Did Strikeforce Ever Stand a Chance Once the UFC Purchased the Promotion?

After 25 years in the fight business, Strikeforce is now closing its doors on the heels of its stacked Marquardt vs. Saffiedine card. It’s a bittersweet finale for a promotion that was home to many great fighters who put on many great fights. That, aft…

After 25 years in the fight business, Strikeforce is now closing its doors on the heels of its stacked Marquardt vs. Saffiedine card. It’s a bittersweet finale for a promotion that was home to many great fighters who put on many great fights. That, after all, is what initially caught the eye of fans, Showtime and Zuffa alike.

With that in mind, many have to be wondering if there was anything that could have been done differently that would have kept Strikeforce from closing up.

When it was first announced that Zuffa had bought out Strikeforce, for the vast majority of fans, the question was not “How is Zuffa going to handle a second promotion?” The question was “When is Zuffa going to close down Strikeforce and absorb all of its fighters?”

This was for good reason, of course. Fans had seen the UFC buy and eat Japan’s Pride FC, gaining fighters like Dan Henderson and Mauricio “Shogun” Rua as a result.

The same goes for WFA, a promotion who put on just four shows before being bought out by Zuffa, which let the UFC snag Quinton “Rampage” Jackson, Frank Trigg and Lyoto Machida.

The same goes for the WEC, who pioneered the featherweight and bantamweight division in the United States before being bought out by Zuffa, which instantly netted Carlos Condit, Chael Sonnen, Brian Stann and several other top welterweights and middleweights, and would eventually give the UFC its very own featherweight and bantamweight divisions.

Still, consider the particular time when Zuffa bought out Strikeforce in March 2011. This was not too long before the UFC began pursuing a network TV deal, which would yield the seven-year deal with Fox.

That in mind, there was still a place for Strikeforce in Zuffa. An MMA promotion completely free of the impending deal, whoever it may be with, could have provided an anchor in case things started to sour. It would also afford Zuffa the leverage to pressure competitors like Bellator as they sought a new network to call home (imagine Strikeforce on Spike TV, for example).

The idea of using Strikeforce as a “minor league UFC” was also frequently brought up and made a level of sense. After all, the UFC has consistently struggled handling marketable fighters that end up on ugly losing streaks like Dan Hardy, Melvin Guillard and Yoshihiro Akiyama. In some ways, it went through with this in shifting around Nate Marquardt and Keith Jardine.

On the flip side, there wasn’t a single person that didn’t expect Zuffa to, sooner or later, make a move to snatch Gilbert Melendez, Nick Diaz, Alistair Overeem and Gegard Mousasi. Would a Strikeforce with all these fighters suddenly disappearing be nearly as entertaining? More importantly, would any television entity even be remotely interested in airing, essentially, a hodgepodge pitting UFC washouts against people you’ve never heard of?

Over the last two weeks, the various characters surrounding Strikeforce (and its closure) have opened up on the topic.

UFC President Dana White insists that Zuffa did not buy out its greatest rival at the time for the express purpose of gutting it and shutting it. Whether or not this is true is a mystery. If the UFC pulled a page from Microsoft’s book, it certainly wouldn’t be a great PR move to say so. It would be even dumber from a legal perspective, given the allegations of a monopoly that pop up from time to time.

Showtime Sports executive Stephen Espinoza, however, points the finger squarely at Zuffa. Talking with Ariel Helwani on the MMA Hour, he flatly said that the harvesting of much of Strikeforce’s talent was the main reason for their opting out of a potential extension of their deal with the promotion. The UFC, as you know, ended up acquiring most of Strikeforce’s highest-profile stars one way or another, snatching up Nick Diaz, Alistair Overeem, Dan Henderson and Fabricio Werdum within a year of the purchase.

This is all on top of the fact that Dana White, for almost as long as he has been the UFC’s top dog, has historically worn his near-irrational hatred of Showtime on his sleeve. Even after his grudge with former Showtime Sports executive Ken Hershman was semi-settled (Hershman left Showtime for HBO), White famously threw his hands in the air on Strikeforce last March over a conflict about show production.

All that in mind, it is still impossible to definitively say what UFC and Zuffa big wigs were planning when they first purchased Strikeforce.

On one hand, once again, it was obvious that Gilbert Melendez and Co. were eventually going to end up in the UFC. Even the greatest naysayer of Showtime cannot say it’s unreasonable for the network to refuse to stomach such a turn of events. Dana White, certainly, cannot say he didn’t expect Showtime to turn down a fighting promotion with no good fighters.

However, Zuffa may not have expected Showtime to keep itself so thoroughly intertwined with Strikeforce as time went on. More so, they might not have anticipated Showtime wanting to keep Strikeforce through 2012. If that was the case, it is entirely possible that Zuffa intended harvest its biggest fighters and then rebuild it on another network.

Then again, it’s entirely possible that Zuffa bought out Strikeforce fully intending to take all of its best fighters, then fire everyone else. Who knows?

