‘TUF 17? Media Call Quote-a-Thon: Show Moving Off Fridays (!), Jones Tears Into Sonnen, Matchup ‘Makes Sense’ + More

(Full audio from the call, via MMAFightingonSBN)

TUF 17 coaches Jon Jones and Chael Sonnen, along with UFC president Dana White and FX exec Chuck Saftler, hosted a media conference call yesterday in which they promoted the upcoming season and fielded questions from baffled reporters. It was a lively affair, marked by an unusually aggressive Jon Jones — Chael tends to bring that out of people — and some interesting revelations about the future of The Ultimate Fighter. Here are some highlights…

FX is moving TUF off Friday nights, and preparing for a war with Spike: “The show is going to move off of Friday nights,” Saftler said. “I can’t confirm the day right now, but it’s definitely moving off of Friday, it’s definitely moving to a weekday. There will be an announcement on that somewhere in the next 30 to 45 days. But I will say that Spike should watch their ass. Spike clearly has been dogging us for most of this year…by trying to create viewer confusion and scheduling old episodes against ‘The Ultimate Fighter’ and trying to pass them off as new content. They’ll be off of the UFC game effective in January. They’re going to try to launch a new product, there’s going to try to launch their own reality show that competes with ‘The Ultimate Fighter’ or does a very similar thing with their Bellator product. We watched how they behaved, and we’re well aware of their behavior and how they’ve acted competitively…I’m not ready to commit to (scheduling TUF directly against the Bellator show on Spike), but we’re certainly going to be watching how they schedule, what they schedule and where they schedule.”

Jones vs. Sonnen “made sense,” according to Dana White: “Basically, we got the word when Jon went out and got his elbow checked, that he was out and couldn’t come back until April,” White explained. “So it made sense* for him to do The Ultimate Fighter. Why block up [the division]? Machida can fight. Dan Henderson can fight. Gustafsson and Shogun are going to fight in December. Everything will keep right on moving…These guys will both coach The Ultimate Fighter. They’ll fight when the season’s over, and then whoever’s next in line at 205 pounds can fight Jon Jones** next for the title.”


(Full audio from the call, via MMAFightingonSBN)

TUF 17 coaches Jon Jones and Chael Sonnen, along with UFC president Dana White and FX exec Chuck Saftler, hosted a media conference call yesterday in which they promoted the upcoming season and fielded questions from baffled reporters. It was a lively affair, marked by an unusually aggressive Jon Jones — Chael tends to bring that out of people — and some interesting revelations about the future of The Ultimate Fighter. Here are some highlights…

FX is moving TUF off Friday nights, and preparing for a war with Spike: “The show is going to move off of Friday nights,” Saftler said. “I can’t confirm the day right now, but it’s definitely moving off of Friday, it’s definitely moving to a weekday. There will be an announcement on that somewhere in the next 30 to 45 days. But I will say that Spike should watch their ass. Spike clearly has been dogging us for most of this year…by trying to create viewer confusion and scheduling old episodes against ‘The Ultimate Fighter’ and trying to pass them off as new content. They’ll be off of the UFC game effective in January. They’re going to try to launch a new product, there’s going to try to launch their own reality show that competes with ‘The Ultimate Fighter’ or does a very similar thing with their Bellator product. We watched how they behaved, and we’re well aware of their behavior and how they’ve acted competitively…I’m not ready to commit to (scheduling TUF directly against the Bellator show on Spike), but we’re certainly going to be watching how they schedule, what they schedule and where they schedule.”

Jones vs. Sonnen “made sense,” according to Dana White: “Basically, we got the word when Jon went out and got his elbow checked, that he was out and couldn’t come back until April,” White explained. “So it made sense* for him to do The Ultimate Fighter. Why block up [the division]? Machida can fight. Dan Henderson can fight. Gustafsson and Shogun are going to fight in December. Everything will keep right on moving…These guys will both coach The Ultimate Fighter. They’ll fight when the season’s over, and then whoever’s next in line at 205 pounds can fight Jon Jones** next for the title.”

