Yesterday morning, Roach entered a gym in Macau for an open workout scheduled ahead of Pacquiao’s clash with Brandon Rios this Saturday. Shortly after entering, Roach got into a heated altercation with Brandon Rios’ trainers, Robert Garcia and Alex Ariza, regarding gym time. When Rios’ crew refused to leave despite their time being up, Roach called Garcia a “piece of shit,” setting into motion a back-and-forth that would result in Roach being kicked in the chest, called a “faggot” repeatedly, and having his Parkinson’s disease mocked and laughed at by Rios and his crew of troglodyte cohorts.
Now, while some of the blame for this altercation can be placed on Roach for his overly-aggressive approach (and somewhat insidious use of the term “Mexican motherfucker”), to act as if Garcia and Ariza’s childish mocking of a boxing legend’s incurable disease is anything less than despicable, abhorrent behavior is to sell the incident short.
Fuck you, Robert Garcia. Fuck you, Alex Ariza. Fuck you both to Hell. May your tiny, tiny genitals be severed from your bodies and fed to the meanest, junkyardiest dogs this planet has to offer while the rest of you is cast to the boats.
After the jump: A second angle of the confrontation, as well as a little backstory on the rough history between Roach and Ariza.
Yesterday morning, Roach entered a gym in Macau for an open workout scheduled ahead of Pacquiao’s clash with Brandon Rios this Saturday. Shortly after entering, Roach got into a heated altercation with Brandon Rios’ trainers, Robert Garcia and Alex Ariza, regarding gym time. When Rios’ crew refused to leave despite their time being up, Roach called Garcia a “piece of shit,” setting into motion a back-and-forth that would result in Roach being kicked in the chest, called a “faggot” repeatedly, and having his Parkinson’s disease mocked and laughed at by Rios and his crew of troglodyte cohorts.
Now, while some of the blame for this altercation can be placed on Roach for his overly-aggressive approach (and somewhat insidious use of the term “Mexican motherfucker”), to act as if Garcia and Ariza’s childish mocking of a boxing legend’s incurable disease is anything less than despicable, abhorrent behavior is to sell the incident short.
Fuck you, Robert Garcia. Fuck you, Alex Ariza. Fuck you both to Hell. May your tiny, tiny genitals be severed from your bodies and fed to the meanest, junkyardiest dogs this planet has to offer while the rest of you is cast to the boats.
A second angle of the confrontation, as well as a little backstory on the rough history between Roach and Ariza, is below.
For those of you who think this was an isolated incident, think again. It turns out that, for a time, Ariza was the strength and conditioning coach for Pacquiao until he was fired on Roach’s advice. Yahoo’s Kevin Iole has the scoop:
“Ariza is just an [expletive],” Roach said. “He never did a thing for Manny. Manny always worked on his own. Alex just stretched him, and that was the extent of his job. I told Manny, ‘You’re paying this guy a lot of money just to stretch you.’ What fighter in the world, what professional athlete, can’t stretch himself?’ And Manny agreed and said, ‘I’m going to go back to the old way.’
“Alex is just a pain in the ass. My cornermen, Buboy [Fernandez], he used to cut off and go up in the ring. He cut Buboy off and would start yelling instructions over me. My cutman, Miguel Diaz, refused to work the corner if Alex was in the corner because he wanted to be the cutman also. If he would have just done his job, he would have been OK, but he wanted to do everyone else’s job.
Now let’s bring things back to the “racist” allegations being thrown Roach’s way in/as a result of this video.
To my understanding (which is somewhat limited on account of my “whiteness”), calling a person of Mexican descent “a Mexican” does not inherently qualify as racist. In the interest of fairness, however, I will say that Roach’s use of the term sure sounded racist, if only because of the context in which he was using it.
Calling someone with Parkinson’s disease “a stuttering prick” and “a faggot” before repeatedly mocking their disease, on the other hand, is a revolting act worthy of a swift and brutal punishment. While my previous suggestion of castration/scaphism might be a little on the extreme side, can we all agree that a good old fashioned kneecapping is in order for both Ariza and Garcia?
Oh, and the worst part? This isn’t even the first time that Rios & Co. have been caught mocking Roach’s Parkinson’s on camera.
You know what, fuck it. Fasten each and every last one of Rios’ crew to a boat and let the insects feast on their insides.
