Rousey vs. Mayweather: The MMA vs. Boxing Debate Finally Hits Rock-Bottom

(Joe Rogan talks Rousey vs. Mayweather on ESPN’s SportsNation, because it’s not like there was an actual event worth discussing or anything.)

By Jared Jones

I must be confused.

You see, when I awoke yesterday morning, I was under the impression that MMA was still a sport with plenty of goings-on worth talking about, not a platform so desolate of intriguing discussion that its only current purpose in this world was to push energy drinks and stir up farcical “Who would win?” scenarios like a goddamn episode of Deadliest Warrior. “There are *two* UFC events alone going down this week,” I said to myself, “Not to mention an *actual* TUF premiere, a Bellator event, and who knows what else. Surely there is plenty of real-life, newsworthy information to be had today.”

So you can imagine my surprise when I awoke to find “Joe Rogan says Ronda Rousey would beat Floyd Mayweather Jr.” as the headline dominating many an MMA site and even some that aren’t. And even worse, nearly all of these articles were flooded with the hundreds of comments from people who actually found it necessary to offer their insight into this absolutely imbecilic piece of non-news. (Rousey vs. a cheetah in sweatpants: Who’s the better dancer?”)

“Every fight starts standing, and we all know Floyd’s not afraid to hit women,” joked a commenter who vehemently expressed his outrage over the idea of allowing Fallon Fox to continue fighting just months earlier. “Floyd’s speed would be no match for Ronda’s armbar,” said another who had chastised his favorite MMA publication for daring to waste his time with a breakdown of the Undertaker’s signature move days prior.

I bit my tongue at first, because I don’t exactly have a foot to stand on when it comes to publishing news items that are ever-so-tangentially related to MMA. But the tipping point occurred during last night’s TUF Nations Finale broadcast, when during yet another time-killing session in the FOX studios, Karyn Bryant posed the same question to Daniel Cormier and Anthony Pettis.

“This is ridiculous,” said Pettis before declaring that Floyd would easily win. Unfortunately, it appeared that the idea of a woman beating a man in a fight was what Pettis found ridiculous, not the question itself as I had hoped.


(Joe Rogan talks Rousey vs. Mayweather on ESPN’s SportsNation, because it’s not like there was an actual event worth discussing or anything.)

By Jared Jones

I must be confused.

You see, when I awoke yesterday morning, I was under the impression that MMA was still a sport with plenty of goings-on worth talking about, not a platform so desolate of intriguing discussion that its only current purpose in this world was to push energy drinks and stir up farcical “Who would win?” scenarios like a goddamn episode of Deadliest Warrior. “There are *two* UFC events alone going down this week,” I said to myself, “Not to mention an *actual* TUF premiere, a Bellator event, and who knows what else. Surely there is plenty of real-life, newsworthy information to be had today.”

So you can imagine my surprise when I awoke to find “Joe Rogan says Ronda Rousey would beat Floyd Mayweather Jr.” as the headline dominating many an MMA site and even some that aren’t. And even worse, nearly all of these articles were flooded with the hundreds of comments from people who actually found it necessary to offer their insight into this absolutely imbecilic piece of non-news. (Rousey vs. a cheetah in sweatpants: Who’s the better dancer?”)

“Every fight starts standing, and we all know Floyd’s not afraid to hit women,” joked a commenter who vehemently expressed his outrage over the idea of allowing Fallon Fox to continue fighting just months earlier. “Floyd’s speed would be no match for Ronda’s armbar,” said another who had chastised his favorite MMA publication for daring to waste his time with a breakdown of the Undertaker’s signature move days prior.

I bit my tongue at first, because I don’t exactly have a foot to stand on when it comes to publishing news items that are ever-so-tangentially related to MMA. But the tipping point occurred during last night’s TUF Nations Finale broadcast, when during yet another time-killing session in the FOX studios, Karyn Bryant posed the same question to Daniel Cormier and Anthony Pettis.

“This is ridiculous,” said Pettis before declaring that Floyd would easily win. Unfortunately, it appeared that the idea of a woman beating a man in a fight was what Pettis found ridiculous, not the question itself as I had hoped.

Despite the vast majority of MMA fans claiming to be “purists of the sport” who will blow a gasket at the slightest mention of the WWE and it’s transparent, lowball, and shamefully fabricated product on an MMA site, the discussion of how Ronda Rousey — a female, MMA fighter, with less than 10 professional contests to her credit — would fare against Floyd Mayweather Jr. — a male, professional boxer, considered to be one of the greatest in the sport’s history — in an MMA contest has somehow managed to infiltrate message boards far and wide and warrant hundreds of comments from these very same people. Baffling, is it not?