Jonny Bones twists the knife: “Chael’s an interesting guy,” said Jones. “I respect some things about him, like the way he goes out there and gets what he wants, everything except for a world championship or any championships. So he’s a good talker, he’s definitely good for the sport in some ways, and he’s extremely disrespectful and not much of a championship level athlete at all, but he has his qualities, and most of his qualities are gonna come to light when he retires and when he’s able to do his TV shows and commentating and things like that. But right now I feel as if I’m doing a lot of people in the sport a favor and I’m doing Chael a favor by showing him what his true calling is, and that’s using that gift of gab, not athletic talent.”

“[Agreeing to fight Sonnen] really just had to do with getting over this chapter in my career. I’m trying to move forward and do a lot of amazing things, and the UFC 151 cancellation was a tough moment in my career, and I think beating Chael Sonnen and after that beating Dan Henderson will help me have closure to that whole situation.

Just two months ago I had the whole world calling me a sissy and a wuss and saying that I’m afraid of Chael Sonnen, and even my own fans in my hometown questioned why I wouldn’t fight him. And it seems like a lot of people have jumped on this train of Chael not deserving a title shot, but they jumped on that train a little too late. I think I’m over the fact of whether he deserves it or not, and I’m getting more realistic with the fact that the fans really want it. And without the fans, who are any of us?”

“I absolutely know I can beat Chael, and I’m really confident going into this fight based on my skill set, my youth, my versatility, and that I’m a championship fighter,” Jones said. “I don’t think Chael’s really a guy who knows how to win championships. And with that being said, I believe in every way, shape, and form that I’ll beat Chael.”

Chael Sonnen on that tricky concept of “deserving” a title shot: “Welcome to life,” Sonnen said. “We don’t deserve things, we get what we get. And let’s understand, not one of those fighters said ‘Hey Dana, I’ll fight Chael. Let me prove that I’m the number one contender, let me fight that guy.’ Not one of them. They all sat there and said their little things, so I’ve called every one of those bastards out and I’ll call them out right now. And I’ve got no problem getting a tune up fight and slapping any one of these guys around, including the Karate Kid [Machida]. So not only do they not want to carry the heavy water and fight me, they don’t want to fight Jon Jones. Not one of them called out Jon. The only fighter to call Jones out is me. Nobody called me out.

I don’t turn down fights and I never get hurt. I will fight anybody at anytime. So these guys can say all these things they want, but not one of them has stepped up. I gotta deal with this all the time, where guys always get jealous or envious of an opportunity, but they never want to walk out to the mound and point to the crowd and tell them where they’re gonna hit the ball. I will. I’ll call my shots. And as far as talking my way into it, what do I care about that? So what I talked my way into it? I wanted it and I got it. I talked a cat out of a tree earlier today. Good for me, and chalk one more up for the bad guy.”

“Look, [Jones] needs me, he hasn’t beat anybody until he beats me. He beat (Ryan) Bader, he beat Shogun, he beat — who’s that glorified Hollywood extra — Rampage (Jackson), he beat Vitor. What’s next, he’s gonna fight Scott Ferrozzo? [Ed. note: LOL!] Listen, he needs me, and I am the man, and I’m the man because I say I’m the man, and if anybody else wants the spot, come say it and come take it from me.”

And finally, a friendly disagreement over hormone therapy: “First off, I’ve been on both sides of an ass-whooping, and that’s something that Jon hasn’t,” Sonnen said. “Jon’s been very dominant, but he’s also fought a lot of guys who’re timid and they’re afraid to get into a fight. I’m going to walk out there and I’m going to get into a fist fight. And above everything, I’m in a lot better shape than Jon or anybody else he’s fought. As much as I’ll admit, Jon is better — skill for skill he’s fantastic — Jon will admit, I’m in better shape than anybody he’s fought.”

“In good shape on TRT, or off TRT?” Jones replied.

“On TRT, Jon. You tell everybody, you let the media know…Eh, let’s move on.”