We’re not sure if you’ve heard about this yet but UFC welterweight champion Georges St. Pierre hung onto his belt this past Saturday at UFC 167 with a controversial split decision win over Johny Hendricks and then kinda, sorta announced a retirement, of sorts. The story hasn’t got much attention so first off, we wanted to make sure you knew about that.
In any case, UFC president Dana White is intent on bringing GSP back to fight Hendricks again and, according to a new report from Yahoo! Sports’ Kevin Iole, who is in Macau to cover the Manny Pacquiao/Brandon Rios boxing match this week, “Rush” told “PacMan” trainer Freddie Roach that he’ll never fight again if he doesn’t have him in his corner.
Roach said he has yet to speak to St-Pierre on the telephone, but said the champion texted him.
“He said, ‘I’m not going to fight again unless you are in my corner,'” Roach said. Asked to clarify if that meant on fight night, as well, Roach said, “Absolutely.” To this point, Roach has never been in a UFC fighter’s corner on the night of a fight.
Roach, always eager to promote himself, also said that he “pretty much came up with the game plan” for St. Pierre against Hendricks. So…good job?
We’re not sure if you’ve heard about this yet but UFC welterweight champion Georges St. Pierre hung onto his belt this past Saturday at UFC 167 with a controversial split decision win over Johny Hendricks and then kinda, sorta announced a retirement, of sorts. The story hasn’t got much attention so first off, we wanted to make sure you knew about that.
In any case, UFC president Dana White is intent on bringing GSP back to fight Hendricks again and, according to a new report from Yahoo! Sports’ Kevin Iole, who is in Macau to cover the Manny Pacquiao/Brandon Rios boxing match this week, “Rush” told “PacMan” trainer Freddie Roach that he’ll never fight again if he doesn’t have him in his corner.
Roach said he has yet to speak to St-Pierre on the telephone, but said the champion texted him.
“He said, ‘I’m not going to fight again unless you are in my corner,’” Roach said. Asked to clarify if that meant on fight night, as well, Roach said, “Absolutely.” To this point, Roach has never been in a UFC fighter’s corner on the night of a fight.
Roach, always eager to promote himself, also said that he “pretty much came up with the game plan” for St. Pierre against Hendricks. So…good job?
I wrote elsewhere today that St. Pierre may very well want to go ahead and stay retired. He’s anxious, can’t sleep and suspects that aliens are fucking with him. Plus, he’s almost gotten knocked out two out of his last three fights and has been at it for over a decade.
I don’t know what’s more worrisome — St. Pierre believing that he’s been abducted by extra-terrestrials or him believing that Freddie Roach knows anything about MMA and should therefore be designing his game-plans and cornering him during fights.
When people daydream about the life of a figure of interest in the world of professional sport, they imagine incredible fame and a great deal of money based upon their undeniable greatness in their realm of preference, be it basketball, football, or ma…
When people daydream about the life of a figure of interest in the world of professional sport, they imagine incredible fame and a great deal of money based upon their undeniable greatness in their realm of preference, be it basketball, football, or maybe, a UFC fighter.
Given how the company has grown over the past 10 years (pulling the sport along with them), fighter compensation has become a debated issue.
If you ask Dana White, he says that what his company pays their fighters “smokes” what you see in boxing, pointing his finger at how the numbers drop drastically on a boxing card between the marquee fighters and the rest of those toiling on the undercard.
But does it really?
Obviously, the pay in the sport of MMA and the UFC has grown sharply over the past years, but is it really such a drastic increase that it can not only rival what the sport of boxing pays, but also surpass it?
It seems only fair, when looking to make such a comparison, that we look at the “average” UFC fighters and boxers: men who are on the lower tier, fluctuating between being on the undercard and the lower portions of the main card.
The amounts that the big stars of each sport make cannot honestly be compared. Right now, fighters like Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr., not to mention past fighters like Oscar de La Hoya and Muhammad Ali, all made far much more money than their UFC counterparts.
In addition, there is the sponsorship monies that men like Georges St-Pierre and Jon Jones make—figures that cannot be easily quantified.
So we are left to focus our attentions to those fighters on the rise: men and women looking to make a name for themselves as best they can, sometimes taking fights on very short notice.
After all, the exception is not the norm, and not every UFC fighter on a PPV is getting the big bucks, thus not all UFC fighters should be seen as reaping those kinds of rewards.
It’s not like it used to be in the 1950’s, where a fighter (top name or not) was fighting sometimes as many as 14 times a year, if not more.
