Four UFC Fights That Would Have Different Outcomes Under ‘Stockton Rules’

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(Smiling in the presence of a woman? Automatic one-point deduction. / Photo via Sherdog)

As sort-of hazily defined by Nick Diaz back in January 2010, the Unified Rules of Stockton is an alternate MMA scoring system in which the winner of the fight is the guy who would have won if the match had continued indefinitely, and the loser is the guy who looks more fucked up afterwards. Under Stockton Rules, only the final round is scored, and holding onto top position without doing damage actually counts for negative points.

The more commonly used ten-point-must system keeps things nice and uniform, and doesn’t require judges to predict the future. But as we’ve seen time and time again, the fighter who has more points on the scorecards isn’t always who you would call the “winner.” So which notable UFC fights would have different results if the scoring system was a little more gangster? Let’s get an obvious one out of the way first…

DAN HENDERSON vs. MAURICIO “SHOGUN” RUA
UFC 139, 11/19/11

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(Smiling in the presence of a woman? Automatic one-point deduction. / Photo via Sherdog)

As sort-of hazily defined by Nick Diaz back in January 2010, the Unified Rules of Stockton is an alternate MMA scoring system in which the winner of the fight is the guy who would have won if the match had continued indefinitely, and the loser is the guy who looks more fucked up afterwards. Under Stockton Rules, only the final round is scored, and holding onto top position without doing damage actually counts for negative points.

The more commonly used ten-point-must system keeps things nice and uniform, and doesn’t require judges to predict the future. But as we’ve seen time and time again, the fighter who has more points on the scorecards isn’t always who you would call the “winner.” So which notable UFC fights would have different results if the scoring system was a little more gangster? Let’s get an obvious one out of the way first…

DAN HENDERSON vs. MAURICIO “SHOGUN” RUA
UFC 139, 11/19/11

According to the scorecards: Henderson wins by unanimous decision, 48-47 across the board.

What really happened: Shogun got thoroughly handled in the first three rounds, but managed to get some momentum back in the fourth, and spent much of the last round in mount, slugging the crap out of a helpless Hendo who clearly had nothing left. Henderson was saved by the bell, and had fortunately built up enough of a lead early in the fight to clinch the judges’ decision.

According to Stockton Rules: Rua would be awarded a pre-emptive TKO victory, based on the likelihood that he would have finished the fight by round seven.

BJ PENN vs. JON FITCH
UFC 127, 2/27/11

According to the scorecards: Penn and Fitch fought to a majority draw, with two out of the three judges scoring it 28-28.

What really happened: Penn vs. Fitch is a perfect showcase of the shortcomings of the ten-point-must system. The Prodigy was awarded the first two rounds 10-9, for edging out Fitch by the narrowest of margins. Then, Fitch comes back in round three and beats the living hell out of Penn. Add it all up, and the fight is…dead even? Maybe by the numbers, but in no way was that fight a “tie.”

According to Stockton Rules: An obvious decision victory for Fitch, who would still be punching BJ Penn right now if time limits were removed.

JOSE ALDO vs. MARK HOMINICK
UFC 129, 4/30/11

According to the scorecards: Aldo by unanimous decision (48–45, 48–46, 49–46).

What really happened: Just like Dan Henderson’s fight against Shogun, Aldo built up an unsurmountable lead in the early going of this five-rounder. But due to a horrible weight cut and a mysterious infection, the featherweight champ’s body failed him in the fifth round, which allowed Hominick to come back and pour on a heap of abuse which nearly finished the fight.

According to Stockton Rules: It’s a draw. Hominick probably would have won if the fight were allowed to continue to additional rounds, but when you add in the “more fucked-up-looking” criteria, Aldo evens the score by making Hominick’s head look like a damn parade float. Raise both of their hands and make them fight again the next day. (Also known as “Stockton Scheduling.”)

ANDERSON SILVA vs. CHAEL SONNEN
UFC 117, 8/7/10
 

According to the scorecards: The fight never went to the judges. Silva won by triangle-armbar submission in round five.

What really happened: Chael Sonnen spent four and a half rounds taking Silva down at will and smashing him from the top. Hell, he was even getting the better of the standup exchanges somehow. And then, as has happened many times before in his pro career, Sonnen fell into the unforgiving crotch of a Brazilian and got choked out.

