Alistair Overeem: Much Ado About Nothing? Or a Legitimate Opponent for JDS?

Building hype is always an important part of pushing a pay-per-view card for the UFC. Oftentimes, this hype can be more fantasy than reality. Whether it is saying that Chael Sonnen, Vitor Belfort and Yushin Okami are all fighters custom-built to take o…

Building hype is always an important part of pushing a pay-per-view card for the UFC. Oftentimes, this hype can be more fantasy than reality. Whether it is saying that Chael Sonnen, Vitor Belfort and Yushin Okami are all fighters custom-built to take on Anderson Silva or that Dan Hardy had something resembling a chance to beat Georges St-Pierre, things can tend to get a little bit…wild. 

Alistair Overeem is the latest recipient of more hype than he is due. He has been for a long while now, in fact. 

As with many fighters, Overeem rose to fame through his days in the late Pride organization.  Competing in the promotion from 2002-2007, Overeem was a distinctly middle-of-the-pack 205-pounder, where he sported a solid 8-4 record before suffering three first-round losses in a row, dragging him down to 8-7 in his Pride career. 

Looking deeper, however, you begin to notice a pattern. His losses came against Chuck Liddell, Antonio Rogerio Nogueira (twice), Mauricio Rua (twice), Ricardo Arona and Fabricio Werdum. All tough fighters who, with the exception of Ricardo Arona, had (or still have) long, strong careers in MMA after Pride.

The list of people he beat is not nearly as star-studded. In fact, the only fighters of note who he beat in Pride are now-middleweight Vitor Belfort and Strikeforce heavyweight Sergei Kharitonov (who avenged that loss the next year).

After Pride dissolved, Overeem made his permanent move up to heavyweight. He started off by beating Michael Knaap in a K-1 fight and then lost the aforementioned Kharitonov rematch, getting KO’d in the first round. 

Not even two full months later, he bounced back and absolutely embarrassed Paul Buentello in a title fight, making him the first (and to this point, only) Strikeforce Heavyweight Champion. However, that beatdown would be the closest thing to a fair fight for Overeem for a long while.

Except for a mega fight against Mirko Cro Cop (which ended in a No Contest because of some brutal knees to the groin), it can be said without much debate that Alistair Overeem was “fed” opponents.  Boxing-style. In fact, some of these bouts were so egregiously lopsided on-paper they likely would not have been approved by American Athletic Commissions. 

 

At Dream 4, Overeem faced Lee Tae-Hyun when Tae-Hyun was just 1-1 in his MMA career. He had a pair of fights in the Netherlands against Gary Goodridge, who was three fights into what would become an eight-fight losing streak (his fight before Overeem was a loss to Paul Buentello) and Tony Sylvester (a fight that ended before it began, if possible).

From there, he had three fights in Japan that are, in this writer’s opinion, an embarrassment to the sport; he fought James Thompson (best known for having his misshapen ear punched flat by Kimbo Slice), Kazuyuki Fujita (best known for being the subject of one of the best articles on Cracked.com) and Todd Duffee (best known for his fastest-ever-in-the-UFC knockout of Tim Hague, but still a 25-year-old who had no business being in a fight with Overeem). 

Even his two most recent wins in Strikeforce do not do much to bolster his resume. Brett Rogers was ejected from Strikeforce with a 2-3 record after being arrested for domestic violence, and recently lost his Titan Fighting Championships debut to UFC washout Eddie Sanchez. 

Fabricio Werdum, meanwhile, is easily the best fighter Overeem has faced since his 2007 Pride loss to “Shogun” Rua. As somebody often ranked as a top 10 (and even a top five) heavyweight, however, he is also probably the most overrated fighter in the division. His performances against top competition are on par with Overeem (that is, not great), and his standup is basically what you would expect out of somebody labeled a “Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu specialist”.

So realistically, what can you expect out of Alistair Overeem now that he is going to be squaring off against the top heavyweights in the UFC? While Overeem has not seen many top mixed martial artists on the opposite end of the cage (or ring), he has an undeniably strong skill set that will, at the very least, keep him competitive in the division.

 

His success in K-1 speaks volumes about his striking skills, and he will have an edge over most of the fighters in the division standing up. His cardio is unknown at this point, but it passed a tough test against Fabricio Werdum earlier this year, with Overeem looking good for championship rounds after 15 minutes of being clinched and escaping takedowns. 