Now, the average fighter fights somewhere between four to seven times a year, and if he is in the UFC, he fights fewer times given the sheer size of their roster compared to the amount of available slots on a given PPV or Fox card in a calendar year.
Most who have examined this topic with nothing more than a passing curiosity have seen the figures for the fighters on the bottom of a UFC PPV, noting with alarm at just how much it seems those fighters make.
At UFC 157, Dan Henderson topped out at $250,000 while Yuri Villefort made $6,700, with the $700 being granted to him because his opponent, Nah-Shon Burrell, missed weight and a percentage of his purse was given to Villefort and the athletic commission.
Obviously, there is a great difference in the paydays of both men, but that is to be expected and is seen in all combative sports; Dan Henderson is a known name and a proven commodity, where as Villefort is not, as of now.
The rest of the UFC 157 main card (h/t MMAWeekly) payout is as follows: Ronda Rousey: $90,000 (including a $45,000 win bonus), Liz Carmouche: $12,000, LyotoMachida: $200,000 (no win bonus), Urijah Faber: $100,000 (including a $50,000 win bonus), Ivan Menjivar: $17,000, Court McGee: $40,000 (including $20,000 win bonus), Josh Neer: $16,000, Robbie Lawler: $105,000 (including a $10,000 win bonus) and Josh Koscheck: $78,000.
The undercard for UFC 157 was a bit more steady: four fighters received $8,000 for defeat, with Villefort being the low rung on the totem pole at $6,700.
The total payout for UFC 157 was $1,173,300 and what you can see from looking at all the numbers is that in the big show, winning the bout helps pad a fighter’s pocketbook: $217,000 was paid out in bonus money for victory, not including bonuses for Fight of the Night, Knockout of the Night or Submission of the Night—and of that bonus money, $92,000 went to the undercard.
Contrast this with the disclosed figures for the Manny Pacquiao vs. Timothy Bradley fight card (acquired by Dan Rafael for ESPN) in 2012.
Pacquiao was paid $26,000,000 and Bradley netted $5,000,000. These figures did not include profits paid to each fighter for PPV percentages.
The rest of the fighters on the televised portion of the card were paid as follows: Jorge Arce: $300,000, Jesus Rojas: $25,000, Mike Jones: $105,000, Randall Bailey: $100,000, Guillermo Rigondeaux: $103,000 and Teon Kennedy: $70,000.
Where we begin to see some similarities is in the monies paid to the fighters not on the televised card—the low–rung fighters of the night who are looking for exposure: Mikael Zewski: $8,500, Ryan Grimaldo: $4,500, Wilton Hilario: $6,000, Andy Ruiz: $2,500, Tyler Larson: $1,200, Jesse Hart: $4,000, and Manuel Eastman: $1,200.
The first thing you notice is the massive difference between the big stars in the sports, but after that you see that there were no bonus monies paid for victory for the boxers.
Now, it is unknown just how often these boxers fight in a calendar year, or what kinds of sponsors they have (if any), but Mikael Zewski fought five times in 2012, which is fairly common among boxers trying to claw their way into the big time.
It also gives them more money per year to live on, which is important and might help explain why sources like SimplyHired and eHow.com (based on figures from The United States Bureau of Labor Statistics) estimated that the average boxer makes about $32,000 to $39,000 per year.
This is approximately $11,000 more per year than a fighter like Brock Jardine (who was one of the fighters that earned $8,000 at UFC 157) would make fighting in the UFC three times a year.
Of course, that assumption fails to take into account how much their purses would rise or fall depending on performance. Should a man like Jardine get a bonus for victory, or a Fight of the Night, he is suddenly well above the standard earning of most boxers.
So, when one looks at the numbers, it’s pretty clear that the UFC pays very well for combative sports, at least when it comes to the average fighter who wins. For those who don’t, the UFC is paying the sport standard because they are the sport standard.
How much more should they be paying? It is hard to say, given that a boxing card is the enterprise of more than a few companies that share the debt of creation, where the UFC does most of their work in-house and pays for most of it on their own, relying on FOX to televise it.
But it is clear that at least some increase needs to occur. Not every UFC fighter is going to earn the additional monies that sponsors give to men like GSP, Jon Jones, Frank Mir, Anderson Silva, and so on.
This is especially true when you consider that at one time or another, companies such as Dethrone, One More Round, Rolling Stone and countless others have all been on the UFC’s list of banned sponsors, whereas in the sport of boxing, it seems as if sponsorship is an open door.
