Dana White on Guida vs. Maynard: "This Isn’t F—ing ‘Dancing with the Stars’"

Anyone who saw the main event of UFC on FX 4 was not impressed, and UFC president Dana White was no exception. “The fight sucked. I don’t know how to expand on it anymore,” White told MMAjunkie.com at the post-fight news conference. “… I do…

Anyone who saw the main event of UFC on FX 4 was not impressed, and UFC president Dana White was no exception. 

“The fight sucked. I don’t know how to expand on it anymore,” White told MMAjunkie.com at the post-fight news conference. “… I don’t think that was a split decision at all. I think Gray Maynard won that fight easily. Nobody can win or lose a fight when the guy is running around in circles. He was literally running. I had some guys who are fans on Twitter saying, ‘Great footwork.’ This isn’t (expletive) ‘Dancing With the Stars.’ You can’t win a fight by running around in circles – that’s not how fights are won.”

Many fans and analysts alike believed the fight between Clay Guida and Gray Maynard would be an exciting, high-octane bout between two lightweight contenders. 

Instead, Guida refused to engage with “The Bully” for five full rounds, leading to a very boring, and downright bizarre, fight at the Revel Casino in Atlantic City, New Jersey. 

White compared Guida’s strategy to the most notorious case of running away from an opponent in the history of the sport: Kalib Starnes’ UFC 83 loss to Nate Quarry. 

As a matter of fact, White actually believes that Guida’s performance was worse.

“Because this was the main event, I think it was worse,” White said. “I’m sure I will (talk to Guida). I’m not his trainer. I’m not his coach. These guys come up with gameplans, whatever it is, but to make a guy like Clay Guida go out and fight like that—that was the gameplan?”

The video of White’s interview is available courtesy of MMAWeekly.

Despite the harsh criticism, Guida, a 16-fight UFC veteran, defended his performance in a post-fight interview with MMAjunkie.

“I think a little more movement and if I would’ve landed a few more strikes, I would’ve gotten the nod,” Guida said. “We stuck to the game plan. We were unpredictable. He’s a big, heavy puncher. The guy hits hard. The guy punches holes in walls for practice, I’m sure, and I didn’t want my head to be one of those. I thought we stuck to the game plan, we kept him guessing, we ran him out. He was swinging for the fences, and we weren’t there. … I felt good about my performance.”

After winning four fights between 2010 and 2011, Guida has now lost two in a row, including a title eliminator bout to Benson Henderson last November.

Meanwhile, Maynard finds his first win in nearly two years, after fighting then-lightweight champion Frankie Edgar to a draw at UFC 125 and then being knocked out by “The Answer” at UFC 136.

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UFC on FX 4 Aftermath: Up is Down, Black is White, Fans Cheer Gray Maynard

By George Shunick


Our thoughts exactly. Props: MMAMania

Gray Maynard has never been the most popular UFC fighter. Maybe it’s because it’s almost impossible to picture him as an underdog; he’s an enormous lightweight who lives up his “Bully” moniker. (His choice of entrance music probably doesn’t do him any favors, either.) He’s always Goliath, and in our society we’re conditioned to root for David. That attitude was epitomized in Frankie Edgar’s back-to-back comebacks against him, with the crowd firmly in favor of the smaller fighter who seemed to rely on his will and technique, while Maynard relied on his size and power. As long as Maynard’s achievements were contextualized within that narrative, he would always be the villain.

Clay Guida won the first two rounds of their main event last night by constantly remaining out of Maynard’s reach, dictating the pace, occasionally landing jabs, and landing a solid head kick in the latter half of the second round. The action had been sparse throughout, but it seemed understandable; Guida obviously didn’t want to engage Maynard head on at first, he’d tire him out and then wear him down. Well, that didn’t happen. For the majority of the third round, Guida squandered whatever momentum he may have built by circling, dancing, and circling some more. It was UFC 112 Anderson Silva on meth. By the end of the round, Maynard was flailing with power punches, frustrated by Guida’s unwillingness to engage.

Midway through the fourth round, Maynard had enough. With Guida still circling and refusing to engage, Maynard finally grabbed a hold of him, landed some knees and then proceeding to embody the audience’s frustrations by dropping his hands and bellowing epithets, daring Guida to just stop running and hit him. Guida proceeded to oblige him, only to have Maynard walk through a hard overhand right, stuff a takedown and almost secure an arm-in guillotine in an unprecedented display of attitude and badassery that it actually caused fans to cheer him. Round 5 was unfortunately more of the same, which is to say, not much at all.