His ground skills take a definite backseat to his standup, however. While he has enough veteran savvy to not be easily submitted, he is not going to be facing competition that he will be able to submit, either. He can effectively work the ground and pound, but the UFC’s heavyweight division is absolutely stacked with successful NCAA wrestlers and strong BJJ practitioners.

The biggest change for Overeem will be the size difference, or lack thereof. As any MMA fan knows, Alistair Overeem is an imposing individual with a hulking frame. He successfully uses this advantage in both MMA and kickboxing, bullying opponents into the cage (or ropes) to set up for his destructive knees, or using his bulk to keep opponents in position on the ground. This advantage, however, is going to be neutralized in the UFC, with loads of comparably huge individuals that he will not be able to impose his will on.

With Overeem set to face Brock Lesnar at UFC 141, we are likely to see a cross section of where Overeem is as a mixed martial artist. We know that Overeem can knee mid-level heavyweights into submission, but the question is, how he will handle a 265-pound Brock Lesnar charging him down? Objectively breaking it down, it remains to be seen how he will be able to handle the wrecking ball that is a Brock Lesnar takedown. 

So, prediction time…who will win when Overeem and Lesnar face off? There are plenty of variables at work here, largely concerning how Lesnar has recovered from his long and difficult layoff since his UFC 121 loss to Cain Velasquez over a year ago. 

 

Re-watching Brock Lesnar’s bout with Heath Herring is a strong reminder of what Lesnar is actually capable of. He is far, far faster than he should be at his size, and ultimately, the biggest factor is going to be whether or not he can use his speed and attack with the same sort of aggressive, driving takedowns we see from Josh Koscheck.

If he can get Overeem to the ground, he has the wrestling skills to keep the fight there, where he will have an enormous advantage. Even if Overeem spends his entire camp dedicated to defending the takedown, it is still unlikely that he is capable of avoiding many of those.

That said, this bout is nothing close to a sure-thing for Lesnar. As all MMA fans know, Lesnar is returning from a second battle with diverticulitis. He is reportedly fully recovered and has made several appearances looking as formidable as ever.

However, with over a year away from the sport, there is a huge question mark surrounding his strength, speed, and most importantly, his stamina. With Lesnar vs. Overeem slated for five rounds, we could see Lesnar’s cardio pushed harder than ever in his first fight back. 

Ultimately, though, it has been a long, long while since Overeem has faced somebody that matches his sheer strength. At its core, this still ends up being a match between an explosive striker and an explosive wrestler. When that is what a fight boils down to, you have to bet on the wrestler.

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Randy Couture Says Extended Layoff Has Helped Brock Lesnar Improve His Skills

Brock Lesnar will make his anticipated return at UFC 141 to face Alistair Overeem after enduring a long layoff with diverticulitis. The extended break has left some fans skeptical about Lesnar’s return and are doubting he will become as dominant a…

Brock Lesnar will make his anticipated return at UFC 141 to face Alistair Overeem after enduring a long layoff with diverticulitis. 

The extended break has left some fans skeptical about Lesnar’s return and are doubting he will become as dominant as he was before. But according to UFC Hall of Famer Randy Couture, the best has to yet to come from the 265-pound South Dakota native.

“I don’t think his difficulties will affect his ability to fight,” Couture told ESPN.co.uk. “I think he’s going to be better having had, for the first time, the time to change and realise his potential.”

Couture defended the UFC heavyweight title against Lesnar at UFC 91, which saw the former WWE star pummel the 47-year-old to capture the heavyweight crown. There was an enormous size disadvantage between the two heavyweights as Lesnar used his size and strength to wear down the smaller Couture. 

Since then, Lesnar has trained with “The Natural” and Couture believes the former UFC champion is more credible than people might think. 

“Something about being stood in front of a guy who is that size, but can still move as fluidly as he moves is a very unique thing. You don’t find guys like that, he’s an anomaly,” he said. 

But having shared experience with both Lesnar and Overeem, Couture said the bout will come down to which competitor can implement their strength first.

“If Brock closes the distance and gets his hands on Overeem, you’re going to see Overeem on the bottom a lot. That’s not a great place to be,” he said. “If Brock’s timid and allows Overeem to establish his range and throws those big knees, we’ve established that Brock hasn’t made friends with being hit in the face yet.”

