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A lot has been made on the incident between Dan Hardy and Herb Dean, and “Big” John McCarthy has his own take. Dean served as an official for UFC on ESPN 14 on July 25. There were two bouts that many felt Dean stopped too late, with one bei…
A lot has been made on the incident between Dan Hardy and Herb Dean, and “Big” John McCarthy has his own take. Dean served as an official for UFC on ESPN 14 on July 25. There were two bouts that many felt Dean stopped too late, with one being considered to be egregious by some. […]
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John McCarthy has offered his opinion on Herb Dean’s seemingly late stoppage at UFC Fight Island 3. Dean was the man in the middle when UFC newcomer Jai Herbert faced off against long-time lightweight contender Francisco Trinaldo in the featured preliminary bout of the night. In the third and final round the Brazilian caught Herbert […]
John McCarthy has offered his opinion on Herb Dean’s seemingly late stoppage at UFC Fight Island 3.
Dean was the man in the middle when UFC newcomer Jai Herbert faced off against long-time lightweight contender Francisco Trinaldo in the featured preliminary bout of the night. In the third and final round the Brazilian caught Herbert with a punch on the top of the head and seemed to knock his opponent out. Dean refused to immediately wave off the fight and forced a confused Trinaldo was forced to land a few follow up shots before the referee finally stepped in to save the helpless Herbert.
Dan ‘The Outlaw’ Hardy who was commentating cage side was particularly unhappy with Dean and screamed for the fight to be stopped live on air. After the fight Dean appeared to approach Hardy and a heated debate ensued. The Englishman told Dean to do his job and protect the fighters after a second late call in the same night. Dean was late in stopping a heavyweight bout between Tanner Boser and Raphael Pessoa earlier in the night. He has since spoken publicly to defend allowing the lightweight fight to continue.
Former referee McCarthy addressed the controversial Trinaldo – Herbert stoppage during the latest episode of the “Weighing In” podcast with Josh Thomason, he said
“Jai’s really good. Really talented. Good movement, a nice smooth stand-up fighter and he did well in the clinches and stuff. He was fighting really well. But, Jai gets hit and the shot that hits him goes off basically the top of his forehead. The top of his head and you see him go stumble back and fall the way he did. It’s like he got hit in the head with a hammer. And you know as the referee it’s one of those… It is an oddity knockdown. Not your norm. But when he falls how did he fall? He fell going backwards and was he still there?”
“No.” Thomson replied.
“Doesn’t look like it,” McCarthy agreed. “But, when Herb Dean sees him he comes around and he sees him fall down like this (motioning straight back) and he sees him with his hands in a position to defend himself. So Herb is thinking (Herbert) can defend himself and Trinaldo just stopped. Now Trinaldo stopped because he is a competitor, a sportsman and felt like he’s out. I shouldn’t have to hit him again. But, he has to continue on. So the fact that Trinaldo didn’t immediately go after him, makes it now where Herb really can’t stop it, in a way, because he is saying he’s in there defending himself. Could he have stopped it? He could have. But, there would have been people complaining about him stopping it. There would have been people saying ‘Oh you didn’t give him the opportunity’ to try and you know work his way out.”
“So you’re in that can’t win. You know the fact that Dan Hardy is friends with Jai, likes him and watches him fight in England. Well he got all upset because his guy took extra shots and ok. But, if Dan Hardy was the guy who got hit and went down and someone stopped it, he would be standing up like Dominick Cruz. ‘You stopped it too soon!’. Can’t win.” (Transcribed by BJPENN.com)
Do you agree with John McCarthy? Was Herb Dean in a no win situation at UFC Fight Island?
Herb Dean has responded to criticisms of his UFC on ESPN 14 officiating. Dean came under fire over two of his stoppages at UFC on ESPN 14. Commentators Dan Hardy and Paul Felder expressed their dismay with Dean’s stoppage in the heavyweight bout …
Herb Dean has responded to criticisms of his UFC on ESPN 14 officiating. Dean came under fire over two of his stoppages at UFC on ESPN 14. Commentators Dan Hardy and Paul Felder expressed their dismay with Dean’s stoppage in the heavyweight bout between Tanner Boser and Raphael Pessoa, as they felt the referee jumped […]
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Referee Herb Dean did not appreciate Dan Hardy interfering during the catchweight bout between Francisco Trinaldo and Jai Herbert at UFC Fight Island 3 last night. Trinaldo dropped Herbert after the latter fell to the canvas following a delayed response from a strike and was seemingly out. However, Dean let the action continue as Trinaldo […]
Referee Herb Dean did not appreciate Dan Hardy interfering during the catchweight bout between Francisco Trinaldo and Jai Herbert at UFC Fight Island 3 last night.