“I think it’s terrible,” Jones said later, shifting focus back to the TRT discussion. “I think it’s professionally terrible if your going to consider yourself an athlete. I mean, TRT would be perfect for Chael Sonnen if he wasn’t competing in one of the toughest sports in the world. I think Chael Sonnen made tons of money when he was a young guy, and now he’s an older guy. Now just to be able to take a drug and super-enhance yourself back to where you were in your twenties is bull. Right now I’m 25. I’m sure I’m not as giddy and happy-go-lucky as I was when I was 20, so if I take a drug at my 25-year-old age and have the energy of a 20-year-old, it just wouldn’t be fair. Everyone would hate me if I did it. But Chael Sonnen gets to do it? I think it’s bullcrap.”

“I don’t have any comment on the topic,” Sonnen said.

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* Speaking of fights that make sense, here’s Dana White in August, talking about Nick Diaz wanting to go up in weight and fight Anderson Silva: “Nick Diaz makes no sense. I know that it sounds fun ‘YEAH! Throw Nick Diaz in there!’ But if you really look at the thing, Nick Diaz just lost to Condit. You know what I mean? … at 170 so that gives him the opportunity to move up to 185 and fight the pound-for-pound best fighter in the world? In what f*cking universe does that make sense?” A few weeks later, Dana adamantly stated that Sonnen wouldn’t be able to just talk his way into a 205-pound title shot. But hey, can’t a guy change his mind?

** Or Chael Sonnen, right? Jesus, even the fight’s promoter can’t be bothered to give him a chance in this one.

Dan Henderson Asks Dana White If He Should ‘Just Go to Sh*t Talking School’

Former PRIDE and Strikeforce champion Dan Henderson is a longtime friend and training partner of new light heavyweight title challenger Chael Sonnen. That doesn’t mean that the former Olympic-level wrestler was happy to hear about “The American Ga…

Former PRIDE and Strikeforce champion Dan Henderson is a longtime friend and training partner of new light heavyweight title challenger Chael Sonnen

That doesn’t mean that the former Olympic-level wrestler was happy to hear about “The American Gangster’s” scheduled title fight with UFC light heavyweight champion Jon Jones. 

“Hendo” took to Twitter on Wednesday morning, letting UFC president Dana White know that he strongly disagreed with Sonnen getting a title fight despite not fighting at 205 pounds for nearly seven and a half years. 

 

I guess I should just quit training to win fights and to be exciting for the fans and just go to shit talking school. @danawhite

— Dan Henderson (@danhendo) October 17, 2012

 

Yesterday, it was announced that Sonnen would coach season 17 of The Ultimate Fighter opposite Jones, and they will fight for the title on April 27. The Los Angeles Times broke the story. 

Sonnen is coming off of a second-round TKO loss to UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva at UFC 148 and made the decision to move back up to light heavyweight a few months later. 

The former two-time All-American collegiate wrestler was scheduled to return to the Octagon at UFC 155 against former UFC light heavyweight champion Forrest Griffin, but that bout has been scrapped in favor of a trilogy between Griffin and Stephan Bonnar

Henderson was originally scheduled to face Jones at UFC 151 but had to pull out of the fight on just eight days notice due to a knee injury. 

“Uncle Chael” was called upon as a last-minute replacement for the 25-year-old champion, but Jones turned down the fight, and the event was ultimately cancelled. 

Neither White or Sonnen responded to Henderson’s tweet as of Wednesday afternoon. 

Does Henderson have a right to be annoyed now that Sonnen has cut him in line for a title shot without winning a fight at 205 pounds?

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Ultimate Fighter 17 Media Call Live Blog with Jon Jones and Chael Sonnen

UFC® MEDIA CONFERENCE CALL WITH UPCOMING THE ULTIMATE FIGHTER® COACHESJON JONES AND CHAEL SONNENUFC PRESIDENT DANA WHITE TO ALSO PARTICIPATEWednesday, Oct. 17, 2012 – 4 p.m. ET/1 p.m. PT  Las Vegas – The Ult…

UFC® MEDIA CONFERENCE CALL WITH UPCOMING THE ULTIMATE FIGHTER® COACHES

JON JONES AND CHAEL SONNEN

UFC PRESIDENT DANA WHITE TO ALSO PARTICIPATE

Wednesday, Oct. 17, 2012 – 4 p.m. ET/1 p.m. PT

 

 

Las Vegas – The Ultimate Fighting Championship® will host a media conference call with current UFC® light heavyweight champion Jon “Bones” Jones and top contender Chael Sonnen on Wednesday, Oct. 17, 2012 at 4 p.m. ET/1 p.m. PT. The two were recently announced as coaches for the upcoming season of The Ultimate Fighter®.