“Either way, it’s a great fight and an exciting match-up, no doubt,” he added.

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12 Things You Can Expect to See at UFC 141

On December 30 a heavyweight collision will be brought to Las Vegas as former champions Brock Lesnar and Alistair Overeem meet in the cage.The winner between these two behemoths will move on to challenge current champ Junior dos Santos for the heavywei…

On December 30 a heavyweight collision will be brought to Las Vegas as former champions Brock Lesnar and Alistair Overeem meet in the cage.

The winner between these two behemoths will move on to challenge current champ Junior dos Santos for the heavyweight title. 

In the co-main event, a pivotal lightweight affair takes place when the surging Donald Cerrone meets with former top contender and season five winner of The Ultimate Fighter, Nate Diaz.

A lot of action will be taking place at the Mandalay Bay Events Center come two weeks from now and here’s what you can expect. 

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Latest Round of Drug Tests Complete, Alistair Overeem Turns Attention Back to Training

Filed under: UFCUFC heavyweight Alistair Overeem flew from the Netherlands to London late last night all for — depending on how well hydrated he is — what will probably amount to less than a few minutes of work. That’s because priority number one for…

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Alistair OvereemUFC heavyweight Alistair Overeem flew from the Netherlands to London late last night all for — depending on how well hydrated he is — what will probably amount to less than a few minutes of work. That’s because priority number one for Overeem this week is to take a drug test that the Nevada State Athletic Commission will accept, and then to return to training as soon as possible.

And he does mean as soon as possible.

Speaking from his hotel room in London late last night, Overeem outlined his plan to take the test and then immediately return to his training camp in the Netherlands, where he’ll remain until just after Christmas in order to spend as much time with his ailing mother as possible before he meets Brock Lesnar at UFC 141 on December 30.

“It is unfortunate that all this stuff is happening at the same time, but then again, if you operate on this level it’s hardly ever perfect,” Overeem said of a hectic week that included defending his recent travels to the NSAC on Monday and battling questions about whether he’d intentionally tried to avoid a drug test. “There’s always something going on.”

NSAC executive director Keith Kizer confirmed to MMA Fighting that Overeem had taken the drug screening at approximately noon London time on Wednesday. Kizer also said the NSAC had never dealt with an issue quite like this one, though the commission is still expecting to receive the results of Overeem’s December 7 screening — a test deemed insufficient because it was taken through Overeem’s personal doctor in the Netherlands and then sent to a lab in Germany — some time later this week.

Though Overeem was granted a conditional license by the NSAC, it’s contingent on his drug screenings coming back clear before his UFC debut, and on him taking two more random tests at his own expense in the next six months — a schedule that will make him “the most tested fighter,” Overeem said.

At Monday’s hearing, much of the blame for the communication breakdown that resulted in Overeem missing his original drug test deadline was heaped on Overeem’s assistant, Collin Lam. But now that he’s had a chance to assess the situation more fully, Overeem said, he stands by Lam’s efforts.

“I’ve recently seen the communications, and in my opinion, my assistant was working to the best of his ability. I didn’t have a direct line of communication with the commission. They could have contacted me directly and given me instructions.”

It’s just one distraction of many for Overeem of late. The Dutch heavyweight split with his longtime management at Golden Glory in September over what he termed a “breach of trust,” and then moved his training camp to Las Vegas’ Xtreme Couture gym to prepare for Lesnar. In November, however, Overeem left Vegas to return home to the Netherlands to see to his ailing mother, who he said is dealing with the after-effects of “harsh treatments” for cancer.

“My mother’s situation, of course, it’s hard,” said Overeem. “She had cancer before two times. Two tumors, the worst ones, were the most aggressive ones. She had the most harsh treatment you can imagine. But the thing is, physically she’s not fully recovered, [and] mentally…she had a test recently where they found some suspicious cells, so mentally she’s very nervous. That’s a little bit hard. That alone is a bit of a distraction, but I have gotten all my training in.”

Of course, it’s not easy to prepare for a fight with a former NCAA wrestling champion back home in Holland, Overeem admitted. There might be plenty of skilled kickboxers hanging around, but the former Strikeforce heavyweight champ had to fly in some other sparring partners, he said.

