UFC: Why Mirko "Cro Cop" vs. "Minotauro" Nogueira II Should NOT Happen

Nostalgia can be a funny thing.It plays with the senses, confounds reason, and clouds memory. Like a drug, it impairs proper judgement and good sense in favour of a high that’s progressively harder and harder to achieve.In combat sports, nostalgia is a…

Nostalgia can be a funny thing.

It plays with the senses, confounds reason, and clouds memory. Like a drug, it impairs proper judgement and good sense in favour of a high that’s progressively harder and harder to achieve.

In combat sports, nostalgia is a fun, almost vital part of the fan experience. No sport fosters an emotional fan connection like one-on-one fighting, and that’s a connection that can stay strong in the face of time’s cruel onward march. Time and again, we forget the obvious realities of the fight game while we rally once again around a beloved fight or fighter.

Most of the time, when it comes to fighting, nostalgia is like pissing your pants: sure, it feels all warm and fuzzy while it’s happening, but once it’s over you’re left with a big mess, and an even bigger embarrassment.

Recently, there’s been a lot of talk surrounding a possible rematch between Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic and Antonio “Minotauro” Nogueira at UFC 134 in Brazil. That isn’t really a surprise to me as both men are some of the most legendary figures in all the sport. Their names in a headline will, for good or ill, get fans talking.

No, what surprises me is that the reaction has been largely positive. As in, people actually want to see this fight happen.

So I’m going to go ahead and throw a cold glass of water on those (potential) plans before the sport of MMA finds itself once again with a spreading stain on its pants and an embarrassed look on its face.

I can already hear the howls of the MMA faithful as they pour out of the woodwork to burn me in effigy. How dare I desecrate the names of two of PRIDE’s greatest legends! In fact, if MMA hardcores had a “holy trinity” it would be these two men along with Wanderlei Silva (Fedor having been excommunicated to the M-1 underworld).

But beyond rabid fandom, there is a legitimate argument being put forward for making this fight.

“Both guys are old and past their moment,” the argument goes, “so why not have them square off now in a fun, just for the hell of it fight? What’s the harm?”

It’s ironic, because just last weekend MMA fans were railing against the perceived pointlessness of the Manny Pacquiao vs. Shane Mosley fight. And now, within the space of a few days, here they are calling for a fight that has “pointless” written all over it.

I realize the analogy isn’t a perfect one. Manny Pacquiao is by no means over the hill, and any PPV with his name on it—be it Pacquiao vs. Jose Canseco, Pacquiao vs. Zulu, even Pacquiao vs. His inner doubt—is a cultural event.

But Shane Mosley certainly is. And the perception of this fight from fans top to bottom was that it was a “keep busy” fight, a filler fight for Pac-Man in lieu of a serious, actual, Floyd Mayweather-inclusive fight.

In other words, barring a fluke Mosley win, it was utterly pointless. Boxing fans accepted it, but MMA fans were livid. To paraphrase Gus Johnson, such things don’t happen in MMA.

Yet here we are, talking about dragging a bell-rung and injury plagued Nogueira out for another dance with Mirko Cro Cop’s ghost. I think a large part of this has to do with how unbelievably awesome their first fight was, back in the halcyon days of PRIDE. If you’ve never seen it, then for God’s sake stop reading this article and go watch it! Few fights in all of combat sports have ever been so emotional and dramatic.

In fact, if you had to judge based on this fight alone, you’d be forced to to conclude that Antonio Nogueira is one of the baddest men who ever lived.

And he is. So is Mirko, for that matter. But their moment has passed, and the magic of their first clash will never be duplicated.

Look at what made their first fight so exciting: Mirko’s incredible striking and Antonio’s cast iron chin.

Today, Mirko’s striking consists of high-fiving Pat Barry and absolutely refusing to pull the trigger, while Nog’s iron chin is a thing of the past. In two of his last three, “Minotauro” has been knocked cold by guys who had a reputation for “pillow-fists” BEFORE their fight with him.

Call me crazy, but that doesn’t exactly seem like a recipe for a fun rematch. Instead, it looks like the makings of a classic fistic disaster.

My grandfather served in the air force in the Second World War. My friend’s grandfather served in a similar position in the German Luftwaffe. If they ever actually fought, I guarantee their battle was dramatic, emotional, scary, and pulse-pounding every single second.

If they fought again today, it would be two old men circling each other, tentatively poking each other with their canes.

That’s not a fight I want to see. And neither is Mirko Cro Cop vs. Minotauro Nogueira II.

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Video: A Glimpse Inside the Zuffa Fighter Summit

(Video courtesy of YouTube/CharlieSpaniard)

UFC  welterweight Charlie Brenneman decided to video blog from the Zuffa Fighter Summit the past couple of days to give us mortals a glimpse of what goes on behind closed doors at this yearly meeting of extraordinary gentlemen and gentlewomen.

In the clip above UFC president Dana White opines about his bitter nemeses — the much maligned “so called MMA media,” offers suggestions on how to make money after retirement and recommends that his employees embrace social media as a free tool to increase their star power.