UFC President Dana White will also be available during the call.

 

 

WHO:            

DANA WHITE, UFC President

JON JONES, UFC light heavyweight champion

CHAEL SONNEN, UFC contender

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Rumor: Stephan Bonnar to Replace Sonnen, Face Forrest Griffin at UFC 155

Tuesday was a hot day for breaking UFC news as we learned that UFC light heavyweight champion Jon Jones will face Chael Sonnen in April following their coaching stints on The Ultimate Fighter, according to Lance Pugmire of the Los Angeles Times.While t…

Tuesday was a hot day for breaking UFC news as we learned that UFC light heavyweight champion Jon Jones will face Chael Sonnen in April following their coaching stints on The Ultimate Fighter, according to Lance Pugmire of the Los Angeles Times.

While that news is great, it left a hole at the top of the UFC 155 card when it was announced that the Jones-Sonnen booking would leave Forrest Griffin without an opponent at UFC 155. Well, the ultimate “company man” is here to save the day once again.

As reported on Twitter early Wednesday morning, Stephan Bonnar will step up and replace Chael Sonnen at UFC 155 against rival and buddy Forrest Griffin:

 

 

Now, you may ask if this is too much, too soon for Stephan Bonnar.

He is coming off a recent TKO loss to middleweight champion Anderson Silva, but Bonnar has been pleading with Dana White for one final shot at Griffin. It seems White has decided to reward Bonnar for saving UFC 153 with this final bout with Griffin.

The two men met for the first time at the first TUF finale in a fight that many consider the most important fight in MMA history (Griffin defeated Bonnar by unanimous decision to win the first season of The Ultimate Fighter).

The two would have a rematch at UFC 62, and Griffin picked up the decision victory.

With Griffin leading the series 2-0, it’s odd to see a third fight get booked. Still, it’s hard not to be excited when you consider the high-caliber fights the first two were.

It was also reported on Twitter that this will be a retirement fight for both men, which could be another reason White gave in to the fight.

Although it is a little sad to imagine two legends of the sport fighting for the final time, we can rest easy knowing we are just a couple months away from seeing two of the most exciting fighters in UFC history lay it all out on the line one final time.

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Jon Jones vs. Chael Sonnen: Is the Ultimate Fighter Dead If TUF 17 Fails?

If a highly-charged match-up, like UFC light heavyweight champ Jon Jones vs. Chael Sonnen, can’t resurrect the long-running Ultimate Fighter television series, nothing will.The series has been running since 2005 and counting the currently airing i…

If a highly-charged match-up, like UFC light heavyweight champ Jon Jones vs. Chael Sonnen, can’t resurrect the long-running Ultimate Fighter television series, nothing will.

The series has been running since 2005 and counting the currently airing incarnation of the show, has put on sixteen seasons. 

Now tell me what show, if any, has been able to sustain quality and viewer satisfaction over sixteen seasons?

Evidently, The Ultimate Fighter isn’t one of them. Just last week, it earned the lowest ratings in the history of the series; a paltry 624,000 viewers on average. What’s worse is that the previous week’s show did 1.1 million viewers.

Losing approximately 500,000 viewers over the course of one week is bad, no matter how UFC president Dana White spins the declining ratings. That many viewers not sticking around for the next episode indicates that the show has lost its ability to resonate with and captivate the casual fan/ vaunted 18-34-year-old male.

Furthermore, the trend of declining TUF ratings indicate that, in general, something is amiss—big time.

Much of the punditry is focused on the show’s Friday night time slot.  A slot that’s poor for any show, let alone one whose primary demographic is out drinking and partying that night instead of sitting home to watch what boils down to be the same exact antics and inconsequential, low-level fighters that have been on the countless other episodes and seasons.