Trinaldo dropped Herbert after the latter fell to the canvas following a delayed response from a strike and was seemingly out. However, Dean let the action continue as Trinaldo — who had stopped fighting — landed a couple more strikes before the fight was eventually stopped.
Hardy was notably animated on commentary as he was shouting for the fight to be stopped and even had some heated words with Dean in the aftermath.
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UFC senior vice president David Shaw would later claim the incident would be looked at closely as Hardy would defend his actions following the event.
Dean would defend himself as well in a video posted on his Instagram on Sunday as he believed his stoppage was correct.
He also criticized Hardy for putting on a “Superman shirt” and interfering in what could have had dangerous consequences in another scenario.
“What I really want to get into right now is during the match someone yelled out, ‘Stop the fight,’” Dean said on Instagram (via MMA Junkie). “It’s really interesting because there’s only professionals there and there’s not one fan in the building. Everybody has a job there, everybody knows what their job is and they have specific duties. I have a job to referee the fight, one of my duties is to stop the fight when the fighter’s taking too much damage. There’s two people who are authorized to advise me during that, to maybe yell out those words, ‘Stop the fight.’
“There’s one, the physician. We have a ringside physician who knows more about the physical body than I do. He’s there to give me advice. If he can’t get my attention maybe he might yell, ‘Stop the fight.’ Then there’s the fighter’s corner. They train with them, they know about them, they know more things about him than I do. They may know something I don’t know, so that’s why they would give me some advice to stop the fight. Ultimately to stop the fight is my decision. I don’t know who it was who did it because I was looking at the fight and and I had heard it, so I assumed it was either of the two people authorized to do it, the doctor or the corner.
“After the match I followed up, I asked the physician he said, ‘No, that fight was fine. You were doing perfectly fine with everything you did in that match,’” Dean said. “I didn’t get a chance to ask his corner, but I asked the inspectors, who are in charge of his corner. They said, ‘No. The corner did not yell out to stop the match.’ That means it was someone else, someone else there to do a job. This is a very dangerous thing to do. If you put on your Superman shirt and decide that you’re the smartest person in the room, smarter than the physician, smarter than the corner who works with the guy and smarter than the referee, there’s a chance you could bring in information that could do the fighter a disservice.
“I’m looking at the match, I believe I’m getting information from the people qualified to do it. Under no circumstance would I, even as a referee, get up and yell to another referee to stop the match. If I were to do that I would know there would be a situation where I couldn’t live with myself otherwise. I know there could be consequences that you would never see me in that position again, but I would sleep well knowing that I’d done that.
“The bottom line now if I have to look at that match, not looking at it to know if I should’ve stopped it early, because it’s easy,” Dean said. “Anyone who believes it’s not is just following because someone with a microphone says it should’ve been stopped. But if you know anything about fighting, the fighter got hurt, fighters get rocked all the time, but we’re looking at his actions. He’s tracking his opponent, he knows where his opponent is. He’s putting both arms between him and his opponent, he’s lifting his legs and head off the mat. He’s doing everything I could ask for to stay in that fight. So, it wasn’t a bad stoppage.
“But that person who is yelling out, that’s almost the same thing as if you would grab a horn and ring the horn as if you’re calling the time. It could easily be mistaken for the people who are officially qualified to yell, ‘Stop the fight.’ It should never be done. Food for thought.”
What do you make of Dean’s response?
UFC color commentator Dan Hardy was not happy with referee Herb Dean during the UFC on ESPN 14 event. Herb Dean was once recognized as one of the best officials in the MMA game but many argue that he has regressed. The general consensus is that Dean dr…
UFC color commentator Dan Hardy was not happy with referee Herb Dean during the UFC on ESPN 14 event. Herb Dean was once recognized as one of the best officials in the MMA game but many argue that he has regressed. The general consensus is that Dean dropped the ball during the UFC on ESPN […]
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Herb Dean has weighed in on a claim Dominick Cruz has made about another referee. Dean has been highly regarded as a referee in the sport of MMA. Following his UFC 249 loss to Henry Cejudo, Cruz said he wishes Dean was the third man inside the Octagon….
Herb Dean has weighed in on a claim Dominick Cruz has made about another referee. Dean has been highly regarded as a referee in the sport of MMA. Following his UFC 249 loss to Henry Cejudo, Cruz said he wishes Dean was the third man inside the Octagon. Instead, it was Keith Peterson. Cruz was […]
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