(Video courtesy of YouTube/CharlieSpaniard)

UFC  welterweight Charlie Brenneman decided to video blog from the Zuffa Fighter Summit the past couple of days to give us mortals a glimpse of what goes on behind closed doors at this yearly meeting of extraordinary gentlemen and gentlewomen.

In the clip above UFC president Dana White opines about his bitter nemeses — the much maligned “so called MMA media,” offers suggestions on how to make money after retirement and recommends that his employees embrace social media as a free tool to increase their star power.

“You can continue to make money even when it’s done. My best example is a guy like Chuck Liddell. You know, Chuck Liddell is still famous. People still pay him to come do stuff, whether it’s signings or openings of their business or whatever it is, that guy’s still making a lot of money,” White pointed out. “It’s because he used everything he could. He became big; he became famous…Use social media. You’re going to learn how to do it while you’re here. It’s incredible and it costs you nothing. It doesn’t cost you a dime. It’s free.”

In a message that may or may not have been directed at Nick Diaz, White told fighters that although it isn’t the most exciting part of the job, fulfilling media requirements and PR responsibilities is a requirement of being a UFC fighter, unless the interview is for an outlet that isn’t considered what the promotion considers as being, “real media.”

“Believe me, [doing PR] is part of the deal. You have to do the PR…When we first started this thing… You guys won’t be doing interviews with fucking Hamster Weekly any more,” White explained. “We actually have some real media and when she goes through everything with you today, hopefully you guys will realize it and get it through your head how important it is…”

Hamster Weekly is going to be pissed about this latest development. We feel your pain, HW.

At the end of the video UFC heavyweight Pat Barry shared his thoughts on the most significant news that came out of the three-day event.

“The insurance for the fighters [was the highlight of the summit]. I think that we’ve been needing that since I got into the sport, man. I know like myself, and a lot of other guys [need it]. The top guys in the sport are making top dollars, but when you’re first coming up like I’m still doing now, you’re not getting extraordinary amounts of money. When we get injured outside of the ring — which is where the majority of injuries happen is in practice —  that has to come out of pocket. A lot of us don’t have insurance either, so sometimes we have to fight, make a payday and then use that payday to pay off what we had to get taken care of by the doctors, man. So that’s the highlight of the [summit] for me, man. It’s the insurance for fighters outside of fighting. That’s the greatest part of it.”

UFC: Interview with UFC Rising Prospect Daniel “Danny Boy” Downes

“Danny Boy” Downes is a young, hungry up-and-coming fighting out of the Roufusport camp in Wisconsin. The 25-year-old fighter was born in Chicago and moved to Wisconsin after college to train and pursue a career as a mixed martial arti…

“Danny Boy” Downes is a young, hungry up-and-coming fighting out of the Roufusport camp in Wisconsin. 

The 25-year-old fighter was born in Chicago and moved to Wisconsin after college to train and pursue a career as a mixed martial artist.  Downes fought twice in the WEC before that company was absorbed in the UFC last winter. 

He headlines the North American Fighting Championship’s Mayhem event in Milwaukee on Friday May 6 while waiting to get a shot at fighting in the big show.

Q: Where did you get the Danny Boy nickname?

A: At the gym, I was always the skinny Irish kid.  That’s where that came from.  I’m not a natural athlete by any means, so I’ve gotten to this point with hard work and toughness, and I’m scrappy kinda like Mickey Ward almost.  So that’s how the Danny Boy thing came about.  I’m a hard-nosed scrappy type.

Q: You fight at lightweight, and I noticed you are 6-feet tall.  Is that a natural weight for you or do you cut to get down to 155?

A: I have to cut.  I just have a thinner frame.  So I think lightweight is the best weight for me to train at.  As I get older, I’m only 25 now, I may move to welterweight.  I think right now lightweight is the best for me especially because I usually have a height advantage.  I don’t think you will ever see me going to featherweight or below.  I know that guys like George Roop do it but I already have to cut to make 155 so that is not for me.

Q: I see you train at Duke Roufus’ gym.  Who else besides Pat Barry trains there?

A: It’s me, Pat Barry, Anthony Pettis, Eric Cope.  Alan Belcher comes in from time to time, and we also just got Ben Askren.  We got a bunch of up-and-coming guys that people haven’t heard of.  It’s really grown.  There was a time for a while a few years ago when it was just me a couple other guys fighting and goin’ so it was kinda hard.  It’s different now, and it’s fun to have guys like Anthony and Eric on that high level which makes everyone better.

Q: I was reading that Pat was pretty down after his last fight because he couldn’t put Beltran away.  Has he gotten past that?

A: It’s what they say with baseball hitters how they have to have a short memory.  It’s the same way with fighters.  Everyone wants to finish fights but let it bother you.  He can’t worry about Joey Beltran when he has Cheick Kongo coming up in June.  He’s already forgotten about it.  You gotta have that short memory.  You can’t let setbacks drag you down.  You just gotta go on to the next one.

Q: Your record is 7-1.  Was that loss early in your career or was that recently?