This writer’s opinion? Well, again, obviously Zuffa was not going to leave those star fighters floating around. There is no question that they were going to take them some day, somehow. It is possible that Zuffa wasn’t opposed to continuing the Strikeforce brand after they stripped their greatest assets, but again, they had to have known Showtime wouldn’t have been big on this turn of events.

It’s certainly possible that Strikeforce could have played some role for Zuffa other than a quick source of talent. Whether or not Zuffa ever thought of the newly-defunct promotion as anything other than this, though, is a mystery we will probably never truly know the answer to.

So while Scott Coker might be spending the night with a glass of Johnnie Walker pondering what change he could have made, it is a futile effort. The only people who truly know if Strikeforce stood a chance are Zuffa‘s board of executives.

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Bas Rutten: ‘Gonna Have to Admit the Ladies Are Here to Stay’

Georges St-Pierre might not be a huge fan of women’s MMA, and Invicta FC 4 might have been an utter catastrophe from a sales perspective. One guy who had a great time this past Saturday, however, was former UFC heavyweight champion Bas Rutten. At Invic…

Georges St-Pierre might not be a huge fan of women’s MMA, and Invicta FC 4 might have been an utter catastrophe from a sales perspective. One guy who had a great time this past Saturday, however, was former UFC heavyweight champion Bas Rutten. At Invicta 4, Rutten had this to say:

“The ladies are here to stay. All the fights that went to decision, they were action-packed…There was non-stop action and the girls come in in-shape. I did some interviews with them, and the minimum amount they train is three to four hours a day. I had girls that said they train eight to eleven hours a day…when you see them fight, you see it’s really like that. It’s just constant pressure, constant action.”

Even though the UFC has officially picked up women’s MMA, and has current UFC (and final Strikeforce) women’s bantamweight champ Ronda Rousey headlining February’s UFC 157 card in a bout against Liz Carmouche, the idea still hasn’t caught on with many fans. UFC President Dana White, until August 2012, was openly against women ever fighting in the UFC, and once flatly said that women will “never” fight in the promotion.

While White has since softened on women fighting, the entire idea remains a hard sell for many fans. This has made life even more difficult for Invicta FC, a promotion whose core selling point is that it exclusively features women fighting.

Invicta held its fourth event this past weekend. The fights, obviously, delivered. However, because the promotion still lacks a TV deal, the promotion has been broadcasting its events live over the Internet.

It attempted to make the main card available via pay per view over the live streaming sight Ustream.tv. Unfortunately, technical problems with the website made the event unwatchable for many fans and forced the company to refund the money of those who ponied up.

While the event had its share of trouble, Bas Rutten remains a high-profile figure in the MMA world, courtesy of his work as a commentator for Pride FC, smaller MMA events and, most recently, World Series of Fighting. His endorsement means something.

Naturally, it won’t convert many naysayers. Still, Rutten is a good fan to have in your corner.

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Tyson Fury Now Looking to Fight Bob Sapp After Cain Velasquez Challenge?

Tyson Fury, a 20-0 British heavyweight boxer, made waves last week when he called out brand new heavyweight champion Cain Velasquez. After being largely met with smirks and chuckles, Fury is now setting his sights lower. Much lower. Much, much lower. T…

Tyson Fury, a 20-0 British heavyweight boxer, made waves last week when he called out brand new heavyweight champion Cain Velasquez. After being largely met with smirks and chuckles, Fury is now setting his sights lower. Much lower. Much, much lower.

Tyson Fury is now talking to Bob Sapp. From Twitter:

 

Bob Sapp is an old fan favorite, courtesy of his days fighting for the now-defunct Pride FC. There, at the legendary Pride Shockwave event, he fought Pride heavyweight champion Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira and used his mammoth strength to literally throw around the 6’3″, 240-pound Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu specialist.

He would lose the fight via second-round armbar, but remained one of the most popular heavyweights in the promotion.

In the years since, however, he has become something of a running joke among MMA fans.

After starting his career 10-3-1, he has since gone 1-13, good for a woefully bad 11-16-1 record. He is currently riding a 10-fight losing streak with nine of those fights ending in the first round. Most fans view him as a fighter who puts no effort into training or preparation and is content in simply receiving a check to show up.

Regardless, this turn of events may mean that Fury is more serious about a move to MMA than initially intended.

Nobody, not even Fury himself, could realistically believe a fight between him and Velasquez was a serious possibility. Sapp, however, is a journeyman super-heavyweight who has been fighting actively throughout Europe in recent years. Such a bout could be made and happen overseas with little difficulty.

Still, don’t get too excited for a Fury MMA debut. His sights likely remain fixed on a fight with one of the Klitschko brothers, and this could all be a publicity play.

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Tyson Fury: Why UFC Should Pursue the Heavyweight Boxing Prodigy

Tyson Fury, a high-profile heavyweight boxer from jolly ol’ England, is at a crossroads in his career. Sitting on a 20-0 record, he is desperately seeking a fight with either Wladimir or Vitali Klitschko, two brothers riding high atop the heavyweight b…

Tyson Fury, a high-profile heavyweight boxer from jolly ol’ England, is at a crossroads in his career. Sitting on a 20-0 record, he is desperately seeking a fight with either Wladimir or Vitali Klitschko, two brothers riding high atop the heavyweight boxing scene.