According to Stockton Rules: Sonnen by split-decision. Look, I know what you’re thinking — how could the guy who tapped out be considered the winner of a fight? Well, you clearly haven’t read the Stockton Rules fine print. As Nick Diaz explains at the 10:50 mark of his interview with Ariel, “I say, even if you tapped the guy out and you got your ass beat, you still got your ass beat, you know what I mean?”

Or, as Sonnen himself put it later, “In what parallel universe can you punch a man 300 times, he wraps his legs around your head for eight seconds and they declare him the winner? On the streets of West Linn, Oregon, if you lay on your back with your legs wrapped around a man’s head for eight seconds, that does not make you a winner. That makes…not a winner.” The man’s got a point — and it’s pretty obvious that Chael Sonnen is a Stocktonite at heart.

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UFC News: Chael Sonnen and Ring Girl Arianny Celeste Engage in Twitter War

The fighter everyone loves to hate, UFC middleweight contender Chael Sonnen, seems to have begun a new feud, and this time it is not with a Black House/Brazilian fighter.  This time, Sonnen’s unlikely adversary comes in the form of a ring girl: hu…

The fighter everyone loves to hate, UFC middleweight contender Chael Sonnen, seems to have begun a new feud, and this time it is not with a Black House/Brazilian fighter. 

This time, Sonnen’s unlikely adversary comes in the form of a ring girl: huge fan favorite Arianny Celeste.

The issue started last week, when Fighters Only asked Sonnen who he thought should win the title of Ring Girl of the Year at the World MMA Awards, which the always outspoken Sonnen is hosting.

“We only had one and that was Chandella [Powell]. The other was the IQ card girl. Arianny [Celeste] kind of walks around and holds up her latest test score,” Sonnen said.

“One time when there was a title fight, she got all the way up to five and we were very proud of her,” taking another shot at the UFC’s arguably most popular ring girl.

Arianny originally responded on Twitter, though she deleted her tweet shortly afterward (credit Bloody Elbow for finding the tweet).

“Hey what’s ur name.. after @spideranderson kicks your ass..u won’t even be able to count to 5!! Get ready to kiss brazils ass!”

Sonnen, never one to take an insult lying down, fired back.

“Seems easy to wear a bikini and seems easy to walk in a circle, but try walking in a circle while wearing a bikini. Talented girl!”

The MMA World Awards, presented by Fighters Only magazine, takes place Nov. 30 at The Pearl at the Palms Casino Resort in Las Vegas.

Fans now have to be wondering what will transpire if Celeste does win the award and Sonnen has to present it to her.

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MMA: The 15 Biggest Pretenders in the UFC

There are many great fighters in the UFC today. What separates those that are great and those that are just good, though, is winning UFC gold. Many fighters have had a chance to win a UFC title. Some have had multiple chances. But getting clo…

There are many great fighters in the UFC today. 

What separates those that are great and those that are just good, though, is winning UFC gold. Many fighters have had a chance to win a UFC title. Some have had multiple chances. 

But getting close to a title just doesn’t cut it. 

Here’s a look at current UFC fighters who may never have UFC gold. 

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UFC: Dan Henderson and 10 Fighters Perfect for Black Friday Shopping

If you’re like most Americans, the day after Thanksgiving provides some of the most ruthless shopping one can endure in a lifetime.Most people grab friends or force their children to wake up and help grab all the deals they can. Shopping alone on Black…

If you’re like most Americans, the day after Thanksgiving provides some of the most ruthless shopping one can endure in a lifetime.

Most people grab friends or force their children to wake up and help grab all the deals they can. Shopping alone on Black Friday is pretty much consumer suicide.

With the recent reports (via Politico.com) coming out about people getting more and more violent this year (pepper spray? Really?!), it’s time we as fans request our favorite fighters to take off training for next year’s Black Friday in order to protect ourselves.

Who would you bring? Would you go for someone intimidating, the smartest fighter you could find, or maybe recruit one of the bantamweights and utilize their quick in-and-out movement?

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Chael Sonnen Talks MMA Awards, Jon Jones, Anderson Silva and Arianny Celeste

Chael Sonnen is set to put his oratory skills to the test as he gears up to host the forthcoming Only Fighters World MMA Awards at The Pearl at the Palms Casino Resort in Las Vegas, Nev. Speaking to the Las Vegas Weekly, Sonnen, ever the master rhetori…

Chael Sonnen is set to put his oratory skills to the test as he gears up to host the forthcoming Only Fighters World MMA Awards at The Pearl at the Palms Casino Resort in Las Vegas, Nev.