By George Shunick


Our thoughts exactly. Props: MMAMania

Gray Maynard has never been the most popular UFC fighter. Maybe it’s because it’s almost impossible to picture him as an underdog; he’s an enormous lightweight who lives up his “Bully” moniker. (His choice of entrance music probably doesn’t do him any favors, either.) He’s always Goliath, and in our society we’re conditioned to root for David. That attitude was epitomized in Frankie Edgar’s back-to-back comebacks against him, with the crowd firmly in favor of the smaller fighter who seemed to rely on his will and technique, while Maynard relied on his size and power. As long as Maynard’s achievements were contextualized within that narrative, he would always be the villain.

Clay Guida won the first two rounds of their main event last night by constantly remaining out of Maynard’s reach, dictating the pace, occasionally landing jabs, and landing a solid head kick in the latter half of the second round. The action had been sparse throughout, but it seemed understandable; Guida obviously didn’t want to engage Maynard head on at first, he’d tire him out and then wear him down. Well, that didn’t happen. For the majority of the third round, Guida squandered whatever momentum he may have built by circling, dancing, and circling some more. It was UFC 112 Anderson Silva on meth. By the end of the round, Maynard was flailing with power punches, frustrated by Guida’s unwillingness to engage.

Midway through the fourth round, Maynard had enough. With Guida still circling and refusing to engage, Maynard finally grabbed a hold of him, landed some knees and then proceeding to embody the audience’s frustrations by dropping his hands and bellowing epithets, daring Guida to just stop running and hit him. Guida proceeded to oblige him, only to have Maynard walk through a hard overhand right, stuff a takedown and almost secure an arm-in guillotine in an unprecedented display of attitude and badassery that it actually caused fans to cheer him. Round 5 was unfortunately more of the same, which is to say, not much at all.

At the end of the fight, Maynard was awarded a split-decision, with two 48-47’s and one 47-48. I don’t have a problem with the decision, though I can understand why some might; the fight was difficult to score just because so little happened during it. But that’s not what this night should be remembered for; this is the night that Gray Maynard broke the narrative paradigm that has plagued him throughout his UFC career. By expressing the frustration that so many of us felt, Maynard wasn’t a bully anymore; last night, he was one of us.

Well, and the night that Clay Guida single-handedly destroyed his reputation as a fan-favorite. Hey, I’m trying for the glass half-full approach here, people. Moving on…

Disappointing main event aside, this was a pretty good card. Sam Stout and Spencer Fisher lived up to expectations, in what was – I imagine – either the most difficult or the easiest fight to live blog of the night. (It depends if you try to actually give a play by play, or simply copy and paste “They engage. Both land shots,” over and over.) Although Fisher seemed to get the better of the standup exchanges ever so slightly, Stout sealed his victories by nailing takedowns in each round, securing the unanimous decision in their trilogy fight.

Just as interesting was the ground war waged between young gun T.J. Waldburger and battle-tested, immaculately manscaped Brian Ebersole. Waldburger got off to a fast start, dropping Ebersole with a straight left, and almost finishing him on the ground with a D’Arce choke. Despite his face turning the color of Prince’s garments of choice, Ebersole survived. In the next round, Ebersole escaped from an omoplata, an arm bar, and two triangle chokes. Despite Waldburger’s active guard, Ebersole took the round on the strength of his ground and pound, turning it on in the final seconds. The deciding round saw Ebersole secure a takedown, escape yet another triangle, and deliver shoulder strikes and elbows until the bell rang. It was enough for Ebersole to take a unanimous decision, 29-28 across the board. With this momentum, Ebersole plans to set up a higher profile fight at 170 in an attempt to… wait, no, apparently he’s going to try to cut to 155. Huh?

Cub Swanson and Ross Pearson was another highly entertaining fight, in which Swanson really got to show off just what was in his arsenal. Although Pearson was clearly the larger and stronger of the two, Swanson’s speed and ingenuity allowed him to get the better of the exchanges. At one point in the first round, Swanson threw a capoeira kick that would impress Anthony Pettis, which Pearson didn’t even flinch from, with Swanson following with upkicks from his back. The end came as Pearson pushed forward, Swanson landed two jabs, pivoted to his left and unleashed a counter left hook that sent Pearson crashing into the fence at 4:14 of the second round. Bring on Do Bronx, please.