Using Gina Carano to continue hyping the Rousey feeding trough that is the women’s bantamweight division is one thing, but now we have to bring in professional boxers to do the job? And not only that, but discuss the idea of man-on-woman violence in the same month we all (rightfully) chastised Will Chope for his past offenses of the very same nature? And when the man being discussed in this fantasy scenario has been convicted of beating the mother of his children, in front of his children? Take this logic, please.

Obviously, one of the things I just described actually happened, whereas the other was dreamed up out of apparent apathy towards the actual fight Ronda Rousey just booked or, you know, the actual female professional boxer who is knocking on her door. But oh, I must have forgot, the UFC is “not interested whatsoever” in pursuing that actual, plausible scenario. Back to playing with these Megaman toys in the bathtub I guess!

I know this piece of absolutely imbecilic (apologies for the repetition, but I find it necessary in this case) non-news is nothing worth flying off the handle over, but this is the Internet after all. My biggest problem with the idea of Rousey vs. Mayweather is why we are so insistent on pushing this impossible fight in a universe where guys like Renan Barao and Jose Aldo exist. You know, guys who are guys and whose names would therefore make more sense as opponents in the ain’t-no-way-never-gonna-happen prospect of Floyd Mayweather becoming an MMA fighter. The downside of being the onlythe biggest star the UFC’s ever had,” perhaps?

It’s all about how much time Floyd has to prepare, because he will really have to work on his takedown defense. That would be the big thing. If Ronda got a clinch on him, it’s not just about worrying about being taken down to the ground, it’s worrying about knees to the body. It is worrying about her manipulating his body in ways that he doesn’t understand.

Those were actual words spoken by the typically sane Joe Rogan when seriously discussing (for all intents and purposes) the idea of Rousey vs. Mayweather. Ronda Rousey, who fights Alexis Davis in a couples months at UFC 175. UFC, the promotion that is putting on two fight cards this week including “the most exciting card in network history” at UFC on FOX 11 tomorrow night.

Look, I’m not asking you to openly express your disapproval with the thought of Rousey vs. Mayweather (I’ve already done it for you!), nor am I asking you to blame the MMA media for validating the half-witted discussion of Rousey vs. Mayweather with a plethora of blog posts. I’m simply asking that the next time you see or hear someone make a comparison between MMA/the UFC/Bellator and the WWE, think about how you reacted to this “news” item before you speak. Think about it and add it to the list.

J. Jones

UFC Booking Alert: Ronda Rousey to Face Alexis Davis at UFC 175


(Did you know: Ronda Rousey doesn’t listen to music, only the screams of past opponents. / Photo via Getty)

Ronda Rousey‘s next opponent has been determined. It’s not Holly Holm. It’s not Gina Carano, and it’s definitely not Cris Cyborg.

It’s Alexis Davis, who’s currently 3-0 in the UFC and is on a five-fight win streak overall.

Dana White announced the fight over twitter last night.

To be honest, we’re a little disappointed. Find out why after the jump.


(Did you know: Ronda Rousey doesn’t listen to music, only the screams of past opponents. / Photo via Getty)

Ronda Rousey‘s next opponent has been determined. It’s not Holly Holm. It’s not Gina Carano, and it’s definitely not Cris Cyborg. It’s Alexis Davis, who’s currently 3-0 in the UFC and is on a five-fight win streak overall. Dana White announced the fight over twitter last night.

To be honest, we’re a little disappointed. We wanted one of the “big three” names that get thrown around when Rousey is mentioned–Carano, Cyborg, or Holm.

Dana White met with Gina Carano recently, but apparently nothing came of it–at least nothing immediate. It’s still possible that they eventually work something out. Who knows, maybe Carano will face Rousey at the UFC’s year-end card. And while Carano getting an immediate title shot after several years of inactivity would be insane, the amount of buzz that a Carano-Rousey fight would generate is undeniable (even if the fight itself would be one-sided in favor of Rousey).

And, of course, we already know that the UFC (more specifically Dana White) is not at all sold on the idea of Holly Holm in the UFC. And Cyborg? She’ll likely never see the inside of the Octagon, sadly.

So it looks like the Rousey hype train will justifiably pick up more steam this July at UFC 175. We’re not going to officially call the fight right now to avoid a “Dewey Defeats Truman” scenario, but a Rousey win is certainly more likely. Davis just isn’t on the same level in terms of skill and raw athleticism. Remember our theory about the UFC women’s bantamweight division just being a feeder system for Rousey? Looking more true with each booking!