Sponsorship reckons highly into a fighter‘s life as a way to supplement their income and feed their families. Without sponsorship monies, the average UFC fighter trying to slug his way into title contention may have to end up taking on additional employment to make ends meet.
In 2012, Dong Hyun Kim spoke about the subject of fighter pay in the UFC and treatment of Asian fighters.
“It’s ultimately very hard to be a UFC fighter. If you go to America, there are a lot of fighters who are barely eeking by financially. I see some fighters who have fights a few days away doing personal training. A lot of that has to with the UFC being too stingy about sponsorships. Also because of UFC’s policies it is really hard to get sponsors for a lot of fighters.”
During 2009, in pieces by MMAPayout.com, MMAJunkie.com and Sports Illustrated, it was noted that not only will a sponsor need to pay the UFC $100,000 just to have the right to sponsor a fighter for an event, but the UFC itself looks to become the central conduit by which sponsorship dollars flow to the fighter.
This gives the UFC greater leverage over contractual stipulations and lessens the role of managers with their fighters.
But is that the business model in practice by the UFC today?
Really, it is ultimately unclear just how the UFC deals with business, especially now that they are in partnership with FOX, but the UFC has always wanted to control their product; it’s one of the main reasons why the company (and thus the sport) has survived as long as it has and grown as large.
In truth, it is hard to fault them for this. One of the big things that has kept boxing from making the fights that needed to be made (and pleasing the public in the long run) has been too many chiefs and not enough Indians, as the saying goes.
In boxing, there are so many parties that need to be appeased in order for a contract to finally be signed that it’s no wonder why so many big fights fall apart.
In the UFC, they make the fights because they have control, and thus the fights come to pass far more often than not.
The importance of this cannot be understated—it’s the primary reason why the sport has grown in the midst of a bad economy.
Granted, some fights the company sanctions don’t really make sense as far as divisional ramifications are concerned—ChaelSonnen vs. Jon Jones is just one example of this—but the sport is still growing.
Yet, in spite of all of this, I still say that UFC fighters are indeed severely underpaid.
I say this because if a fighter is trying to make his way up the ranks—while making do with $8,000 for a fight—then he should be afforded the chance to train full time.
He shouldn’t need to hold down an additional job because the company he works for (the Superbowl of mixed martial arts) thinks that being better than boxing is good enough, because it’s not; it deprives the fans of the right to see a fighter fight at his best—and that isn’t nearly good enough for MMA.
I say this because when it comes to pay for the average fighter they are simply stepping over a bar set so low no one could trip over it.
I say it because the UFC shouldn’t object to being held to a higher standard, they should object to holding themselves to a lower one.
Although the UFC’s flyweight division hasn’t been alive for too long, it is already being thrust front and center, as was the case this weekend when Demetrious Johnson defended his title for the first time against The Ultimate Fighter …
Although the UFC’s flyweight division hasn’t been alive for too long, it is already being thrust front and center, as was the case this weekend when Demetrious Johnson defended his title for the first time against The Ultimate Fighter 13 winner, John Dodson at UFC on Fox 6 in Chicago, Illinois.
While it was a good fight, it also shined a light on how thin the division currently is.
Dodson is probably second only to Nate Quarry in being a fighter from The Ultimate Fighter reality show who was thrust too quickly into a title fight, and while Dodson did much better than Quarry, truth be told he wasn’t ready for such a fight.
But things are always rocking at the beginning, and now that it is clear that the UFC plans on making sure the spotlight shines on all divisions, it is time to begin stocking up on fighters who can make the 125-pound limit.
There are many reasons why, but the most obvious of them all is simply that the deeper a division is, the more compelling it is, because the fans have more choices as to who they identify with and root for.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, speaks to the heart of growth for the UFC in ways we cannot quantify as of yet, because if you look at the history of combative sport, numerous smaller fighters—many coming from countries outside the United States—have managed to captivate the fans.
And when you consider that countries such as Mexico, Japan, Italy and others have seen some of their “smaller” sons turn into giants upon the world stage of boxing, it becomes clear that a diversified and stacked flyweight division could help kick open the doors to those countries and many others.
When you think about some of the bigger names in boxing over the past 50 years, it is surprising to some to learn just how many of them fought and achieved fame in the featherweight division, which is boxing’s equivalent to the flyweight class.