Speaking to the Las Vegas Weekly, Sonnen, ever the master rhetorician, spoke candidly about the awards, Jon Jones, Anderson Silva and UFC ring girl Arianny Celeste.

Most people would think that being the star attraction and with an audience to lap up his every word would play to Sonnen’s strengths—his loquacious magniloquence.

In this case, they’d be wrong.

However, he did have a few choice words for some of the aforementioned.

I’ll get back to that later.

This is what Sonnen had to say about the 2011 Fighters Only World MMA Awards and why he was chosen to host the ceremony:

“I like the show. I like the format. I think it’s great for the industry and great to get recognition for the sport as a whole.” […]

“They hired me because I’ve got personality and attitude. I’m not up there to do stand-up. I’m just up there to award people and recognize them. I’m not going into this to be a comedian; I’m going into this to be Chael Sonnen and hand out awards.

“It’s not my night, and I’m not there to bring drama. People have worked hard and they deserve to be recognized, and I’m not going to interject myself.”

Sonnen even took time out to give “The Axe Murderer” an honorary mention:

“Everybody is welcome to come, from the real fighters to the fake fighters, which means even Wanderlei Silva should press his finest suit and limp on down to the Palms on Nov. 30.”

Nonetheless, the ex-realtor had nothing but praise for the young phenom Jon “Bones” Jones:

“I think the stuff Jon Jones has done as a fighter and the ways that he’s done it have been a big deal.”

Now, everyone knows that Sonnen loves a piece of Anderson Silva; it brings out the best in him—or is that worst?

Be that as it may, since he fought and lost to “The Spider” at UFC 117, Sonnen has been nothing but a thorn in Silva’s side—using every opportunity to attempt to rile and provoke the UFC middleweight champion into a rematch. (At this moment in time, Silva has accepted the challenge, but on the condition that the fight takes place in Brazil).

That continued after Sonnen upended former Marine Brian Stann at UFC 136, when he proceeded to call out Silva with the now famous words: “Anderson Silva, you absolutely suck!”

Followed by his proposed fight stipulations: “If I beat you, you leave the Middleweight division. If you beat me, I’ll leave the UFC forever.”

Well, when asked whether he would really retire from the UFC if he lost in a future matchup with Silva, this is what he had to say and then some:

“Well, of course it was true. I meant every word of it. Anderson says he wants to get rid of me, and this is his chance. I knew Anderson Silva was a coward. I’m privy to what goes on behind the scenes. I’ve watched him duck and dodge and choose his opponents. He’s as phony as Mike Tyson was.

“But in a million years, I never thought he would publicly let it be known. I thought if I called him out in the ring and put everything on the line that he would stand up and give me a thumbs up or a nod or he’d send one of his handlers in the back to say he accepted my challenge.

“In a million years, I never thought he would cower publicly. That’s not his culture. What an insult to the entire heritage of the Brazilian people that Anderson did not accept a challenge. That is not the Brazilian way. I was shocked.

“I was shocked he sat there and covered his mouth like a little fancy boy instead of standing up and saying, ‘Let’s do this.'”

So far we’ve seen the good, the bad and the ugly of Sonnen. Now it’s time for his humorous side.

Sonnen’s thoughts when asked which girl he’d be rooting for in the Ring Girl of the Year category:

“We only had one and that was Chandella [Powell]. The other was the IQ card girl. Arianny [Celeste] kind of walks around and holds up her latest test score. One time when there was a title fight, she got all the way up to five and we were very proud of her.”

Just for that comment on Arianny Celeste alone, Sonnen deserves an Oscar. It’s comes straight out of the Sonnen school of put-downs—it’s a classic.

And there you have it, MMA’s own nonpareil trash-talking, mudslinging and king of smack, gets to host the 2011 Fighters Only World MMA Awards…Hollywood style.

More information on the awards ceremony and nominees can be found here.

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MMA Black Friday: 7 Things That Money Can’t Buy


(A PSP, a Marmaduke book, and fistful of dollars… Man, this cat really knows how to get down!)

By Jason Moles

While our wives and girlfriends are busy maxing out our credit cards in hopes of finding the perfect gift for everyone she knows, we should be reminded that money can’t buy everything — especially in the world of mixed martial arts. Follow us after the jump to discover the irony of the MMA Black Friday. I promise it will be better than the turkey sandwich and leftover pumpkin pie you’ll have for lunch.