Out of equal parts frustration and preening, Fury is making waves in the MMA world as he calls out newly-minted UFC heavyweight champion Cain Velasquez. While the entire concept is ridiculous (and given the James Toney affair coming from that precise situation, unoriginal), Dana White should still make a call to Fury’s manager.

Not for an immediate title shot, obviously. That would be silly. That said, look at the current state of the UFC’s heavyweight division.

Zuffa currently owns a staggering majority of the world’s heavyweight talent in MMA. Unfortunately, almost every major fighter in the division is nearing the tail end of their career.

Roy Nelson is 36 years old. Fabricio Werdum is 35.

On and on, the UFC’s heavyweight division is downright dominated by fighters well over 30 years old. Mark Hunt (38), Matt Mitrione (34), Antonio Silva (33), Pat Barry (33), Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (36), Josh Barnett (35), Frank Mir (33), Alistair Overeem (32), Daniel Cormier (33), Cheick Kongo (37), Lavar Johnson (35) and Shane Carwin (37) all have a timer floating over their heads, counting down to retirement.

There are some exceptions, but very few. Stipe Miocic and Travis Browne are both currently 30 years old. Shane del Rosario is 29.

All three are good fighters, sure. However, considering where they are in their careers at this time, their games are unlikely to evolve in any serious way. That in mind, the UFC only really has two true heavyweight prospects, Stefan Struve and Todd Duffee.

Obviously, two rising fighters is not nearly enough to buoy a division staring at a mass exodus over the next two or three years. It might not even be two, given Struve’s propensity for suffering huge, scary knockouts.

Enter Tyson Fury.

We already know Tyson Fury is a good boxer. His record attests to that. At 24 years old, Fury has loads of time to improve, and a great deal of fighting ahead of him. The UFC should be looking to add fighters like Fury, who have plentiful skills in one area and the time, talent and motivation to fill in the rest.

That, after all, is how Pride got fighters like Mirko Cro Cop and Mark Hunt in the first place.

Obviously, MMA doesn’t pay as much as boxing at the top levels. Floyd Mayweather makes downright absurd amounts of money on a per-fight basis (he made $32 million guaranteed for his fight with Miguel Cotto in May). On the flip side, Georges St-Pierre, possibly the UFC’s single biggest draw at this point, makes about $5 million per fight.

On top of that, even if the UFC could match boxing dollar-for-dollar, Fury’s challenges are probably all bark with no bite (though who knows, given how he is now setting his sights on Bob Sapp of all people).

Regardless, the UFC needs to start reaching out to younger heavyweights. If established fighters like Tyson Fury even hint at an interest in joining the UFC, it needs to bite.

While a title fight with Cain Velasquez is out of the question at this point, there is no reason to think Fury can’t potentially work his way there within a couple years. That is precisely the kind of fighter the UFC needs right now.

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10 Greatest Knockout Artists in MMA History

Who doesn’t love a good knockout? Nobody, that’s who. We’ve seen a lot of fighters over the years with extraordinary levels of talent ply their skills in an effort to render another hapless man unconscious. The results are usually pleasing. Naturally, …

Who doesn’t love a good knockout? Nobody, that’s who.

We’ve seen a lot of fighters over the years with extraordinary levels of talent ply their skills in an effort to render another hapless man unconscious. The results are usually pleasing.

Naturally, some fighters are better than others at doing this. Some are, dare I say, artistic when it comes to finishing fights?

Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the 10 Greatest Knockout Artists in MMA history. Here we look at the fighters who have separated themselves from the rest of the pack, be it through creativity or consistency, and established themselves as the Leonardo da Vinci of turning somebody into a bloody mess.

Enjoy the exploration of these past-and-present fighters and find out who could possibly be the best of this bunch of legends.

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Top 10 Ugliest Debuts in UFC History

With fights like Todd Duffee vs. Tim Hague, Joe Lauzon vs. Jens Pulver and, more recently, John Moraga vs. Ulysses Gomez, it’s easy to say “that guy is going to become a great fighter.” Naturally, however, there is a flipside to this. We ha…

With fights like Todd Duffee vs. Tim Hague, Joe Lauzon vs. Jens Pulver and, more recently, John Moraga vs. Ulysses Gomez, it’s easy to say “that guy is going to become a great fighter.” Naturally, however, there is a flipside to this.

We have seen more than a few UFC debuts over the years that made us squirm, led us to think “what is this guy even doing here?” or even feel pity for the poor guy who just got his face punched off in front of a global audience.

Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the 10 Ugliest Debuts in UFC History.

Here, we take a look at some of the fighters that chose the wrong foot to put forward in their first appearance on “The Show.” Some are names you’ll remember for the better days in their career. Some you’ll remember for how bad they were in these fights. Some, meanwhile, will just make you go “who?”

Either way, prepare to have your memories refreshed of these ugly, horrible fights that you probably wish never even happened in the first place!

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