ICYMI: Holly Holm Lands Gorgeous Head Kick KO at Legacy FC 30, but Breaks Her Arm


(Photo via Getty)

Holly Holm is two things.

To the sane, she’s a potential money opponent for Ronda Rousey in a sea of female fighters who simply aren’t up to snuff. Holm is closer to Rousey athletically than most other women in MMA.

To the delusional, she’s the Woman to Beat Rousey™. This sentiment is great for selling a PPV, but let’s not kid ourselves. While Holm is head and shoulders above the division, Rousey is mountains above it.

Still, MMA fans like to speculate about such matters. And whenever a fighter like Holm wins a fighter–or a fighter like Cris Cyborg loses one…in a different sport–this speculation reaches a fever pitch.

Holm fought this past Friday at Legacy FC 30. Holm outclassed her opponent, Juliana Werner, throughout the fight and finished her off with a devastating head kick in the fifth round (check out the GIF via @ZProphet_MMA).

This is good news, isn’t it? Cyborg losing a Muay Thai fight erases all her credibility (we don’t actually think this but Dana White probably does), so Holm winning in such a devastating way must’ve impressed White, right?


(Photo via Getty)

Holly Holm is two things.

To the sane, she’s a potential money opponent for Ronda Rousey in a sea of female fighters who simply aren’t up to snuff. Holm is closer to Rousey athletically than most other women in MMA.

To the delusional, she’s the Woman to Beat Rousey™. This sentiment is great for selling a PPV, but let’s not kid ourselves. While Holm is head and shoulders above the division, Rousey is mountains above it.

Still, MMA fans like to speculate about such matters. And whenever a fighter like Holm wins a match–or a fighter like Cris Cyborg loses one…in a different sport–this speculation reaches a fever pitch.

Holm fought this past Friday at Legacy FC 30. Holm outclassed her opponent, Juliana Werner, throughout the fight and finished her off with a devastating head kick in the fifth round (check out the GIF via @ZProphet_MMA).

This is good news, isn’t it? Cyborg losing a Muay Thai fight erases all her credibility (we don’t actually think this but Dana White probably does), so Holm winning in such a devastating way must’ve impressed White, right?

Not necessarily. Rousey’s immediate future, and therefore the immediate future of the UFC women’s bantamweight division (and by extension, women’s MMA) is still up in the air.

First of all, White hates Holm’s manager (presumably for doing their job) and is “not interested whatsoever” in her. Bummer.

Second, Holm broke her arm in the first round of her fight against Werner. A picture of Holm’s supposed X-ray has been circulating around the web, but we haven’t been able to verify it (websites are citing “Facebook” but not providing a link; Holm’s Facebook has no such picture on it) . So this might be Holly Holm’s broken left arm, or it might belong to some plebeian:

Hopefully Holm recovers soon. If Dana White’s meeting with Gina Carano goes sour, the UFC women’s bantamweight division will need her.

Quote of the Day: The UFC is “Not Interested Whatsoever” in Signing Holly Holm


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The buzz surrounding former boxing champ turned MMA fighter Holly Holm has reached a fever pitch in recent weeks. Many have speculated as to whether or not Holm is the “huge announcement” opponent for Ronda Rousey that Joe Rogan previously hinted at, and her ongoing negotiations with the UFC seem to lend credence to this belief.

Of course, previous negotiations between Holm and the UFC have resulted in little more than a stalemate, with Holm’s manager, Lenny Fresquez, prematurely dubbing her “a franchise” among other ludicrous claims and earning the time-tested ire of Dana White. Things took a turn for the worst during yesterday’s edition of UFC Tonight, when White told Ariel Helwani that the negotiations between Fresquez were “not good at all” and that the UFC was “not interested whatsoever” in signing Holm.

This can only mean one thing: The UFC has signed Holly Holm.


(Photo via Getty.)

The buzz surrounding former boxing champ turned MMA fighter Holly Holm has reached a fever pitch in recent weeks. Many have speculated as to whether or not Holm is the “huge announcement” opponent for Ronda Rousey that Joe Rogan previously hinted at, and her ongoing negotiations with the UFC seem to lend credence to this belief.

Of course, previous negotiations between Holm and the UFC have resulted in little more than a stalemate, with Holm’s manager, Lenny Fresquez, prematurely dubbing her “a franchise” among other ludicrous claims and earning the time-tested ire of Dana White. Things took a turn for the worst during yesterday’s edition of UFC Tonight, when White told Ariel Helwani that the negotiations between Fresquez were “not good at all” and that the UFC was “not interested whatsoever” in signing Holm.