1.) Resurrection

In June, Cheick Kongo did what no man has done since the Messiah some 2,000+ years ago — he defeated death. Alright, so maybe I’ve had a few too many turkey day cocktails and that’s not exactly how it went down, but you get the jist. Kongo was knocked unconscious not once but twice in his fight against fellow heavyweight Pat Barry and he still managed to win the fight! By KO nonetheless. No amount of Earthly money could ever buy a second (or third) chance to live again. If it were that easy, Steve Jobs would’ve made certain you increase your credit limit.


(A PSP, a Marmaduke book, and fistful of dollars… Man, this cat really knows how to get down!)

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1.) Resurrection

In June, Cheick Kongo did what no man has done since the Messiah some 2,000+ years ago — he defeated death. Alright, so maybe I’ve had a few too many turkey day cocktails and that’s not exactly how it went down, but you get the jist. Kongo was knocked unconscious not once but twice in his fight against fellow heavyweight Pat Barry and he still managed to win the fight! By KO nonetheless. No amount of Earthly money could ever buy a second (or third) chance to live again. If it were that easy, Steve Jobs would’ve made certain you increase your credit limit.

2.) The Joy Experienced Watching Anderson Silva in 2011

From revolutionizing the MMA landscape with a kick the way the Miami Dolphins did with a Wildcat Offense a few years ago to several strangely fascinating videos, Anderson Silva has provided more entertainment than a Chael Sonnen Says F*ck Canada or at Least This Reporter Who Lives There” href=”http://www.cagepotato.com/video-chael-sonnen-says-fck-canada-or-at-least-this-reporter-who-lives-there/” target=”_blank”>Chael Sonnen interview. These are memories that will last a lifetime, or three if you’re Cheick Kongo.

3.) A Clue

Man what I wouldn’t give to slap that stupid look off his face. This guy is more confused than a homeless man on house arrest. If money could by a clue, we’d have to take up another donation. It’s probably best we don’t, though – your better half has been gone quite awhile now.

4.) The Fight You Most Want To See

Fans want Dana White to make two fights happen pronto: Jon Jones vs. Rashad Evans and Chael Sonnen vs. Anderson Silva. Anyone who tells you differently is lying. It’s no wonder why there’s so much clamoring to see these fighters settle their differences in the Octagon. Take Sonnen for instance, he talked his way into our hearts, gave the pound-for-pound king the beating of his life in route to getting subbed in the final round, and has ceased his verbal attack on “The Spider” going as far as to challenge him to a ‘Loser Leaves Town’ match. There is honest hatred in the Oregonian’s heart that we must see unleashed again — if only to find out how big a role Silva’s injured ribs played.


As for ‘Suga’ and ‘Bones’, the future PPV tagline says it all: Good Friends, Better Enemies. Their genuine dislike for one another only adds fuel to the fire. We all know the story of training partners so close one would fake a hand injury to avoid fighting the other to a young pup stealing all the spotlight while running his mouth about what when on during a sparring session at Jackson’s. Did I mention they had and nearly threw down at a nightclub?

5.) A Title Shot

Jon Fitch has not lost a fight since Georges St. Pierre defeated him for the UFC welterweight championship back in 2008. In that time, Kenny Florian and Lyoto Machida have been given several opportunities to fight for gold. So why not Fitch? Is he too boring? Is it because he doesn’t have a fancy TV show on ESPN or drink his own pee? Yeah, we’re not sure either. Since money is useless when attempting to get a title shot, we came up with a few ways Fitch might get another crack anyway.

6.) Forgiveness

You can’t think about Paul Daley sucker punching Josh Koscheck and subsequently being fired without hearing Don Henley’s ‘The Heart of the Matter‘ in your head. This is the classic ‘from the penthouse to the outhouse’ scenario; He went from fighting in the UFC in May 2010 to fighting in Impact FC two months later. Despite his apology to Kos, the crestfallen Daley remained focused on working his way back in Dana’s good graces fighting five times this year. Zuffa owned Strikeforce appears to have let “Semtex” wander off on his own after dropping two straight. Tack on his history of missing weight and you’ll see that this is one ‘F’ word you won’t here White say.

7.) The Keys to New York

If money could by Zuffa keys to the state of New York, they would have filled MSG twice already. Remember, they even tried to buy their way in as recent as this past summer. Remember folks, money — it isn’t everything.