The prelims were generally solid, but the highlight had to be Ricardo Lamas’ upset of Hatsu Hioki. Hioki had passed on a title fight with Jose Aldo because he believed he wasn’t ready to face him, and took the fight with Lamas as a tune up to that title shot. Well, it proved to be the right decision, because there was no way Hioki was ready for a title shot. After winning the first round and losing a competitive second round, Hioki was utterly ineffective in the third. It’s not so much that Lamas dominated him, although he did almost submit him with a number of guillotines, so much as Hioki just didn’t do anything in the final round. His standup looked atrocious, and his cardio looked almost as bad.

Fight of the Night went to Fisher-Stout, KO went to Swanson, and Sub went to Dan Miller for his third-round guillotine win over Ricardo Funch.

UFC on FX 4 Results: What We Learned from Gray Maynard vs. Clay Guida

In a fight that can only be summed as a total disappointment, Gray Maynard hand his hand raised via split decision over Clay Guida. The bout took a few bizarre turns with Maynard even allowing Guida to hit  him a few times without doing anything i…

In a fight that can only be summed as a total disappointment, Gray Maynard hand his hand raised via split decision over Clay Guida. The bout took a few bizarre turns with Maynard even allowing Guida to hit  him a few times without doing anything in return. Fans were expecting a five round action packed roller coaster of a fight but instead were treated to two fighters who were too timid.

What We Will Remember From This Fight:

Obviously fans will remember how much of a disappointment this fight was. Guida and Maynard were expected to go back and forth over the course of 25 minutes. Instead, Guida chose to dance while Maynard was visibly frustrated with the lack of engagement.

Fans will also remember Maynard dropping his hands to allow Guida to hit him and then Maynard immediately stuffing a takedown right after.

What We Learned About Gray Maynard:

Well Maynard was supposed to look like a brand new fighter after switching his training camps. At some points he showed better footwork in being able to cut Guida off but for the most part he looked like the same Maynard as before.

He still swung with wild haymakers and didn’t seem capable of streamlining his punches and kicks into combinations. Only in the final minutes of the fight did Maynard showcase his striking skills.

Maynard may also be a bit disappointed with his wrestling in this fight as well. Guida was able to fend off Maynard’s takedown attempts, something that shouldn’t have happened given how powerful Maynard’s wrestling has looked.

What We Learned About Clay Guida:

For five rounds Guida utilized his trademark dance to bait Maynard into following him around the cage but couldn’t fully capitalize. It looked as if Guida wanted to use the same gameplan as his teammate Carlos Condit used at UFC 143 but was unable to.

Condit was able to land counter punches and clearly won that fight. Guida may have landed more punches but in no way could he be declared the winner of anything except a marathon.

Guida was able to stun Maynard a number of times and even made him bleed in the opening round but Guida was entirely too timid. The normally overly-aggressive fighter fought too safe and it cost him.

Maynard may have not done much to be called a winner either but the only thing Guida won this night was the chance to compete in the next Tour de France.

What’s Next for Gray Maynard:

It’s highly unlikely Maynard will be competing for the lightweight title in 2012 as this performance means Maynard will need to face another top contender. A bout against Anthony Pettis could serve as a title eliminator or a rematch with Frankie Edgar should Edgar fail to win the title.

What’s Next for Clay Guida:

A long look in the mirror. It’s one thing to fight smart or fight safe. Guida did neither as those both involve the word “fighting.” The fact it took a referee’s warning in the final round to finally light a fire under Guida’s behind is perhaps the most telling about Guida’s performance tonight.

Two-straight losses have effectively cemented Guida’s place as the gatekeeper of the lightweight division. Hopefully his next bout doesn’t come after another lengthy layoff because it clearly affected him.

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UFC on FX 4 Results: Post-Fight Stock Report

It was a night of exciting fights, and then there was the main event. UFC president Dana White said it best when he tweeted the following while the Gray Maynard/Clay Guida bout was still in progress at UFC on FX 4 on Friday night:
First time I ha…

It was a night of exciting fights, and then there was the main event. 

UFC president Dana White said it best when he tweeted the following while the Gray Maynard/Clay Guida bout was still in progress at UFC on FX 4 on Friday night:

But before that atrocity of a main event (or game of tag) went down, we got plenty of thrilling action from the prelims all the way to the television broadcast. Let’s take a quick look at who’s moving up and who is being sent tumbling down in the UFC on FX 4 Stock Report.