The conventional wisdom from the MMA community also argues that the show changing channels from Spike TV to FX has caused some of the decline in viewership and that once fans learn of this change, they’ll come flocking back in droves. 

This hasn’t happened yet and judging by the continuously dismal ratings, isn’t going to happen at all.

Jon Jones and Chael Sonnen have been brought in to change this. 

Jones is the youngest (non-tournament) champion in UFC history, a solid draw (he drew an estimated 700,000 buys against Rashad Evans at UFC 145) and is the second most divisive figure in MMA right now. 

Of course, the man he’s second to in that category is his TUF 17 counterpart, Chael Sonnen.

Sonnen‘s lurid trash talk and professional wrestling-esque gimmicks divide fans but, more importantly, get them talking and get them watching and buying.

Sonnen is one of only a handful of men in UFC history to have been in the main event of a pay-per-view earning over 900,000 buys.  Needless to say, he is a lightning rod for attention.

Pairing these two—who have already gone back and forth a bit via Twitter—should, in theory, inject a much needed dose of interest and vitality into the show and therefore, increase its viewership. 

After all, how could putting big names on the show not get people watching, right?

Well…it’s not that simple. 

A similar strategy was employed by putting former WWE star Brock Lesnar on TUF‘s thirteenth season, but the effect on the ratings was dilatory, if it even had an effect at all. 

Thus, putting the biggest names you have available at the moment is not a panacea for The Ultimate Fighter television series.

If Jones-Sonnen fails to bring in the viewers, the show will need either serious retooling or outright deletion.

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Dana White Cancels Chael Sonnen vs Forrest Griffin, Sonnen Shelved Until April

With the recent news that Chael Sonnen would be coaching the upcoming season of The Ultimate Fighter opposite of Jon Jones, there was some speculation about what that meant for the proposed bout between Chael Sonnen and Forrest Griffin at UFC 155.The r…

With the recent news that Chael Sonnen would be coaching the upcoming season of The Ultimate Fighter opposite of Jon Jones, there was some speculation about what that meant for the proposed bout between Chael Sonnen and Forrest Griffin at UFC 155.

The reason for speculation was sound.

What would the UFC possibly do if Sonnen lost to Griffin at the UFC’s end-of-year event? Or worse, what would happen if the fight ended up being a total snoozer? Would they still go forward with their plans for The Ultimate Fighter?

Apparently Zuffa saw the risk and opted to remove Sonnen from UFC 155 entirely. In fact, he won’t be fighting until April at a yet-to-be-numbered UFC event.

Having Sonnen on the shelf is a risky move for the UFC. While a win over Griffin likely wouldn’t have appeased many detractors, it would have at least mildly justified Sonnen getting a shot at Jones. 

Instead, he’s getting fast-tracked to a title shot and jumping over the more deserving contenders such as Alexander Gustafsson and Mauricio “Shogun” Rua

That’s not to say that I don’t get it.

As far as marketability and promotion go, there are few better at building a fight than Sonnen, and since the UFC is a pay-per-view business, they need to maximize profits. I just don’t see how sacrificing the legitimacy of a title is a smart business decision. 

The likely reason is that the UFC felt they needed a proverbial “game changer” due to the declining TUF ratings, and Chael Sonnen was the obvious choice. He’ll provide weeks of entertainment and will hopefully draw eyeballs to a struggling television show. 

But him getting a title shot is a sham.

If the UFC wants to be accepted as a “major league” sport, they need to present themselves that way. Sonnen is getting the coaching gig and subsequent title shot because of his gift of gab. 

Ultimately though, the cancellation of Sonnen/Griffin is good for business. While I may disagree with the decision, they need something to save a dying TUF franchise. If Sonnen and Jones aren’t the answer, I’m not sure who on the roster could possibly compel fans to tune back in week after week.

Lost in all of this is what happens with Griffin. White was extremely critical of the former light heavyweight champion following UFC 148 and openly stated that it may be time for Griffin to consider hanging it up. 

Hopefully Joe Silva can find a new opponent for Griffin. It would be a shame for him to lose out on such a big fight this way. 

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