This can only mean one thing: The UFC has signed Holly Holm.

Don’t believe me? Ask Gilbert Melendez what it means when The Baldfather tells you he’s “no longer interested” in signing you. Ask Roy Nelson. Ask Kimbo f*cking Slice. The UFC has become notorious for trashing a fighter (or his management) one second and signing/re-signing them the next over the years –they don’t want you until they do — and while Melendez is clearly a more valued and recognizable commodity than Holm, let’s not act like the door has been closed on the former boxing champion, because very recent history has proven otherwise.

Considering that DW also told UFC Tonight that the UFC is not negotiating with either Cris Cyborg or Gina Carano despite reports to the contrary, all roads appear to lead to Holm (or that Canadian Olympian chick). Official CP Prediction: Holm and Rousey have already been booked as opposing coaches on the next, next, next season of The Ultimate Fighter and will fight in June of 2015. Or they’ve been booked as coaches on the next *international* season of TUF. Whatever, f*ck you.

J. Jones

Wednesday Afternoon Link Dump: Chael Sonnen’s Brazilian Vacation Home, Pat Barry’s GLORY Debut Set for May 3rd, Depressing Maury Povich Screen-Caps + More

(Chael Sonnen shows off the palatial estate that the UFC has set him up with for ‘TUF Brazil’, while his wife cooks dinner. Remember honey, he likes it medium rare. / Video via UFC)

Former World Champion Boxer Holly Holm Nears UFC Deal, Rousey Fight Looms (BleacherReport)

Newly-Signed UFC fighter Steve Bosse Retires (MMAFighting)

GLORY 16: Pat Barry vs Zack Mwekassa Booked for May 3 in Denver on Spike TV (MMAMania)

Dude Slaps His Wife in Public, Gets Knocked the F*ck Out (DrunkenStepfather)

‘Happy Gilmore’ Has Finally Received The 8-Bit Video Game Treatment (Filmdrunk)

WATCH: A Supercut of Christopher Walken Dancing in His Movies (PopHangover)

The 8 Types of Laughter and What They Mean (EveryJoe)

First Pro Athlete Revealed on Lindsay Lohan’s Sex-Conquest List (TerezOwens)

18 Japanese Movie Posters That Were Lost in Translation (Guyism)

The 20 Best Breakfast Cereals of All Time (HiConsumption)

Inexplicable Video of the Day: “Satanic Puberty” (HolyTaco)

23 Morbidly Depressing Maury Screen-Caps (BREAK)


(Chael Sonnen shows off the palatial estate that the UFC has set him up with for ‘TUF Brazil’, while his wife cooks dinner. Remember honey, he likes it medium rare. / Video via UFC)

Former World Champion Boxer Holly Holm Nears UFC Deal, Rousey Fight Looms (BleacherReport)

Newly-Signed UFC fighter Steve Bosse Retires (MMAFighting)

GLORY 16: Pat Barry vs Zack Mwekassa Booked for May 3 in Denver on Spike TV (MMAMania)

Dude Slaps His Wife in Public, Gets Knocked the F*ck Out (DrunkenStepfather)

‘Happy Gilmore’ Has Finally Received The 8-Bit Video Game Treatment (Filmdrunk)

WATCH: A Supercut of Christopher Walken Dancing in His Movies (PopHangover)

The 8 Types of Laughter and What They Mean (EveryJoe)

First Pro Athlete Revealed on Lindsay Lohan’s Sex-Conquest List (TerezOwens)

18 Japanese Movie Posters That Were Lost in Translation (Guyism)

The 20 Best Breakfast Cereals of All Time (HiConsumption)

Inexplicable Video of the Day: “Satanic Puberty” (HolyTaco)

23 Morbidly Depressing Maury Screen-Caps (BREAK)

The Ronda Rousey Problem: Can You Be a Great Champion Without Challengers?


(Rousey puts her game-face on before her 66-second title defense at UFC 170. / Photo by Esther Lin for MMAFighting.com)

By Adam Ackerman

Ronda Rousey is amazing. Simply amazing. The UFC women’s bantamweight champion possesses world-class Judo, and apparently some highly-effective Muay Thai as well. Her propensity for snatching and breaking arms was developed at an age before most kids can ride a bicycle without training wheels. As a competitor, she’s given us very little to criticize. The problem with Rousey is that she may quickly run out of competition. With Sara McMann bumped out of the picture, the women’s 135-pound division currently lacks athletes who can legitimately challenge Ronda’s dominance.