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UFC on FX 4 Results: What We Learned from Brian Ebersole vs. TJ Waldburger

The Brian Ebersole and TJ Waldburger match was what we thought it would be. Waldburger, the much younger and less-experienced fighter fought a tough fight, but in the end, Ebersole’s experience and grit proved too much for the prospect. Still, Waldburg…

The Brian Ebersole and TJ Waldburger match was what we thought it would be. Waldburger, the much younger and less-experienced fighter fought a tough fight, but in the end, Ebersole’s experience and grit proved too much for the prospect.

Still, Waldburger didn’t make things easy for the veteran and actually dropped the granite chinned Ebersole in the first round. Ebersole eventually fought his way back for a decision victory but fended off numerous submission attempts on the path to victory.

 

What Fans Will Remember From This Fight

Undoubtedly, the first thing that will come to mind is Waldburger dropping Ebersole in the first round. Ebersole has never been knocked out, and fans almost witnessed history. After that, fans will likely recall Ebersole’s determination to get back into the fight while fending off a handful of submission attempts.

 

What We Learned About Brian Ebersole

Ebersole is noted for his tough chin, but that was definitely put to the test early on. He showed the mark of a veteran by keeping his composure and used his superior top game to take the victory.

He also showed great submission defense as Waldburger transitioned through a number of submission attempts. Ebersole also displayed some nice Muay Thai striking by utilizing the plum and some good elbows as well.

 

What We Learned about TJ Waldburger

As many fans are saying about Kevin Durant and “his time will come,” the same could be said of Waldburger. The young prospect looked well past his years in experience tonight in bringing the fight to Ebersole for the better part of three rounds.

Once Waldburger puts all the pieces together, he could have one of the best submission games in the welterweight division and possibly the entire UFC.

 

What’s Next For Brian Ebersole

Ebersole finds himself at a crossroad in his UFC career. The longtime journeyman fighter could move into title contention with a win against a top level opponent, but we could also see Ebersole face another mid-level fighter.

The choice is his.

 

What’s Next For TJ Waldburger

Although Waldburger didn’t take home the victory he should still hold his head up high.

He showcased a slick submission attack and showed some flashes of good-striking technique. Waldburger will need to work on his defense in order to complement what is already proving to be a competent offense.

Expect to see Waldburger against another prospect or perhaps another veteran who has fallen down the rankings. Either way, fans should expect to see some good things from Waldburger in the future.

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UFC on FX 4 Results: What We Learned from Sam Stout vs. Spencer Fisher

Who would have thought that the third bout in the Sam Stout vs. Spencer Fisher trilogy would be decided by wrestling? The first six rounds between these two took place primarily on the feet, but the rubber match went everywhere and the takedowns from S…

Who would have thought that the third bout in the Sam Stout vs. Spencer Fisher trilogy would be decided by wrestling?

The first six rounds between these two took place primarily on the feet, but the rubber match went everywhere and the takedowns from Stout ended up being the deciding factor.

 

What We’ll Remember About This Fight

This could be the final appearance for Fisher inside the cage, and there wasn’t a better opponent for him if this is indeed his final bout.

The trilogy with Stout is one of the best in the history of MMA, and even though Fisher came out on the losing end, he still showed he has some serious skills tonight.

 

What We Learned About Sam Stout

Sam Stout is no longer just a striker.

The standup between Stout and Fisher was extremely close for the entire fight, but Stout’s ability to get the fight to the ground whenever he felt like it made a huge difference in the outcome of the bout.

 

What We Learned About Spencer Fisher

It’s been a long, tough career for Spencer Fisher, and he showed he still has plenty of fights left in him if he feels like he wants to continue in MMA.

Fisher got the better of a tough striker in Stout numerous times on the feet, and his defense on the mat was excellent as well, but in the end, he just didn’t do enough to earn the decision.

 

What’s Next for Sam Stout

After rebounding from a controversial decision loss to Thiago Tavares in his last fight, Stout is back in the winner’s circle and will be looking to continue his streak of exciting fights in his next bout.

The UFC seems to love matching Stout up against fellow strikers, and with UFC 152 set to go down in Stout’s native Canada, a fight against someone like Takanori Gomi would be awesome.

 

What’s Next for Spencer Fisher

Hopefully, Fisher gets one more chance in the UFC, but now that he’s lost five of his last six fights, that seems unlikely.

If Fisher gets another fight, someone like Yves Edwards would be a nice final fight for “The King.”

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