A: It was at WEC 49 against Chris Horodecki.  I got a call on that Tuesday from my manager and he asked me where what my weight was at.  And I was thinking I probably have a fight coming up on short notice.  I figured it was local Wisconsin fight or something and he asked me if I was to fight Chris Horodecki in Edmonton on the WEC card.  The only problem was I was kinda out of shape.  I’d been drinking and a few things like that and had let myself go a bit.  I was like 178 on Tuesday and made 156 on Saturday.  I fought Chris Horodecki in front of however many thousand people on Versus.  I didn’t perform that well but it got my foot in the door and then I got that win against Zhang in my next fight last December at WEC 53.  Now I got the UFC contract and we’ll see what happens next.

Q: So you are headlining the NAFC Mayhem card correct?

A: Yes.

Q: When I was looking it up it said to be announced.  Do you know who you are fighting yet?

A: Yea. I fighting a guy named Tory Bogguess.  I don’t really know that much about him.  You can’t get too bogged down with the little details.  I don’t have any recent film on the guy but you can’t worry about that you just got to go out there and perform regardless that is my job.  Even in my last fight against Zhang at WEC 53 I watched a lot of tape, but fight went the exact opposite of my gameplan.  That’s why in MMA you’ve got to train everything.  You try to pigeon hole yourself into any one thing.

Q: Are you more comfortable standing or do you train everything equally?

A: When I started, I was a strike first and then we’ll see what happens on the ground.  But, now I’ve changed.  GSP is a perfect example of what the modern MMA fighter needs to be.  He is great at everything.  By being good it opens up a lot of other things.  By having good wrestling or jiu jitsu, it opens up my striking and makes it better.  The days of the one dimensional MMA fighter is over.  Everybody is getting good at everything.

Q: Do you ever travel to a different gym or try out any other schools?  I know that guys do that a lot these days.

A: It’s been really nice with the success of our gym.  Guys come in and we get new people a lot.  I haven’t had to leave.  These days they want to train at our gym so it’s like they come to me.  The gym has really exploded and we have some new instructors so it’s been really good.  You can’t get stale or do the same thing.  One you get bored and two you don’t get better.  You gotta keep it fresh and keep getting better.

 

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UFC on Versus 4 Fight Card: Marquardt vs. Johnson

Filed under: UFCThe UFC on Versus 4 fight card will be headlined by Nate Marquardt making his welterweight debut against Anthony Johnson on Sunday, June 26 at the CONSOL Energy Center in Pittsburgh.

In the co-main event, heavyweight kickboxer Pat Barr…

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Nate Marquardt.The UFC on Versus 4 fight card will be headlined by Nate Marquardt making his welterweight debut against Anthony Johnson on Sunday, June 26 at the CONSOL Energy Center in Pittsburgh.

In the co-main event, heavyweight kickboxer Pat Barry takes on another heavy hitter in Cheick Kongo.

The UFC announced the event Tuesday and that tickets will go on sale Saturday, April 23 at 10 a.m. ET. UFC on Versus 4 airs live on Versus at 9 p.m. ET.

Check out the current lineup below.

How a Decision Victory Left Pat Barry Shaken and Confused

People keep telling Pat Barry he needs to get over the Joey Beltran fight. You won the decision, they say. So what if you didn’t knock him out? A victory is a victory. Take it and move on.

Barry hears them, and he knows they’re right. But after landin…

People keep telling Pat Barry he needs to get over the Joey Beltran fight. You won the decision, they say. So what if you didn’t knock him out? A victory is a victory. Take it and move on.

Barry hears them, and he knows they’re right. But after landing so many of his trademark kicks to Beltran’s legs and head throughout their three-round affair at the UFC’s second ‘Fight for the Troops’ event in January, Barry is still shaken by his inability to stop, or even seriously damage Beltran with what he thought were fight-ending strikes.

“I can’t let it go,” Barry told MMA Fighting. “I’m baffled. That’s a riddle I can’t solve. Out of the hundreds of kickboxing fights I’ve had and all the MMA fights I’ve done, I’ve never seen that. I’m shocked. It makes no sense, and I can’t figure it out. I’ve never kicked a heavybag that many times, and the guy was still walking. No bruises, no swelling, nothing. [He was] back in the gym on Monday doing squats and getting kicked by other people.”

The Truth About Fighting Your Friends

Filed under: UFCIf UFC president Dana White has said it once, he’s said it a thousand times: MMA is not a team sport.

It’s a sport that’s all about individual success and failure. It’s about two men locked in a violent struggle for money and status, a…

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If UFC president Dana White has said it once, he’s said it a thousand times: MMA is not a team sport.

It’s a sport that’s all about individual success and failure. It’s about two men locked in a violent struggle for money and status, and there’s not enough of either to go around.

This, of course, is the inexorable logic of the fight promoter, who stands to profit handsomely if he can convince friends, teammates, and training partners to forego all other loyalties and duke it out in the cage. But then, the promoter doesn’t have to actually get in there and knock his best friend unconscious.

As UFC heavyweight Brendan Schaub put it, “This isn’t basketball. It’s not like Magic [Johnson] and [Larry] Bird playing each other and being all buddy-buddy. Somebody’s getting fu**ed up.”