Men such as Juan Manuel Marquez, “Prince” NaseemHamed, Alexis Arguello, Marco Antonio Barrera, Manny Pacquiao and countless others fought at the 126-pound limit and put on some incredible fights while becoming large stars in the process.
Add a few more pounds and you can find names like Floyd Mayweather Jr., Julio Cesar Chavez, Diego Corrales, Erik Morales, Oscar de la Hoya and others.
There is an untold number of MMA fighters from other countries who are waiting to be discovered and one of them could be the next Manny Pacquiao or Juan Manuel Marquez in the UFC.
But they need to know there is a place for them and the only way that will happen is if the flyweight division becomes known as a division where great fights are made by great fighters. In order for that to come to pass, the UFC is going to need to start investing heavily down south.
While most of you reading this were busy watching the UFC last night, boxing fans throughout the country tuned in to watch Pacquiao/Marquez IV. It’s still too early to tell which sport came out on top in terms of the ratings, but regardless, boxing fans were treated to a dramatic sixth round knockout from one of its greatest active fighters. And no, Pacquiao wasn’t the fighter dishing it out.
Juan Manuel Marquez arguably defeated Manny Pacquiao during their third meeting, but came up short on the scorecards, losing a majority decision. This time around, Marquez took no chances, knocking out Pacquiao with an overhand right with only one second left in round six. Pacquiao, who has now lost back-to-back fights for the first time in his career (although the Bradley decision was pretty absurd), has no plans to retire, although we’ll have to wait and see what this loss does to his marketability.
Video awaits after the jump.
While most of you reading this were busy watching the UFC last night, boxing fans throughout the country tuned in to watch Pacquiao/Marquez IV. It’s still too early to tell which sport came out on top in terms of the ratings, but regardless, boxing fans were treated to a dramatic sixth round knockout from one of its greatest active fighters. And no, Pacquiao wasn’t the fighter dishing it out.
Juan Manuel Marquez arguably defeated Manny Pacquiao during their third meeting, but came up short on the scorecards, losing a majority decision. This time around, Marquez took no chances, knocking out Pacquiao with an overhand right with only one second left in round six. Pacquiao, who has now lost back-to-back fights for the first time in his career (although the Bradley decision was pretty absurd), has no plans to retire, although we’ll have to wait and see what this loss does to his marketability.
Video awaits after the jump.
So where does Pacquiao go from here? And were you more entertained by Pacquiao/Marquez IV or UFC on Fox 5? Let us know which sport you think came out on top last night.
The boxing world witnessed the shock of a lifetime Saturday evening as pound-for-pound kingpin Manny Pacquiao was knocked out cold by arch rival Juan Manuel Marquez. Although “Pac-Man” was coming off a loss to Timothy Bradley back in June, the bou…
The boxing world witnessed the shock of a lifetime Saturday evening as pound-for-pound kingpin Manny Pacquiao was knocked out cold by arch rival Juan Manuel Marquez.
Although “Pac-Man” was coming off a loss to Timothy Bradley back in June, the bout was quite controversial and fans and analysts alike expected the Filipino pugilist to bounce back with a definitive win over his rival.
UFC co-owner and CEO Lorenzo Fertitta took to Twitter to express his reaction to the epic upset:
Prior to the June loss to Bradley, Pacquiao hadn’t lost since March 2005 and had won an incredible 15 fights in a row. He is also the first and only boxer to win titles in eight separate divisions.
This led to talk of a superfight with undefeated five-division world champion Floyd Mayweather, Jr. heating up by the day, but neither side could ever come to an agreement on stipulations for the fight, including drug testing and how to split the fight purse.
On the UFC end of things, superfights have not been any easier to come by. A matchup between welterweight champ Georges St-Pierre and middleweight title holder Anderson Silva has been discussed since 2009, but it has yet to come to fruition.
A recent announcement by UFC President Dana White stating that GSP will likely fight Nick Diaz next further cast doubt on a GSP-Silva showdown.
Silva stepping up and fighting UFC light heavyweight champion Jon Jones is not anymore likely, as “The Spider” indicated that he’d want 50 percent of the UFC in order to face “Bones.”
Will the Pacquiao loss make the UFC more diligent in setting up some superfights of their own, or is this just a knee-jerk reaction by Fertitta?
When people daydream about the life of a figure of interest in the world of professional sport, they imagine incredible fame and a great deal of money based upon their undeniable greatness in their realm of preference, be it basketball, football, or maybe, a UFC fighter.