If Cristiane “Cris Cyborg” Justino does in fact drop to 135 and is signed to the UFC, a super-fight years in the making could take place. Cyborg is a challenge for any woman, and some men. Her athleticism, power, aggressiveness, and diverse set of skills have brought her nothing but victories for the last nine years (except for that one no-contest).  Needless to say, the former handball player turned fighter may be the biggest — and most profitable — test lurking in the future for Rousey, assuming that Cyborg ever settles her beef with Dana White.

Outside of that, there are painfully few challengers that the UFC could throw at Ronda, and call it a “competitive matchup” with a straight face.

I was beyond excited to see Rousey take on Cat Zingano, whose striking skills and power, purple belt in BJJ, and high-level wrestling background make her more than qualified to give Rousey a great fight. Watching her finish Miesha Tate toward the end of their three-round back-and-forth battle gave me confidence in her abilities to contend for the title. However, after her knee injury and the devastating loss of her husband, she has been sidelined for the time being. According to her manager Ed Soares, however, she could be ready to step back into the cage “as early as June.”


(Rousey puts her game-face on before her 66-second title defense at UFC 170. / Photo by Esther Lin for MMAFighting.com)

By Adam Ackerman

Ronda Rousey is amazing. Simply amazing. The UFC women’s bantamweight champion possesses world-class Judo, and apparently some highly-effective Muay Thai as well. Her propensity for snatching and breaking arms was developed at an age before most kids can ride a bicycle without training wheels. As a competitor, she’s given us very little to criticize. The problem with Rousey is that she may quickly run out of competition. With Sara McMann bumped out of the picture, the women’s 135-pound division currently lacks athletes who can legitimately challenge Ronda’s dominance.

If Cristiane “Cris Cyborg” Justino does in fact drop to 135 and is signed to the UFC, a super-fight years in the making could take place. Cyborg is a challenge for any woman, and some men. Her athleticism, power, aggressiveness, and diverse set of skills have brought her nothing but victories for the last nine years (except for that one no-contest).  Needless to say, the former handball player turned fighter may be the biggest — and most profitable — test lurking in the future for Rousey, assuming that Cyborg ever settles her beef with Dana White.

Outside of that, there are painfully few challengers that the UFC could throw at Ronda, and call it a “competitive matchup” with a straight face.

I was beyond excited to see Rousey take on Cat Zingano, whose striking skills and power, purple belt in BJJ, and high-level wrestling background make her more than qualified to give Rousey a great fight. Watching her finish Miesha Tate toward the end of their three-round back-and-forth battle gave me confidence in her abilities to contend for the title. However, after her knee injury and the devastating loss of her husband, she has been sidelined for the time being. According to her manager Ed Soares, however, she could be ready to step back into the cage “as early as June.”

There is one other women fighting outside the UFC, who I believe would be an interesting and tough match-up for Ronda Rousey. Holly Holm is an incredibly accomplished boxer, on a level we have not seen in either women’s or men’s MMA. With a astonishing 18 boxing titles in three weight classes, and a kickboxing record of 2-1, Holly steps into the cage with a striking background most MMA fighters would fear. With five KO/TKOs (including four via kicks) and one decision in her professional MMA record, she would seem to be her way to being signed by the UFC — as long as her management and the UFC can agree on a price. These are the women I see putting on exciting fights against Rousey, and the fact that only one of them is currently under contract with the UFC is a bit of a problem.

Rousey is great for the UFC, and she might very well be the promotion’s biggest star as of right now. Having her as a champion is a good thing, but without quality opponents, her pay-per-view buys will drop and her star will fade, as fans lose interest in the latest Ronda Rousey squash-match. The three women mentioned above would hypothetically make for better fights than the champ has had in the UFC so far, but there is no guarantee that she will ever fight any of them. Cyborg may not make weight, or get signed. Cat Zingano may not come back to fight at the top level, and Holly Holm may continue fighting on MMA’s regional circuit, competing in boxing and kickboxing on the side.

Women’s MMA is several years, if not a full decade behind the men’s divisions in terms of competition and depth of talent. There are fewer fighters, fewer weight classes, and fewer opportunities for women to compete. But the tide is turning. Ronda may remain on top, unchallenged for years until the sport catches up to her and young athletes who have been training all of their lives (like the champ herself) start fighting in the Octagon. In the meantime, I hope for the sake of the sport — and for Ronda Rousey herself — that we get to see her in competitive match-ups against the existing cream of the crop. Until then, we can only wonder how far ahead of the game she really is.