-rounded from top to bottom.
One of the highlights is Liz Carmouche’s fir…

UFC on Fox 8: Johnson vs. Moraga takes place this Saturday night in Seattle. While there hasn’t been a tremendous amount of buzz surrounding the card, it truly is one that is well-rounded from top to bottom.

One of the highlights is Liz Carmouche’s first fight since nearly stunning the MMA world in February when she took on Ronda Rousey. Carmouche came within inches of wearing the championship belt around her waist when she cranked the neck of Rousey in a thrilling standing guillotine.

With the fight in Anaheim behind her, Carmouche now takes on a 21-year-old up-and-comer in Jessica Andrade. Andrade holds a professional record of 9-2 with all of her wins coming by knockout or submission.

Carmouche is considered the biggest favorite on the card based on the latest odds, and for good reason. Let’s take a look at the head-to-toe breakdown of Carmouche vs. Andrade.

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UFC on Fox 8: Who’s on the Hot Seat for the Johnson vs. Moraga Fight Card

The last time the UFC was in Seattle, lightweight champion Benson Henderson managed to fend off the attack (and middle finger salute) of Nate Diaz, retaining his title with a five-round unanimous decision. When the UFC returns to the Key Arena on July …

The last time the UFC was in Seattle, lightweight champion Benson Henderson managed to fend off the attack (and middle finger salute) of Nate Diaz, retaining his title with a five-round unanimous decision. When the UFC returns to the Key Arena on July 27, flyweight champion Demetrious Johnson will look to be the second champion in a row to defend his belt in the Emerald City, when he faces John Moraga in the main event of UFC on Fox 8.

A total of 12 fights will take place on the fight card. Do you want to know who will be under the most pressure heading into the event? Read on.

 

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