It’s a lot to deal with, and all less than three weeks before what will likely be one of the biggest fights of his career. But then, Overeem said, he asked for this. The UFC gave him the option of sitting out and facing the winner of the Junior dos SantosCain Velasquez fight in November, but Overeem chose to fight Lesnar instead, simply because he wants to “be active,” he said.

“I want to get in there. That’s the way the fans see you do your thing.”

Now that the latest round of tests are complete, all he can do now is wait for the NSAC to get the results while he tries to make the most of the time he has left in the gym.

MMAFighting.com’s Ariel Helwani contributed to this report.

 

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UFC 141: Why It Will Be the Biggest Pay-Per-View Draw of the Year

On Friday, December 30, the UFC will have arguably its biggest event of the year, as former UFC heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar will face off against former Strikeforce heavyweight champion Alistair Overeem.This will be Lesnar’s first time stepp…

On Friday, December 30, the UFC will have arguably its biggest event of the year, as former UFC heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar will face off against former Strikeforce heavyweight champion Alistair Overeem.

This will be Lesnar’s first time stepping in the cage since October of 2010 when he lost his heavyweight title to Cain Velasquez.

This will also be Overeem’s first time stepping in the UFC cage ever.

Even though neither fighter has seen the UFC cage in quite some time, UFC 141 will be the biggest pay-per-view draw of the year.

There are a few reasons for that, the first of which is that it is the New Year’s Eve card. The New Year’s card is typically one of the bigger cards of the year, and this one is no different.

With Lesnar-Overeem, Donald Cerrone vs. Nick Diaz and Jon Fit—never mind, ignore Fitch—this makes for one of the most exciting cards of the year.

And, although Dana White has called GSP the best PPV draw, that honor has to go to Brock Lesnar.

Lesnar has headlined four of the top six UFC PPVs of all time, and has been featured on one more in the top 20. Lesnar brings in the viewers.

In UFC history, seven PPVs have had 1,000,000 buys or more. Lesnar has headlined four of those. He is, without a doubt, the top PPV star.

The final reason that UFC 141 will be the biggest card of the year, is once again, due to Brock Lesnar.

Lesnar has been out of the cage for 14 months. When he goes back in the Octagon, everyone and their grandmother are going to want to see what happens.

Admittedly, my grandmother probably has never heard of him, but that isn’t the point.

Lesnar vs. Overeem is a matchup that has been talked about for years. Both are huge heavyweights, standing over six feet tall and weighing over 250 pounds.

This is one of the biggest matchups, both literally and figuratively, in UFC history.

I’ll be watching—will you?

Tim McTiernan is a Featured Columnist for Bleacher Report. For the latest news on everything MMA, follow me on twitter @tmt2393.

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Frank Mir Should Challenge Junior Dos Santos Before Lesnar or Overeem

On December 30th, 2011, over 500 pounds of mixed martial arts heavyweight brawn will collide inside the UFC Octagon.  Two of MMA’s most polarizing heavyweights will look to destroy one another for a chance to challenge UFC heavyweight champion Jun…

On December 30th, 2011, over 500 pounds of mixed martial arts heavyweight brawn will collide inside the UFC Octagon.  Two of MMA‘s most polarizing heavyweights will look to destroy one another for a chance to challenge UFC heavyweight champion Junior Dos Santos for his newly-found strap.

Former UFC heavyweight champ Brock Lesnar and former Strikeforce heavyweight champ Alistair Overeem are both ever popular fighters with a swath of fans and critics alike.  There are not too many middle men when it comes to these two; either you are all for them or all against them, but either way, most everyone has an opinion.

This matchup of such iconic heavyweights is a goldmine for the UFC.  Their ability to garner attention when they tape up their hands is hard to duplicate, and combining them in a heavyweight super-fight of former promotional champs is a no-brainer for UFC brass.

Simply put, whoever wins this fight, which should prove to be highly competitive, will then face the daunting challenge of dethroning the man simply known as “Cigano.”  The best man for that job was just knocked out cold by the new champ as he took the belt from former champ Cain Velasquez.

Yet no matter who wins a chance at Dos Santos between Brock and Reem, something off in the peripheral view of fight fans should be distracting them.  That something is former UFC heavyweight champ Frank Mir, a man who, quite honestly, is far more deserving of a shot at Dos Santos than Brock or Alistair.

No disrespect intended towards two exciting fighters both with championship pedigrees.  Yet the math on this one is simple.  Lesnar is coming off a loss to Cain Velasquez that took place over a year ago.  Overeem is coming off a performance, if you can call it that, with Fabricio Werdum that most can assume he would prefer to forget.  The man has not ever once set foot inside the Octagon.

Brock is returning to the cage after his second bout with a very dangerous and taxing condition of diverticulitis.  There is no telling what condition or shape he will or even can be in after his corrective surgery.   

Before Overeem’s fight with Werdum, he too had not fought in Strikeforce in over a year.  His previous Strikeforce bout was a title defense against Brett Rodgers.  This title defense was his first in almost three years.  So his championship status is questionable at the very least.  His win streak is undeniable, yet on the other hand, his strength of schedule is.

So, up for No. 1 title contention in the UFC heavyweight division is a guy who has not fought in over a year, and a guy who has never fought inside the UFC.  All respect as it is due. Perhaps there is another guy more deserving of a title shot than these two?

Or at the very least, that guy, Frank Mir, should be afforded the opportunity to fight the winner of this bout and earn his chance to face Junior Dos Santos as well.  You have the short math on Brock and Overeem, here is the math on Mir.

Since one month before Lesnar’s last fight, Mir has fought and won three times in the UFC.  Two of those wins were by way of stoppage.  Most recently, Mir tapped out Minotauro Noqueira with the filthiest submission this sport has seen since Mir broke the arm of Tim Sylvia.  His kimura, in which he also broke Big Nog’s arm, marked the first time the legend had ever been tapped out. 

Before shocking the world with his second consecutive stoppage over the unstoppable Big Nog, Mir fought to a decision win over the ever-astonishing Roy Nelson.  Prior to that, he destroyed another Pride legend in Mirko Filipovic by TKO due to knee strikes. 

So, while the business sense of any fight fan can fully understand the allure of Lesnar vs. Overeem, the mentality of challenging rights is left questioning: Why is this fight for No. 1 contender status?  Hands down, the true No. 1 contender to the heavyweight title is Frank Mir. 

No amount of ticket sales can deny that.

Again, Frank has won three times since one month before Brock’s most recent fight, which was a loss by the way.  In that same time frame, Overeem had fought and won twice.  Once in Dream and the other a lackluster win over Werdum that made fight fans worldwide cringe for 15 straight minutes.  Obviously, neither of Reem’s wins were in the UFC. 

Mir has been raking in his stomping grounds and proved to be the same top heavyweight he has always been.  Something just hasn’t seemed right since after his most recent win, as we wonder what will be next for him while we already know either Brock or Alistair will be facing Junior Dos Santos.

If we were allowed to play matchmaker for just a moment, this is what makes the most sense from where Hurtsbad MMA is sitting.  Mir fights “Cigano” as soon as possible, no questions asked.  The winner of Lesnar and Reem faces Cain Velasquez for the next shot thereafter.  Hell, even Cain is as equally deserving of a shot at contender status as anyone else.

This mix up with Cain would allow either a rematch with Lesnar, which he “claims” he wants, or Cain could become the litmus test for Overeem as to how he matches up against a true MMA veteran, which quite honestly, Lesnar has yet to prove he is with any consistency. 

So all things being what they are, what we will probably see is the winner of the December 30th match go off and probably lose to Junior Dos Santos.  From where we are sitting, neither man can match the striking of JDS (sorry, Overeem fans).

In the mean time, while waiting for the first title defense of Dos Santos, we will most likely see Mir fight Velasquez for the next shot thereafter. 

At the end of the day, though, while Bellator is forcing warriors to earn their way to the top, the UFC is still booking fights based on popularity and sales.  Understanding that approach from a business standpoint, in the back of the mind of the fight fan, it still just doesn’t seem right. 

Mir will have to further prove his worth while two guys who haven’t earned a thing in the UFC get to fight for a shot at the title while Mir has been killing it.  Whoever wins between Lesnar and Reem will earn their first UFC win over a course of time that Mir won three times.  That doesn’t include the win Mir will have to earn to get one step closer before he gets there.

That math just does not make sense.

 

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